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BALLS After Dark. Ep 13 "I dug a hole, Dad."

Posted 12 hours ago into Music by John Birmingham

The music episode is live: ... In which Beeso and the Doc talk 80s hiphop, 90s electronica and noughties disco-grunge, great Amiga games music, off-label Stones ripoffs, how sausages are made, the Four Kinsman's version of Cop Killa, Fucking Off For Ten Years Album Syndrome, and Teenage Protracker Fury.

Warning, there is vaseline and the Doc sings.

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Darth Greybeard is gonna tell you...

Posted 10 hours ago
Podcasts are like sausages. It is better not to see them being made.

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Rhino puts forth...

Posted 4 hours ago
Listening to the podcast. If this took place in the US Beeso and Doc would be castrated and crucified for cultural appropriation and racism for having the temerity to discuss Hip Hop.
RACISTS.

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Cartoon Hunter S Thompson discusses cartoon Hells Angels with Cartoon Studs Terkel

Posted 18 hours ago by John Birmingham

PBS has done a bunch of these babies, providing cartoon artwork for old audio tapes. In this one Studs Terkel, chronicler extraordinaire of The Good War, discusses the Hells Angels and the beast within in us all, with Dr Hunter S Thompson. The good doctor's rapid fire mumbling takes a few moments to get used to, but the final result is compelling. He has something prescient things to say about what happens to people when you make them obsolete outcasts.

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Barnesm would have you know...

Posted 15 hours ago
Cool, the art reminded me of Ralph Steadman's work, I don't know if that's because they are similar or his work is inextricably linked to Hunter S Thompson for me.

damian swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted 9 hours ago
Bit of both I'd imagine

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NBlob mutters...

Posted 9 hours ago
Hard to know who I'm more fond of, Studs or the Sainted Hunter S. Nice one JB, I'll certainly be checking out the rest.

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Rhino would have you know...

Posted 4 hours ago
Hell's Angels was my early teen-aged intro to HST. The beginning of a lifetime love affair.
That was great stuff ... would love to hear more interviews featuring HST.

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The Sea Shepherds hunt down a pirate trawler

Posted 22 hours ago into Awesome by John Birmingham

I enjoyed this long piece from The New York Times about the Sea Sherpherds hunting a rogue fishing trawler through some of the worst seas in the world. They chased this thing over thousands of nautical miles in the Southern Oceans, eventually driving it under the waves.

From the Times:

On its second day of prowling for the Thunder last December, the Barker spotted its prey. Appearing first as a red blip on an otherwise barren radar monitor, the vessel was moving slowly, at 6 knots, and heading against the tide of floating icebergs, some the size of tall buildings.

Captain Hammarstedt sailed within 400 feet of the Thunder before reaching for a reference binder — an Interpol “mug shots” guide featuring silhouettes of illegal fishing vessels. He radioed the Thunder’s officers, most of them Spaniards or Chileans. Speaking through a translator, he warned that the Thunder was banned from fishing in those waters and would be stopped.

The Thunder responded: “No, no, no. Negative, negative. You have no authority to arrest this vessel. You have no authority to arrest this vessel. We are going to continue sailing, we are going to continue sailing but you have no authority to arrest this ship, over.”

“We do have authority,” the Bob Barker said. “We have reported your location to Interpol and to the Australian police.”

The poachers replied, “O.K., O.K., you can send our location, but you can’t board this ship, you can’t come in or arrest us.”

The Thunder’s crew, which had been working on its aft deck, abruptly disappeared inside. The ship (a trawler that had been converted to do other types of deep-sea fishing) soon doubled its speed and made a run for it, the Barker close behind. They were in a stretch of Antarctic sea called the Banzare Bank, known among mariners as “The Shadowlands” because it is among the planet’s most remote and inhospitable waters, nearly a two-week journey to the nearest major port.

On that first night of the chase, Dec. 17, Captain Hammarstedt made a note in his ship’s log: “Bob Barker will maintain hot pursuit and report on the F/V Thunder’s position to Interpol.”

The Barker’s Captain Hammarstedt, 30, a baby-faced Swede, was respected by his crew for his seafaring skills and calm under fire. A decade of antiwhaling work had exposed him to a fair share of angry storms and violent confrontations. Still, he worried as he prepared to follow the Thunder into a huge low-pressure zone.

As the wider, heavier Thunder held firm over the next two days in the storm, the Bob Barker swayed back and forth, listing 40 degrees as it was battered by 50-foot waves. Below deck, fuel sloshed in the Barker’s tanks, splashing through ceiling crevices and filling the ship with diesel fumes. In the galley, a plastic drum tethered to the wall broke free, coating the floor in vegetable oil that bled into the cabins below. Half the crew was seasick. “It was like working on an elevator that suddenly dropped and climbed six stories every 10 seconds,” Captain Hammarstedt recalled.

Emerging on the other side of the storm, the ships settled into several days of radio silence. As much a battle of wills, this endurance race was also a test of fuel capacities. While the Barker never left the Thunder’s trail, the Sam Simon split off several times to resupply. Each time the two vessels moved close enough to connect a refuel hose, the Thunder turned 180 degrees and sped toward them, wedging between them to disrupt the effort.

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It'll take a while to read. But if you like rip roaring sea tales, like I do, it's a good option for lunchtime, or the train ride home this arvo. The NYT's website has some cool embedded video too.

It's all here.

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NBlob swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted 21 hours ago
Hmm, conflicted. A: I'm glad Someone is out in the ugly Southern ocean chasing Toothfish Poachers. B: I'm disappointed it isn't deemed sufficiently important for National Governments to spend actual real $ to do it. C: Sea Sheopard are the biggest bunch of self-appointed amateur vigilante asshats south of the Tex/Mex border. They routinely over-simplify extremely complicated issues. They are driven by intuition not science. They are more interested in publicity than ecology. They are the Eco-equivalent of a wealthy wanker in his beamer cursing out the bus full of proles.

damian would have you know...

Posted 20 hours ago
While I pretty much agree with your points about Sea Shepherd (other than the last one), I'd argue those are not unambiguously negative things and in fact are at the crux between being pure and being effective. Don't have time to do the topic justice right now though.
I've been a fan for years, in a sense I resemble those remarks :)

NBlob is gonna tell you...

Posted 19 hours ago
Anti sea-Shepard lit is very very interesting. X% Anti-Green Y% Pro-whaling Z% I didn't buy into the cult of Paul Watson. I have a different take. He's playing Big Boy's Games in very serious waters. Without due regard for the people & situation. He (allegedly) acts as an admiral, in the turtleneck of a volunteer, democratic, process. The loss of the Andy Gil was unacceptable & not entirely the Japanese fault. There's a very good reason one uses tugs when in proximity.

damian would have you know...

Posted 12 hours ago
I really agree. Still, they are out there doing stuff proper governments should be doing. The bad stuff isn't unambiguously bad, though I accept some things are serious, and there's some very good stuff.
Look any ship-to-ship dealing in the Southern Ocean is feakishly insane. But the whalers shouldn't be there. That doesn't justify everything you might try doing to stop them, but I'm prepared give the Sea Shepherds a lot of benefit of the doubt.

NBlob swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted 11 hours ago

Pick an issue that you feel Very strongly about. Whaling, deforestation, Coal Seam Gas, whatever. Just how much "unorthodox" action would you consider appropriate? Would you implement a Shoot-To-Kill policy to protect the last 4 Northern White Rhino from Ivory poachers?

Even if the volunteers are more than willing to lay down their lives for the whales, (I believe) the leaders of that organisation bear a responsibility to not put them into a situation where that is an option.

Rumours circulate that the Andy Gil was short fuelled and provisioned, as if she was never expected to make it back. Other rumours suggest she had significant cracking in 2 bulkheads documented before her last voyage. She wasn't built to last, she was built for fast. Would it be unreasonable to conclude she was always meant to be run down by the Nishan Maru? Remarkable coincidence they had 3 camera coverage of the incident. If it ever comes out that this was the plan Cap'n Paul should be fkn keelhauled for putting crew in that position.

Just my humble opinion.


damian would have you know...

Posted 9 hours ago
Knowing something of Watson's history, you certainly can't put that past him. I'd doubt it was a concrete plan from the outset, but certainly a possible tactical contingency or something. The captain blamed Watson (and the namesake owner sued him) for not salvaging it (he'd have had to break off the chase, after all).

Look we're all on a roller coaster maintained by madmen. It's extraordinary we've avoided fiery oblivion for so long. The changes to ocean temperature and acidity in coming decades will most likely be a greater challenge to all marine life than mechanised predation. I don't have kids, and sometimes feel sorry for those who do for much these reasons.

I'm often struck by the contrast between the whaling crew on the ship that held a couple of Sea Shepherd boarders in detention for several weeks a few years back now - who thought they could show the protesters how they were normal, gentle people just doing their work and that this would change their minds - with an old bugger at the Taiji dolphin drive who was bothered enough by some westerner filming to spend hours just shouting incomprehensibly at him, taking photos of the cameraman himself. There are multiple collisions of world views, nothing is homogenous, everyone's perspective has to be evaluated on its own merits.

So while I think of Watson as morally disconnected and chaotic, I still like the organisation he started and many of the people making it work. That Hammerstedt chap seems pretty grounded (not the first time the name has come up in a pretty darn impressive context). He's still pretty young... what kind of leader do you think he'll make when he's Watson's age?

Rhino reckons...

Posted 6 hours ago
NBob, " Would you implement a Shoot-To-Kill policy to protect the last 4 Northern White Rhino from Ivory poachers?"

Now you are talking. All Rhino lives matter.

Sweet Jane Says puts forth...

Posted 3 hours ago
It should be shoot to kill any hunter in order to protect a species that drops below a healthy population for its natural environment. We have 7 billion people on this planet. Nature has grown weary of humanity.

J.

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Barnesm reckons...

Posted 21 hours ago

The story is a great example of long form journalism which I feared was disappearing, glad to see it in the NYT and not some blog. (no offence JB). Really gripping read. Makes me missrecall the Mencken quote "Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag and begin hunting pirates". (sic)

I wonder about some of the details "In March, the Thunder was stripped of its registration by Nigeria and became officially stateless, which meant that marine authorities from any country could board and arrest its crew" is this true? or is it more a its the law since who ever can enforce it makes the law.

Have to ask why anyone would pay money for Chilean sea bass when it is possibly sourced by the likes of ships like the Thunder.

NBlob swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted 20 hours ago
A: because people don't care. They still believe the ocean is some magic puddin of bottomless resource. B: because it is often labelled as other than CSB.

Barnesm reckons...

Posted 19 hours ago
Surely the $$$ price tag must prompt questions about its origin?

NBlob reckons...

Posted 9 hours ago
Deep long lining is actually a pretty cheap way to fish, the product is a firm white flesh, low in oil, high recovery rate. Exactly what people want. It's unfortunate for the poor old Patagonian tooth fish that they are slow growing, late maturing and live in (relatively) easily found & targeted shoals. If they were from the North Atlantic they'd have been fished to extinction 40 years ago.

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GhostSwirv puts forth...

Posted 21 hours ago

Gripping read JB, just with your grab from the article - no time right now to get into the full story, will do later, but I was struck by the visceral feel of the environment the ships were in ... Shadowlands with icebergs as big as tall buildings.

Would make a great film ... like a cross between

GhostSwirv would have you know...

Posted 20 hours ago

Ummm, don't know what happened there ... however the story of the two ships stalking each other reads like a cross between The Perfect Storm and The Bedford Incident.

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Sweet Jane Says puts forth...

Posted 21 hours ago
The Sea Shepherds broke from Greenpeace to take a more active and involved approach to environmentalism. The Shepherds are what Green Peace once was. I cheer for them during each of their dangerous voyages. They are true rainbow warriors and I'm glad their efforts are made public on the nature channels and in print. It would strengthen the group if more people were like Bob Barker and donated to the cause of conservation. Their names would truly live-on for the causes that these mostly young crews undertake.

J.

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Halwes asserts...

Posted 19 hours ago
I've spent many years on the water in many locations around Australia and I reckon the ocean might be nearly ratshit. The fish volumes due to factory ships and trawling are way down where I am. You can get a feed still but it's much harder than 20 years ago. An analysis of the beach sand in this country must surely show high levels of plastic. The gulf flow brings us tonnes of plastic and ghost nets from Asia every year. The beaches at Cape Arnhem are covered with plastic bottles with Asian writing on them, millions of old thongs and medical waste. If you then take into account the acidification projections I think we've stuffed it.

Bangar mutters...

Posted 16 hours ago
I think you'll find Sea Sick paints grim picture. Good news everybody, we are alright and kids probably as well after us. At some point soon there after there will be no recovery.
http://alannamitchell.com/books/

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yankeedog swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted 18 hours ago
Am liking the dazzle camo on the Barker. Shades of WWII corvette there.

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Rhino swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted 4 hours ago
I'm surprised someone hasn't "disappeared" them at sea yet.

Sweet Jane Says mumbles...

Posted 2 hours ago
Wiki-up The Rainbow Warrior in New Zealand. It caused a global backlash against France and mourning around the world for the sleeping victims. When people disappear they sometimes continue to exist as martyrs. Environmentalists will quickly need to choose the path of the revolutionary or insurgent in the next two decades.

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Who are these racist dicks and why are they booing Adam Goodes?

Posted Wednesday by John Birmingham

I hadn't really followed the Adam Goodes saga, or crisis, or full-blown racist dipshit kerfuffle, whatever you want to call it, until yesterday. But I finally got caught up. And now I feel sort of existentially sick, as though my soul has been dipped into a simmering cauldron of Eddie Maguire’s anal leakage.

Apologies to overseas readers who have no idea what I'm talking about. Here is the shareware lite version. Adam Goodes is a football player. He runs on for the Sydney Swans In the Australian Football League. He has twice won the Brownlow Medal, awarded each year to the player judged Best and Fairest in the national competition. Adam Goodes is an aborigine. For the last year, whenever he has stepped onto the ground outside of Sydney the fans of opposing teams have booed him. Why? Oh, they have a lot of bullshit reasons (his playing style, some dancing thing), but trust me, we are in this giant boiling cauldron of arse juice because Adam Goodes is a black man.

So toxic has this racist abuse become that the racists have been forced to come up with excuses for it. You know things are bad when racists feel obliged to find an excuse to be racists. It means their racism has gone viral and now people are asking questions.

It is possible that Goodes may not play this weekend, indeed that he may retire from the game completely without ever setting foot on the field again, because of the toll placed, not on him, but on his teammates. Did I mention that Adam Goodes was also chosen as Australian of the Year? Sorry, I must have forgotten that, the same way that all of the bigots who have piled onto him keep forgetting that it's not about ethics in gaming journalism (thanks Preston Towers) it's about them being bigots.

The crisis, and it is a crisis, has reached the point where even the slow-moving bureaucratic muntosaurs running the AFL have been forced to act. They sat down for crisis talks this week and decided they would really like it if the tens of thousands of racist tools who keep paying good money at the turnstiles would keep paying good money at the turnstiles but leave the public expression of their deepest and most sincerely felt bigotries at the gate. But please, bring your money. To encourage tens of thousands of racists to keep bringing the money, but not their racism, the AFL is going to do… something. Or… Maybe…Er…

I'm not an AFL fan. But a long time ago I did have a Victorian friend who followed North Melbourne and so I followed them for a while too, during the era of Malcolm Blight and the Krakouer brothers. I have a residual fondness for the game, but not growing up in Melbourne means I was not baptised into the cult. That residual fondness, however, is now tainted by the sour taste of arse jus. A vintage reduction brewed up, not just in the stands at Sydney's away games, but in the columns of the News Ltd press, where such fine, upstanding Australians as Mr Andrew Bolt have weighed into the matter – to criticise Goodes.

I know. I too was shocked.

Is there a solution to this? I can only think of one. Every time it happens, every AFL player with a shred of human decency should refuse to keeping play. Just stop, fold their arms and stare at the crowd. That won't happen of course. But it would be a great thing if it did – for the game and for the country, both of which have long benefitted from the contrubitions of indigenous players like Adam Goodes and the Krakouer brothers.

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DrWittyKnitter is gonna tell you...

Posted Wednesday
Agree that the other players, both sides, should just stop and stare. And apparently this ridiculous, childish, pathetic behaviour is spreading across the Tasman.

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Barnesm mutters...

Posted Wednesday

I appreciated you giving me a concise backgrounder on this, like you have only heard this peripherally. Suprising I know given I live in Melbourne.

My only response is WTF! I knew there were racist dipshits out there, I was at the anti reclaim Asutralia rally on Saturday but I didn't realize that it was so blatantly tolerated in a crowd that attends AFL matches.

I am sorry I was almost tempted to read Bolt after your mention of "to criticise Goodes" cause ..HOW? but I assume this explains some of the tweets I have seen about how is imaginarily throwing a spear (and I am still not sure that's not a spear-thrower racist dog whistle) as terrifying as racism.


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Lulu puts forth...

Posted Wednesday
I've had a soft spot for Adam Goodes ever since he won his first Brownlow medal - and took his mother as his date to the dinner.

I don't know how much the AFL CEO speaking out will mean. I think there should be a joint statement from *all* the club presidents and *all* the club captains that this is not on. If there isn't, I'll be disappointed - and a bit suspicious of why not.

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Surtac mumbles...

Posted Wednesday

Sad. Sad indeed. Just goes to show how f*cking hypocritical we can be as a so-called 'nation'.

II didn't grow up in Melbourne but I did grow up in Hobart, so I too was raised on AFL rather than thugby. I knew of the Krakouer brothers and the fact that they were Aboriginal, but my only reaction was 'Sh*t they're good - why aren't they on my team?'.

I really think we've gone backwards as a country recently and I'm not sure why. It's easy to blame Howard and Abbott for their wedge politics but I don't think that's the whole explanation. I don't remember the Ella brothers (in rugby Union) having to deal with the sh*t being dealt to Adam Goodes right now. So what else has changed here?

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Halwes would have you know...

Posted Wednesday
I don't follow AFL but I've got a lot of time for Adam Goodes. He's done some great work and always carries himself with dignity. Are you sure that this is true racism though and not just a wind up? Wouldn't it only be racism if the fans were abusing black members of their own teams? I've seen those AFL crowds on TV and they look pretty feral and dumb at times. They'll do and say anything to put the opposing players off their game. The press have fed this quite a bit as Goodes doing a "war dance" intimating that we are at war with each other which sells newspapers. As soon as he did his dance the fans knew that they were getting to him and they wont stop now unless something happens to diffuse the situation. The other thing that bothered me is that, in a traditional dance the spear gets raised but it doesn't ever get thrown unless the situation is dire and someone needs to be killed. In the clips I saw Adam didn't throw the spear but the bloke on the weekend flicked them at people all over the ground. In my traditional education, if you throw the spear, real or not, then it doesn't stop until there has been a lot of bloodshed. The young bloke on the weekend may or may not have known this. We are starting to get way too polarised in this country. Have a think about where this ends up for Australia. As all races continue to be bred out of existence into the great melting pot of the future, isn't it time that we all just had a think about our shared heritage out of Africa and realised that racism is a big load of bullshit? I'm not sure your average AFL supporter or player would easily grasp the concept though.

Therbs would have you know...

Posted Wednesday
The nuances of any dance will be missed by these racist arsehats. What motions the players make when doing a dance in support of Goodes is irrelevant. Totally fucking irrelevant.

insomniac is gonna tell you...

Posted Wednesday
No doubt the people complaining about the dance will be the same people who complain about the glorious All Blacks' haka.

Halwes is gonna tell you...

Posted 24 hours ago
I'm not sure that you are right Therbs. Go up to a stranger and make a pretend gun with your hand. Look them in the eye and pull the imaginary trigger. You will get a reaction. It's the same with an imaginary spear I reckon. The actual dance is irrelevent and wouldn't even get a headline if the final act wasn't a spear.

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Spanner has opinions thus...

Posted Wednesday
I'm about to gen on a plane so a longer and more nuanced post may come later. 2 points:
1 Preston Towers nailed it.
2 Racists Fuck em.

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insomniac swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted Wednesday
It appears that the booing started in earnest after he called out that teenage girl for calling him an ape. Perhaps the dipshits didn't realise he was Aboriginal up until he pointed it out. I also agree that play should stop if it happens, although I also see that there are reports that he is contemplating retirement, which would be sad.

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Murphy_of_Missouri mumbles...

Posted Wednesday
Selector switch from safe to semi.
Standing ready.

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Barnesm reckons...

Posted Wednesday
The Preston Powers piece you link to really does dismantle the whole 'its not a racist thing argument' fantastic stuff.

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Darth Greybeard would have you know...

Posted Wednesday
My warning to Ms Clumsy on the Twits yesterday stands. "Cue flood of abuse because you don't understand that it's all about ethics in footballism." Probably much the same bag of dicks. And if you want something genuinely stomach-turning (but why would you?) check the comments to @CoralieAlison yesterday. Sure, many of them seem to have a mental age of 12 and zero empathy but I suspect they're adults and voters.

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HAVOCK21 has opinions thus...

Posted Wednesday
is booing racist? Cos I know a fkn lot of AFL players that get booed.
I think it got taken past the point of being " ME", I am who I am and now its entered the arsehat category. Thats him IMHO. He's a hgreat bloke, just now behaving like a tard.
OH and yes, there are some out there being fknb muppets too. I'm not for one minute saying there is not. But he's being a first order dick! in my opinion.
And thats a fkn big brush you are wielding there JB!

John Birmingham would have you know...

Posted Wednesday
Yeah, well its being wielded by thirty to forty thousand people every weekend he plays away from Sydney. It has to be a big brush.

Therbs has opinions thus...

Posted Wednesday
Hav, it started after he called out that girl for racism. He was right. If that's acting like a "tard" then I hope it continues. Why don't people boo that dirty grub Stevie J? He performs like a complete spoilt brat, niggles etc and cops nowt. Difference is skin. Goodes doesn't promote any of this, it's just people who are inherently racist using other labels to mask it. It's a fucking disgrace. And when did Goodes "act like a tard"? Come on, explain it in terms of not using Brereton style mythical bullshit to explain racial villification.

HAVOCK21 is gonna tell you...

Posted Wednesday
Therbs, its the continuation of his antics, there is a point in my view where continuing to carry out his Dance is not for any other purpose than to say FK YOU to the crowd.
Now everybody..I mean everybody is entitled to do both of those things, but if you continue to do it, the crowd will at some point in my view determine that you are a dick, that this is not to forward the cause and you are effectively just behaving badly. That's where this is now in my view, sure there will be an element in the crowd, we've said that, but to tag such a vast number of AFL supporters as racists is very daft, bordering on culpable for persons who have such vast media presence. I'm not alone, there are plenty of high profile people that I'm sure a lot would call " More Balanced" than me, pushing a similar theme.
I think that Adam's intent was right, the continuation was wrong...... and I'd go further to say that media presenters have managed to give this way to much air and overall its now hurt the cause for Adam.
I don't think less of him for what he originally did at all, I think less of him for the continuation, and that's as a person. Not as an Aboriginal, or Aboriginal player or Brownlow medallist or Australian of the year. All accolades for which he will and rightfully should be remembered and revered for, just having gone too far.
And that's my view. PS. Therbs, I was not trying to you Brereton style MBS, I've not heard his view, just a few snippets, like Ross Greenwood this morning.

insomniac ducks in to say...

Posted Wednesday
I'm pretty sure Goodes only did the war dance thing once, during the Indigenous round. Lewis Jetta did one the other day in support and in response to the booing arsehats from WA.

Therbs swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted Wednesday
What antics? There aren't any. What continuance? He did one dance during Indigenous Round. Aside from pointing out the racist verbal from the thirteen year old girl, tehre's been no histrionics or carry on from Adam Goodes. Its a myth perpetuated by Melbourne media types, tweeters and social commentators and you've fallen for it.

HAVOCK21 mutters...

Posted Wednesday
not fallen for, its not about DOING A DANCE, its about his remonstrations, pointing , charging, and comments....all continuing. And ...AND!!!!!! on top of that, getting booed and not liking it!...well....bad fkn luck I say. Lots have been boooooed before.
What do I see with Adam. I see somebody who very readily goes to the race card!.
Personally...I FKN HATE HIM AS A PLAYER!...cannot stand the fkr. Fakes it and in my opinon he's a grand stander. Thats my view. does that make me a racist!...I fkn HATE BUCKLY with as much gusto!.....

Therbs would have you know...

Posted Wednesday

What remonstrations and pointing does he do which are beyond that of any number of other AFL players? Not going to the race card, he stood up to what was based on race and has been copping it since. This "everyone gets booed" is simply rationalisation of something which started as race based and through labelling him as other things (sook, penalty puller, all the rest) gave the munters licence to keep it going. The fact is he stands up for himself and what a lot of the racists in the crowd hate is an uppity blackfella.

Ive said it before but Stevie J can best be described as a grub for the style of his play and interaction with opponents. But he's white, yeah?

Adam's character is strong, he is a kind and gentle man and gives willingly of his time to others.

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Josh swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted Wednesday
Sorry JB. I couldn't disagree with you more on this. I'm a life long AFL fan/supporter/player who's childhood hero's were Gilbert McAdam & Michael Long. The booing is not racially based. In fact it had pretty much stopped over the few weeks before last weekend because it had been linked with racism. The West Coast supporters (who brought back the booing on Sunday) are infamous for being a bunch of grubs at their own ground. They did the exact same thing to Jobe Watson when the ASADA story first broke. I'm not condoning booing 1 player for whatever reason. But putting it down to racism just seems very convenient.

Lulu mutters...

Posted Wednesday
"They did the exact same thing to Jobe Watson when the ASADA story first broke."

The Preston Towers article which JB linked to covers why that booing (and others) is different from this case.

Josh reckons...

Posted Wednesday
Where is this link you speak of ? I'm more than happy to read it.

Therbs would have you know...

Posted Wednesday

In what way is it not racially based. It came to the fore after Goodes called out the racist girl in the crowd particularly by the Melbourne AFL inner circle (e.g.Eddie Maguire making a King Kong joke). Using tags of "sook" are a way of covering the inherent racism which lies at the heart of this. I haven't seen a player cop the likes consistently, across many clubs. Its tens of thousands doing it supported by the bullshit "harden the fuck up" attitude of many in the AFL world. It isn't about being hard, he's proven his toughness by being brave in the face of unrelenting racism. The sooner people like you stop denying its racist nature, the better. If he was white, this would never have started.

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UntamedSnark ducks in to say...

Posted Wednesday
Josh-the booing hadn't pretty much stopped. 3 of the last 4 games were played as home games for the Swans so it was over powered by the fans Lions fans were not too bad though there was a vocal contingent, previous to that both the Suns and Kangaroos were very vocal & aggressive with their booingIt has steadily been getting worse all season

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Lobes asserts...

Posted Wednesday
The soccer honchos at UEFA know how to deal with this crap. Any club that unleashes racist supporters can expect to play their next game in front of an empty stadium. If the talking heads at AFL house had the slightest bit of integrity they'd go down the same route. But they won't because they're perfectly happy condoning racism.

Therbs puts forth...

Posted Wednesday
A simple and effective measure. But the AFL and Melbourne AFL types don't see the issue as being such a problem as requiring such definitive action. They just don't get it. They're still living in Hey Hey! Its Red Faces Black Face times.

HAVOCK21 ducks in to say...

Posted Wednesday
good thing then the NRL does not follow suit I guess, hell, throw in coke snorters, wife bashers and generally cave man like NRL players as bad and you would not have a code anywhere in OZ.
As for soccer..yep, they keep them out on the streets riotingand when was the last time an AFL stadium got burnt down or had flares thrown out at an AFL game.

Therbs asserts...

Posted Wednesday
This isn't about those issues, bad as they are. Its about knocking racist crap on the head.

Bollocks is gonna tell you...

Posted Yesterday

There's been great aboriginal players in the AFL for bloody decades. Why is the problem blowing up now? Probably because social justice warriors who want to play "kick a bogan" have decided to inflame the situation. It's fucking awesome for generating web traffic - and the luvvies on twitter that fucking hate bogans and the sport they watch have found another crusade to get enraged about.

The crowds have never been perfect - but people like Therbs want to tar AFL supporters as some sort of Neuremburg rally because what he really fucking hates - more than racists - is the people that actually watch AFL.

When something like this really blows up - especially when there have been teams like Essendon and North Melbourne that have had amazing indigenous players for years and where, while there has been occasional bullshit, you have to wonder what changed

And what changed is not that people suddenly became more racist (that's probably been on the decline as everyone has become a bit more enlightened) - but instead the hysterical social media driven ecosystem that inflames division rather than builds consensus.

The more the media and people like Therbs whip this up - the worse it is going to get. Rather than building consensus and generating tolerance and understanding - there's a lot more mileage on building the biggest bonfire possible and seeing how many bastards can be fried.

John Birmingham puts forth...

Posted Yesterday
That argument would hold more water if the criticism was only coming from the SJW Collective. But it's being made by people who love the game. It's not a bogan sport. It's a billion dollar entertainment business.

beeso is gonna tell you...

Posted 21 hours ago
Jonathon Brown, that well known lefty SJW.

Timbo has opinions thus...

Posted 11 hours ago
Why is it 'only just blowing up now'?

Because he stood up for himself and all who follow him, he didn't do what 'everyone' would have preferred and just suck it up.

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w from brisbane is gonna tell you...

Posted Wednesday
Getting picked out for booing by opposition supporters is traditionally an affirmation of your success as a player. Normally, in between boos, the booers are saying to each other 'Gee, I wish he played for us!'. As I have sat amongst booers, it might not sound like it, but the booing can be good natured and meant to be complimentary. Also, the 'boo' noise is such a keeper because it carries well and rises over other sounds, so the number of booers is usually much fewer than it sounds like. That being said, this booing is past a joke and everyone needs to move on. It is up to the opposition management and players to lead the fans. Maybe the opposition players could stand arm and arm with Goodes before the opening whistle to indicate to their fans that the opposition players don't want it and their fans are not helping their team with the booing.

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yankeedog mumbles...

Posted Wednesday
Well, if you all don't want the big black guy, send him up here. Looks like NFL linebacker material to me.

If the guy can play and win your team some games, who should care if he's black, or red, or Scots tartan? Yeah, I know, some people do (American sports fans were the same, until someone said 'Hey, that Robinson guy's pretty good'). Is he the first Aborigine to play the game?

w from brisbane ducks in to say...

Posted Wednesday
There has been heaps of aboriginal players for many decades and they have provided some of the most popular, skilful and admired players. Some have been singled out for booing, often because they are opposition players that would be an annoying to opposition fans whether they were black or white. Though, if the player is aboriginal the booing can include strong racist comment. Partly that is because physical attributes are often used with insults. It's the way insults are personalised. You skinny c*nt, you fat c*nt, you short c*nt, you tall c*nt, you red headed c*nt, you black c*nt.

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Paul_Nicholas_Boylan swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted Wednesday
I gotta pick up where the Ydog left off.

All of this is old news. It is very cold comfort that you lot are experiencing racism in sport like we Americans did.

Learn from our example. Jackie Robinson was more than booed. Opposing teams threatened to strike if he was allowed to play baseball. And there was more. As Wikipedia reports:

"In Sanford, Florida, the police chief threatened to cancel games if Robinson did not cease training activities there; as a result, Robinson was sent back to Daytona Beach. In Jacksonville, the stadium was padlocked shut without warning on game day, by order of the city's Parks and Public Property director."

He and his family received death threats. And remember, back then Jim Crow was alive and well, and black men who voted got lynched. Back then, when a black man received a death threat, he took it seriously.

I know y'all have a dark history that sparkles with racism. I've done all I can to learn about it. But tell me true - is your Mr. Goodes experiencing the boiling rabid hatred that our Mr. Robinson endured?

It is an imperfect solution, but Mr. Goodes cannot quit because racists hate him. He needs to help his team win despite those ass hats.

That's what Jackie Robinson did. He ignored and he played. And he won. His weapons were patience and excellence. And the day came, as Ydog said, when fans stopped booing and instead said "Hey, that Robinson guy's pretty good." He sure as fuck was.

insomniac has opinions thus...

Posted Wednesday
Goodes isn't hated because he's Aboriginal. He will be hated as a player by some as Havock and w have mentioned above. The booing started as a result of him standing up for himself and his race when that girl called him an ape. He is being booed by people who think they are being hilarious but who are too stupid to even understand how they are being racist. He shouldn't quit and the other players need to take a stand in his defence too.

damian asserts...

Posted Yesterday
Paul, the disturbing aspect is that this isn't Australia repeating the USA 50s and 60s experience at all. We already had that experience, in the 50s and 60s. We didn't have Jim Crow laws, but we didn't need to because we didn't recognise Aborigines as citizens or even as legally people till the late 60s. By then and into the 70s, Australia collectively expressed in overwhelming majorities its wish to put an end to such injustices, much as the USA did.
There had always been Aboriginal players in all the mainstream sporting codes. It was one of the few pathways to affluence (or at least comfortable existence) available. This followed a predictable trajectory - from segregated teams to light-skinned people passing for whites to apologetic, almost clandestine integration to integration being more or less open and seen as a good thing.
What's happening here, while not necessarily new, is different and an expression of the same sort of reactive failure to understand the world that fuels the gamergaters. It's a working-class shout that "you middle-class hippy wankers can't tell me how to behave", that anti-racism (like feminism for the gamergaters) is something that outsiders bring into their world view against their will. It isn't they can't understand it - they refuse to. There's a disconnect in that they feel their class solidarity has its own moral force and their worldview demands it triumph over any other moral duty. Anyone objecting to this must be a member of a reviled class (this SJW thing that they define themselves only as a kind of opposing community... like other stuff that doesn't really exist).
It's early morning here and I can't do the subject much justice, but the psychology is interesting and scary.

SZF mumbles...

Posted 18 hours ago
The Jackie Robinson comparison doesn't really fit though. Dodgers owner Branch Rickey got Robinson (apparently a renowned hothead in the Negro Leagues) to agree to not retaliate in any way to the taunts Rickey knew he would face.
Besides, we're comparing Jim Crow 1940's US versus 2015 Australia - why the f*ck shouldn't Goodes respond to racism!?

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan has opinions thus...

Posted 14 hours ago
I am all for him responding any way he chooses, I was reacting to the suggestion that he might quit because of this idiocy.

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Barnesm reckons...

Posted Wednesday

I think those that are booing him are either racist or don't care if they are considered supportive of racists. I apologize if that hurts some peoples feelings.

It really does remind me of some of the gamergate justifications.


Bollocks swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted Yesterday

Have a look who benefitted the most from the Gamergate outrage. Pissing people off gets far more traffic than informed reasoned debate. Going to war against your audience is going to get you far more traffic than reasoned deconstructions of the plot of the latest "call of duty" game.

Advertising revenues are declining. Sites need hits. People like Bolt and Jones are kept around because pissing people off gets a lot more attention than quietly keeping them informed.

Outrage releases the same level of endorphins as a good orgasm. Don't assume that just because the cause seems sort of just and you get to throw a few basement dwelling nerds (or bogans) on the bonfire that your outrage about stuff is righteous fury.

The media wants you feeling sanctimonious about stuff - it's one of the few ways left that they can grab your attention. And just as we see that right getting sanctimonious and vitriolic about the crap that Jones and Bolt spill, don't assume that it doesn't happen on the left with confected shit like "gamergate"

John Birmingham ducks in to say...

Posted Yesterday
What you say about click driven media is true, but the mainstream media didn't cover Gamergate for months. I know because I wrote the first column about it for the SMH and had to explain to my editor what it was about..Yes, sites like Salon exist to inflame outrage, but the attacks on those women were already outrageous.

damian is gonna tell you...

Posted 23 hours ago
Nah, Bollocks I call bollocks.
With gamergaters you only had to engage very lightly to draw out what they really believed about it, and it is not a set of views that intersects with the reality of the situation anywhere interesting. The behaviour is still there, and the longer it goes the more invested the participants are, the more justified they feel. Like I said the psychology is interesting. It's a deeply morbid psychology that makes you despair for humanity's future.

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NBlob would have you know...

Posted Wednesday
I wasn't bought up as a follower of any particular football code, so I never had the experience of being a Tigers, Lions, Cats or whatever follower from birth. I shot a Fkn lot of sport & always marvelled at the vitriol & venom opposition players. AFL was certainly the worst for sledging. However it's a small step and a giant leap to go from "You Fat C*nt" to racial abuse. Someone who hasn't lived with the colour of one's skin defining you can't begin to imagine it. I can't imagine why one stupid comment seemed to be the straw that broke the camels ACL, but I believe we should accept in good faith that it was genuinely the point where he said "This much and no more." As for the bru ha ha, just mouth-breathers out-outraging each other for page views, ratings & sales. Damn but don't the punters love some outrage.

NBlob would have you know...

Posted Wednesday
Venom * directed at* opposition players

w from brisbane reckons...

Posted Wednesday
And that is as nothing compared to the vitriol directed at the field umpires. Aussie rules is a fast, constantly contested game with constant umpire decision-making and legions of passionate fans who don't really understand the rules. My experience of sitting in the AFL bleachers is to be surrounded by shouting, splenetic people constantly shouting foul abuse at the umpires. It's as if they come for the umpiring. It would shut the fans up quite a bit if they sat down and actually read the rule book.

Bangar is gonna tell you...

Posted 22 hours ago
Face it if an umpires decision is against your team it's wrong in a lot of fans "minds". Apol for the bold.

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w from brisbane would have you know...

Posted Wednesday
It was one of the great moments in sport and it made me proud to be Australian when Nicky Winmar, 20 years or so ago, faced those in the crowd shouting their dumb shit, and lifted up his shirt and pointed at his skin, black and proud of it. An iconic moment. http://goo.gl/p3eAC0

Halwes mumbles...

Posted Yesterday

That was a great response wasn't it ? I was stoked at the time.

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Quokka is gonna tell you...

Posted Wednesday
First Dog is adept at translating Fuckwit.Not that I follow FOOOOOOball but there you go.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jul/29/why-do-you-boo-adam-goodes-is-it-because-?CMP=share_btn_tw

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Noely is gonna tell you...

Posted Yesterday
As a Rugby League follower I always thought we were pretty bad when it came to booing, but after watching recent weeks of AFL they have really shamed themselves. I don't think I have seen so many tweets online that start with "I'm not a racist but...". It is shocking. Even at the height of the whole Storm salary cap drama when everyone in NSW already couldn't stand the Storm so reveled in hating on them the boos didn't get to this sort of proportion. I'm never going to cop the 'thugby' tag from AFL fans in future, they can look themselves in the mirror :(

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BigWillieStyle swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted Yesterday
Jesus. Havock - sorry, HAVOCK - bringing more fuckwittery than usual to this one. But, but, but....he picked on a 12-year-old girl! But, but, but....I just...he just...I don't like the way he plays! But, but, but...he....he....did a dance that I didn't like! But, but, but....NRL players are worse!

Give it up. There is no credible justification for the constant booing of Goodes. None. He's an ornament to the game, and he's got the guts to stand up for himself. Points out a few uncomfortable truths while he's at it. I hope he keeps doing what he's doing, and makes the craven little arsehats even angrier than they already are.

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Halwes ducks in to say...

Posted Yesterday
But is the majority of it racism or yobboism? Sure there will be racists doing it but for the yobbos I reckon it might be like saying your mother wears gumboots to the right target audience. One person thought to make the jungle sledge, everyone saw what a great reaction it got from all quarters and more people decided to do it. Dumb and nasty people sure, but all of them racists? It would be really hard work to be a racist in the NT. You wouldn't have any mates because mixed blood is the norm and not the exception. We are reputed to be pretty uncivilised at times in the NT, and rightfully so in my opinion, but this wouldn't happen here.

Detritus2099 would have you know...

Posted Yesterday
Distinguishing between yobbo & racist? That's a pretty fine filter.

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Blake ducks in to say...

Posted Yesterday
Its not entirely unbelievable that so many of them are not 'intentionally' racist. The thing the AfL always did better than ther other codes in aus is breed in club affiliation from birth. You have to be committed to sit through 20 years of team losses and you need a strong club culture to make the atmosphere as good as it is. But you also tend to breed a follower instinct, the excuses dont need to be real strong to do something when 1000 other people in spitting distance are doing the same.
The whole issue does highlight the big issue has with racism. Its not like the US where it was overt and across the board. Here its casual, the boundaries are grey, a phrase that was common usage yesterday is banned today. And that can mean that its harder to tell the difference between a legitimate complaint and an overeactive sook. And because its so hard and inconsistent we're a bit uptight about being labelled racist.
I generally rile at the sooking that goes on over malleable language, the english language has moved its definitions around since it was started and getting upset because some group has decided they no longer like the implied connotations. Sometimes it is better to

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Blake has opinions thus...

Posted Yesterday
One day i will finish a comment before hitting the submit button.
I was going to end with: sometimes though you have to suck it up and accept that people will be insulted if you use a term or act in some way and change your behaviour.
Prior to the eddie macguire thing i was probably sufficiently naive that i may have slurred (in the heat of a football match) any particularly hairy and built man as an ape... But you learn, and luckily im not taken to slurring at football matches

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Legless mumbles...

Posted Yesterday
Is there a solution to this? I can only think of one. Every time it happens, every AFL player with a shred of human decency should refuse to keeping play. Just stop, fold their arms and stare at the crowd.
<font color="#333333">So why not get the ball rolling John? You've a fair twitter following. Start the hashtag #StareAtTheCrowd or #AFLStareAtTheCrowd and link back to this blog post.</font><font color="#333333">
</font><font color="#333333">Just imagine if it actually took off. Just imagine a whole football field of players who just stopped. Let the ball bounce where it would as they turned en masse and, folded their arms and STARED....</font><font color="#333333">
</font><font color="#333333">Crazier things have taken root on the TwitterSphere. If you start, I'll retweet........</font>

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pi has opinions thus...

Posted 22 hours ago
Charie Pickering's segment on the weekly about this BS (episode 15) is pretty good.

http://www.abc.net.au/tv/programs/weekly-with-charlie-pickering/


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HAVOCK21 mutters...

Posted 22 hours ago
Well, I guess now I am educated from here!
You cannot boo anybody thats "black" in AFL ( Aboriginal) as you are a racist if you do!

Barnesm asserts...

Posted 21 hours ago
Not necessarily, but if you go to an AFL game currently and Boo Adam Goodes knowing what you do now I would think you are either a racist or condoning racists actions.

pi mumbles...

Posted 21 hours ago
Nice straw-man argument there hav.

No. Personally, I don't boo anyone. Clap for good play, silence for play on the opposing team. Fair enough that you don't want to be associated with the racism inherent in a lot of crowd behavior, but if you've ever been to a game (as I'm sure you have) you'll know that a lot of the 'banter' has everything to do with vilifying him for his race, and the only thing that's happened is that more people have been emboldened to join in.

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w from brisbane would have you know...

Posted 17 hours ago
I think racism is part of the booing of Adam Goodes at about the same percentage that sexism was part of Julia Gillard losing leadership of the ALP. I would argue that there was a lot of reasons Gillard got the flick, gender came into it, but gender was not the defining factor.

damian would have you know...

Posted 9 hours ago
Possibly, but defining or not whenever you lift a scab only to discover festering pus like Larry Pickering it's pretty darn nasty.

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w from brisbane mutters...

Posted 16 hours ago
A mate of mine has spent the last couple of decades in the remote aboriginal communities of the Kimberley. A mate of his from up there has got a short article (not paywalled) in the Australian on the Adam Goodes booing. It provides a good perspective and is a good read. http://goo.gl/ipBX2E

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Rhino is gonna tell you...

Posted 4 hours ago
HEY! LOOK OVER THERE ... CECIL THE LION!
There, that should get things moving forward.
So, people boo some guy because <insert reason here>. OMG THEY ARE RACIST!!!!!
So what? Sure, it sucks that people still think this way. But, is anyone getting shot/beaten/lynched? Anyone breaking the law? No? Then it's just bad taste and shitty behavior. When this dies down, because it will - because people are stupid and get bored and can't focus on something more than a couple of weeks at most then move on to the next outrage - what thing will you have moral outrage against? How will you show that you are morally superior?
I absolutely support your calling asshats out on asshat behavior. But it really is ...
<a name="19" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; line-height: normal;">She should have died hereafter;</a>

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"In Iraq, I raided insurgents. In Virginia, the police raided me."

Posted Tuesday into Politics by John Birmingham

Great essay by a former serviceman, Alex Hortonis, who knows a little bit about kicking down doors and sticking guns into people's faces. Enough that when it happened to him he knew what to do when it happened to him. And after.

I got home from the bar and fell into bed soon after Saturday night bled into Sunday morning. I didn’t wake up until three police officers barged into my apartment, barking their presence at my door. They sped down the hallway to my bedroom, their service pistols drawn and leveled at me.

It was just past 9 a.m., and I was still under the covers. The only visible target was my head.

In the shouting and commotion, I felt an instant familiarity. I’d been here before. This was a raid.

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Hortonis argues that militirising police work creates a militarised, high threat environment that is more dangerous to operate in:

...law enforcement officers need the cooperation of the communities they patrol in order to do their jobs effectively. In the early stages of the war, the U.S. military overlooked that reality as well. Leaders defined success as increasing military hold on geographic terrain, while the human terrain was the real battle. For example, when our platoon entered Iraq’s volatile Diyala province in early 2007, children at a school plugged their ears just before an IED exploded beneath one of our vehicles. The kids knew what was coming, but they saw no reason to warn us. Instead, they watched us drive right into the ambush. One of our men died, and in the subsequent crossfire, several insurgents and children were killed. We saw Iraqis cheering and dancing at the blast crater as we left the area hours later.

The way he went about piecing together the circumstances and context of his own raid experience is very impressive citizen journalism. Better than a lot of pro journalists could manage, actually.

It's all here.

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Murphy_of_Missouri puts forth...

Posted Tuesday
Always better to try and use reason before force, even in a defensive situation.
A fair number of folks, and not just cops, don't get that.

dweeze is gonna tell you...

Posted Tuesday
SOP - shoot first, ask questions later. For some folks, it's easier to squeeze a trigger than talk nicely.

damian would have you know...

Posted Tuesday
It shouldn't be possible for such people to become cops. It says that it must be really, really hard to recruit good cops. Or there's no interest in paying for them.

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Simon ducks in to say...

Posted Tuesday
I passed this one on to a mate - response was "To Protect and Serve" . . . . . . ourselves.I'd seen something similar to this a few months back but it was about Aussies in Afghanistan (and the red rat). Also an interesting read but can't for the life of me find it anywhere

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NBlob mumbles...

Posted Tuesday
I daily intercept & inspect people who'd rather I didn't. I wonder how my approach would differ in different contexts. In Noosa I risk upsetting a clients Labradoodle or spilling their Pinot Grigio. I don't routinely risk being shot in the fkn head.

damian ducks in to say...

Posted Tuesday
It's a different world, isn't it. If it's hard to recruit good cops in some places, it'd be even harder to stop them turning into manic cagerats with itchy teeth. I guess the way to do that is actually to change the conditions in which they operate, but that's a next level up challenge and many large interest groups like it the way it is.

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GhostSwirv would have you know...

Posted Tuesday

Seems to me a key element in how this scenario played out is race ... if Alex Horton was black and found sleeping in an apartment the police believed was illegally occupied he most likely would not have survived the encounter.

John Birmingham swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted Tuesday
Yep.

Murphy_of_Missouri puts forth...

Posted Wednesday
Ghost, the key element in this scenario is that he knew what was going on and stayed calm. He didn't spaz out, or panic, nor did he try to go after one of them.

I have found, even with the first rate dickheads that are in law enforcement, that the best thing to do is just stay calm and be very, very, painfully polite to them.

Umm, the other side of that is that I NEVER go to them with a problem. If I have a problem, I handle it myself.

NBlob is gonna tell you...

Posted Wednesday
One of those situations where Right & Fair don't matter. It should be the professional's responsibility to manage the situation, Not the punter. But that isn't the reality. If Right & Fair were the dominant forces I wouldn't be up @ 0500, instead I'd be snuggled up between 2 bikini models sleeping off a coke binge. Instead I'm off to work.

GhostSwirv would have you know...

Posted Wednesday

I haven't had any personal dealings with police of late, (if I don't count family functions as my youngest sister is now a zealous Police Prosecutor), but by all accounts the Thin Blue/Black Line has solidified into a very scared, very aggressive and very well-armed agency of govt.

A model of behaviour our current Federal govt. wants to ape for our Border Farce of a Customs and Immigration system.

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HAVOCK21 asserts...

Posted Tuesday
Just saying is all.
https://www.odmp.org/search/year?year=2014
10 x vehicles and 47 by gun fire.
Imagine the fkn uproar here!..worksafe would go fkn EPIC on their arses.Just remember...the line of work AINT THE FKN SAFEST!......

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w from brisbane swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted Wednesday
The most concerning thing was the seeming lack of any minimal enquiry before bursting into a person's bedroom in full swat team mode.

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Simon is gonna tell you...

Posted Wednesday
Exactly, a swat team for a break in was the thing that made me say WTF? Maybe they've had past history of squatters taking residence and defending their newly found home with a full arsenal of grenade launchers and really bad language.

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Halwes is gonna tell you...

Posted Wednesday
This reminds me of the circumstances here since the intervention. A big bunch of bored coppers will always find something to do except bust the child sex offenders which seems to be all too hard for them. Instead they sit on the track and empty peoples possessions onto the road searching for that single gramme of pot that might justify their cushy existence.
If you do run into an NT copper I would suggest, from painful experience, that you be very polite and agree with everything he says. You might as well because you are going to be verballed no matter what you do. If you run into a man hating female NT cop then you have got no hope.

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Barnesm ducks in to say...

Posted Wednesday
Given the militarization of Police is it possible the old adage applies "if all you have is an hammer, every problem looks like a nail"?

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#ReclaimAustria

Posted Tuesday into Blunty by John Birmingham

I was searching for a Blunty topic, not having much luck with the news cycle, and thinking it was going to be a toss up between Quade Cooper's tweet (and the need to for everyone to be given one Get-Out-Of-Jail-Free card on the Internet). Or Jimmy Barnes vs Reclaim Australia.

Neither really appealed, but then with one typo, I had my column.

"Do they not love Austria? Do they not want real Austrians to reclaim their birthright of legacy, while rocking out to Working Class Man, or wiping away a poignant tear about the horses on the beach song. That was a John Farnham one, right? The horses on the beach song? The beach which is now so crowded with the luxury boats of millions of brown boat people that there's not even enough room now for dinkum Austrian heritage horses to gambol about and recreate the charge of the Light Brigade at Beersheba."

At Blunty.

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Simon swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted Tuesday
What no trolls this time? Or are the troll cannons working to order?

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insomniac is gonna tell you...

Posted Tuesday
Just as an aside, Quade Cooper was born in the town in New Zealand that I grew up in. Our times there did not overlap but I don't want anyone thinking poorly of me as a result of that loose association.

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GhostSwirv mumbles...

Posted Tuesday
Mein Gott - Now I get it, the Arnie real estate ads were a prelude to invasion.

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Shifty Tourist has opinions thus...

Posted Wednesday

I'm not necessarily a fan of Cooper, he's part of the kick-away hard won possession, school of Rugby, which is deeply frustrating. But to be honest, If I were a professional sportsman, having to listen to the constant chattering from the peanut gallery for the entirety of your career about whether I should be selected for the team, my performance, that I'm past my peak, not as good as XXXX for the position, I think you should get a free-kick back against the peanuts now and then.

It must be terrible thing about those kind of jobs, unlike the rest of us, the entire public gets to comment on your work performance. Not saying there are not some massive benefits to compensate for this.... but they should be able to tell people to pull their heads in occasionally.

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