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NYT on bringing Peter Cushing back for Rogue 1

Posted December 29 into Movies by John Birmingham

SPOILER WARNING. Seriously. Stop now if you haven't seen the film yet.

I heard Cushing had been digitally reborn for R1 just before I saw the film. I wish I hadn't. I couldn't help but watch his scenes with a hypercritical eye, looking for the contours of the uncanny valley. I don't know that I'd have noticed much if I hadn't already known.

The New York Times has an interesting piece about the process of bringing Grand Moff Tarkon back to life. As the producers point out, it wasn't something they could avoid. “If he’s not in the movie, we’re going to have to explain why he’s not in the movie,” said Kiri Hart, a Lucasfilm story development executive and “Rogue One” co-producer. “This is kind of his thing.”

From NYT:

In striving for a balance between a digital figure who seemed real and one who looked precisely like Cushing, the “Rogue One” creators said seemingly minor tweaks could make significant differences — and these details were tinkered with constantly.
For example, the original “Star Wars” film (also known as “A New Hope”) was lit differently than “Rogue One,” raising questions of how to adjust the lighting on the character.
Hal Hickel, an Industrial Light & Magic animation supervisor, said that lighting him “the way he was in ‘A New Hope’ improved his likeness as Tarkin, but it worsened the sense of him being real because then he didn’t look like any of the actors in the scene.”

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insomniac has opinions thus...

Posted December 29
I don't see what would have been wrong with digging up Cushing's corpse and draping it over some sort of robotic skeleton.

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Paul_Nicholas_Boylan asserts...

Posted December 29
I didn't know in advance and I thought it looked amazing. Sure, if you look close enough you can tell Cushing was CGI, but the uncanny valley has narrowed significantly.

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Murphy_of_Missouri reckons...

Posted December 29
What I noted, after playing both the original and CGI on YouTube after I saw Rogue One, was that they did pretty good with the face. However, Guy Henry's voice is just a notch off. Henry's voice has a bit of crackle in it, especially when he says he want to speak with Lord Vader.


Cushing's voice always rolls, and sounds as smooth as silk, even when he is menacing.


But that wasn't enough to wreck the moment, anymore than the CGI did. However, Princess Leia looked downright creepy. Her skin too flawless, too translucent and milky. Carrie Fisher does, if you look, have some texture to her even at 19.

FormerlyKnownAsSimon is gonna tell you...

Posted January 4
With you on that synopsis Murph. I was pretty impressed with the job they did on Cushing - not so on Leia. I had to google to see if they just got some look-a-like for her role and mashed the makeup on good and proper.

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MordWa ducks in to say...

Posted December 29
Peter Cushing was always sufficiently creepy - odd even, in the way Hammer Horror icons always seemed to be - that having him as CGI didn't bother me. I'm not sure it would work for anyone else; with the obvious exception that Yoda has of course been CGI for 20 years, and no one seemed to care...

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w from brisbane would have you know...

Posted December 29
I haven't seen the movie yet, but regarding the Peter Cushing CGI and prejudicial judgements etc, I read an interview with the Australian actor Anthony LaPaglia. He moved to America and worked hard on the audition circuit but struggled to be cast. He presented as an Australian but was sure his American accent was spot on. The casting people would say, we like you but we don't think your American accent is quite right. To overcome this, he decided to tell them he was American and all problems with his accent disappeared. He ended up with seven years as the lead actor in the very successful TV show, 'Without a Trace'.

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan mutters...

Posted December 30
That is the exact reason why I've stopped telling people that I can read their minds.

Oldy swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted December 31
Well of course I knew you were going to say that

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan has opinions thus...

Posted December 31
You are totally creeping me out, dude.

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McGuffin would have you know...

Posted January 1
I suspect much of the uncanny valley effect has to do with fore-knowledge. My wife and a couple of other people I've talked to weren't especially aware of Peter Cushing, or the fact that he's dead, and didn't notice he was a digital creation.

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Don Bagert mumbles...

Posted January 2
It really was good to see the lengths they went to make this movie "Star Wars, Episode 3.9" (or is that III.IX lol) - they wanted to make it reasonable for future generations to watch "Rogue One" followed by "A New Hope" with as few differences as possible.

Now, it's good that Carrie Fisher has already filmed her scenes for Episode VIII - I hope that they can write around her death so they don't have to CGI Leia again for Episode IX :P

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Rob asserts...

Posted January 2
I think I'll wait till the dvd to see it. My star wars fandom has lost its shine (and you should see my toy collection) , plus my TV is great as is my new stereo. I'm pretty sure there is nothing that is going to spoil it for me.

I got bored with reading the Star wars novels because they essentially just rehashed the first 3 movies in each novel. Yet another Death Star/suncrusher/darksabre and not enough R2D2.

The young Han Solo novels were Ok and gave him some extra depth. What we really need is a return of Jaxxon the Rabbit, now that's a character!

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Aaron ducks in to say...

Posted January 3
I could tell there was some sort of effect but didn't really care, they are trying to tell a story and the original actor is gone. I would prefer they cast real actors with make up or something. They did a fantastic job I felt like I was watching a movie not a prequel.

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She is one with the Force

Posted December 28 into Movies by John Birmingham

By sad, unplanned coincidence we chose A New Hope as our first pick of the front yard outdoor cinema season last night. I wasn't thinking of Carrie Fisher when we settled on that. I just thought it'd be cool to revisit the story after Rogue 1.

However, watching it a few hours before the news that Fisher had passed away, I was struck by how much agency her character enjoyed, and how well she played a 1930s Saturday matinee tough grrl, updated for the 1970s. Other things occured to me as well, including how much the film owes the classic war movies of the 1950s and 60s. But Carrie Fisher's Princess Leia stood out.

I'd say she was an amazing character for that time. But given the way things have gone, she'd be pretty fucking amazing if she turned up for the first time tomorrow.

I might go read her books.

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she_jedi asserts...

Posted December 28
This one has hit me hard, I think because I refused to believe she could succumb to that heart attack. Princess Leia was an incredible character for any era, andCarrie Fisher was simply incredible. I definitely think I need to read her books and find out about all the wit and wisdom that has just returned to the Force. Vale Carrie :(

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w from brisbane reckons...

Posted December 28
Princess Leia is a great character partly because Carrie Fisher brought more to it than was on the page. Nice to hear that Carrie was a joy to be around. It is a special person to 'have personsl issues' but still be consistently great and nourishing company.

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WarDog has opinions thus...

Posted December 28
She wrote one of my favourite movies "Postcards from the Edge". Vale

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Rob asserts...

Posted December 28
Carrie Fisher and Gary the Dog used to like my tweets. Top chick.

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Paul_Nicholas_Boylan mumbles...

Posted December 29
Personal sadness on a surprisingly profound level. She stood for, represented so much more than I realized until I learned that she died.

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Quokka mumbles...

Posted December 29
And there goes her mum to join her. Vale Debbie Reynolds.
:(
The Force must be FKN superpowered by now after all those who've returned to it in the last year.

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Rogue One

Posted December 20 into Movies by John Birmingham

Took the fam to see this last night. Can't recall when I've enjoyed a Star Wars film as much. This being the end of civilzation, there has of course been a manbaby backlash to the penis shortage in the ensemble cast. It's only like 95% male, which is very misandrist.

But being an utter cuck, I fucking loved it.

I thought it meshed with the overall narrative much more smoothly than any of the rebooted and mostly reviled 'prequels' and it gives me real hope for where Disney might go with the franchise over the next decade or so. There's a lot of narrative infilling they could do.

I wont get into spoilers here, but anyone who hasn't seen the film should avoid the comment thread below.

Non spoilery reflections. The storyline was a deft melding of revenge motifs, a coming-of-age tale and a star spanning caper flick. The violence was much more instense than the original series, but not as bloody as last year's Force Awakens. It was still pretty intense though.

The cast was well balanced and the performances mostly great.

I thought the exploration of the 'dark side' of the rebellion was fittingly modern. It recalled the insurgency series of Galactica.

Effects? Top shelf, although I had a few uncanny valley moments with Moff Tarkin.

Script. B+

Rewatch value. Very high.

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Chris Salmon puts forth...

Posted December 20
Great story, acting, effects. Thought the music was a but over done at times but still very much in the spirit.

Nice to see the galaxy so far away without so many super doopers, royalty, and associated wunderkind. These are the real folk of the Alliance. People not afraid to get their hands dirty.

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MordWa ducks in to say...

Posted December 20
Funnily enough, the Tarkin effects didn't bother me at all; Peter Cushing was always a creepy looking dude. I though Leia was more distracting, and (sorry to moan) whoever in the Vader suit was damn near dancing, he was so spry-! I liked it, make no mistake...

Can't wait for Rogue Two, aye *wink wink*

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Stephen mumbles...

Posted December 20
Saw it on release day Liked it mostly more of an adult focus, some of those inspirational speeches were cringeworthy though. Seemed like someone had decided to add them after the main shooting, apparently a lot of reshooting and re editing was done, new scenes added some dropped to change the tenor of the film.
Worth seeing but not a great film but certainly better than the prequels, and also better then last years film The force Awakens

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tqft is gonna tell you...

Posted December 20
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Donnie Yen almost wasted in this, pity he won't be back for more

Gilligan asserts...

Posted December 22
I respectfully disagree.

I know Mr Yen is usually a leading man (he was simply *epic* in Ip Man), but within the ensemble piece I thought Chirrut and Baze were an awesome double act. Yen's Force-sensitive nature was a great way of including the mysticism of the original trilogy without adding yet another "one of the last Jedi" character to the universe.

I also loved how he cleaned up the squad of Stormtroopers. Would've like a few more mid- and long-shots with a locked-off camera, but I got to see some solid wailing on dudes, and even the signature foot shuffle/plant thing from HK cinema.

I think he was used much more effectively than, say, Jackie Chan in Kung Fu Panda, who really only had a couple of lines so why bother?

Of course, YMMV.

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Vovchara is gonna tell you...

Posted December 20
yeah, agree completely. The dark side of rebellion was spot on. Surprisingly funny jokes. For a rather dark narrative.

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Don Bagert mumbles...

Posted December 21
Lots of nice places with info on cameos and Easter eggs about Rogue One, although one I haven't seen yet is about that temple that Chirrut Îmwe was part of - whether it was related to the Jedi temples, one of which was seen in the "Path of the Jedi" episode of Star Wars: Rebels. (It was used to have Yoda - voiced by Frank Oz! - communicate with the Jedi Kanan in that episode.)

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Kristophr is gonna tell you...

Posted December 21
Thanx for the review. I think I'll go see it.

Yea, the virgin-TOWs ( the neckbeard crazy wing of the MGTOW community ) panned it. Which was a good review by itself.

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Blarkon reckons...

Posted December 21
First Star Wars film that I won't see a second time in the cinema - and I think the minimum number of times I've seen a Star Wars film in the cinema (Caravan of Courage and Ewok Adventure excluded) is about 5.

Visually amazing, but a bit soulless. It's odd that there was all this stuff I wanted to see, but came out of the experience feeling a bit empty.

Rebellion comes across more in this film as a bunch of amoral ideological terrorists than freedom fighters - which I guess explains why the galaxy seems to be in a substantially worse state by Episode 7 when they are running things than it was when the Empire was in charge or even when things were failing during the end of the republic era. Revolutionaries who are willing to kill anyone to achieve their goals don't make great governments - and that's how the rebellion now comes off - just another faction lusting after power, not a group of selfless heroes overthrowing a tyrannical regime.

No wonder Luke fucked off after Jedi and didn't tell them where he was going. After Rogue One, it's pretty clear that unless you're already one of the elites like senator Mothma or Organa, the new regime won't be substantially better for you than the one with the old guy who can shoot lightning bolts from his fingers. Wonder how long the guy who ordered Jyn's dad's death waited before he set up some gulags and started the purges of people who may have worked with the imperial government. I'm guessing not very fucking long.

Would *love* to know what the original cut was like.

John Birmingham swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted December 21
These are all valid points, but another of seeing R1 is as the series growing up. It simply much more realistic than the original kids movies.

Blarkon reckons...

Posted December 21
I grok that - though wonder if a series ostensibly about knights with magic powers and laser swords is an appropriate canvas for a gritty grown up or realistic approach.

As many documentaries and reflections on the phenomenon that is Star Wars have suggested, ANH was a breakout film in the 70's specifically because it was unashamedly optimistic and simplistic in an age when other filmmakers were going for gritty realism.

I recall an interview with Lucas around the time they were making "Attack of the Clones" where he was asked why Star Wars wasn't grittier like The Matrix. He said he'd love to make a film like that, but it wouldn't be Star Wars. That audiences wanted the franchise to grow as they had, but that at its essence it was a story aimed at 9 year olds and that straying to far from that simplistic view of good and evil would compromise the essence of what made Star Wars different from a million other SciFi and Fantasy properties.

There probably is a balance that can be found between what is essentially a silly idea and gritty realism. It's just that a series where an overriding narrative philosophy was "once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny" doesn't seem to be too compatible with the idea of moral shades of grey.

"Give in to your hatred" doesn't seem like such a danger if the narrative ruleset is altered to allow more moral ambiguity.

I dunno. Isn't it possible that a theme or universe is more than just the art direction and internal history, but also about the narrative and moral rules put in-place by the creators - and that if those rules are broken in the wrong way, the integrity of the fictional setting itself "collapses"?

Gilligan puts forth...

Posted December 22
I've had a few friends come out of the film a bit cold, liking the individual bits/beats but not having the whole really gel for them. Me? I loved it. Much Rogue, would Rogue again.

As for the morally ambiguous Rebellion, I think JB's on the money when he talks about the series growing up.

I thought the attack on the hover tank had a very roadside bomb/IED feel about it, and I'd like to think that couldn't have been by accident. And if we are maturing the series a bit, the truth is that the Rebellion would've needed some straight up wetwork black ops guys and gals willing to do whatever if they wanted to defeat the Empire. One imagines that if you fully explored the activities of the Resistance in occupied Europe, probably not the entirety of the group covered themselves in whitehat glory.

It's almost like (acknowledging that he was working for the baddies) the Operative in Serenity. He knows he's doing, and is willing to do, terrible things to achieve his side's aims, and that in so doing there's no place in the New World for him. And he's OK with that. Cassian... similar thoughts, but maybe a little less at peace with it.

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Coriolisdave has opinions thus...

Posted December 21
Enjoyed this, but found the music very distracting.. didn't seem to fit half the scenes, had absolutlely no subtelty (Vader on screen? QUICK, DEATH MARCH!).

Really hoping we get to see the original cut one day - judging from the trailer breakdowns on youtube it was a significantly different film.

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JBtoo asserts...

Posted December 21
Agree with the criticisms of the music - it was terrible.
The film was a lot bleaker than I was expecting. Felicity Jones was very good - pity we won't see her again.

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Murphy_of_Missouri asserts...

Posted December 22
I'll see it this Friday but I have seen the CGI Tarkin and Leia clips via YouTube. I thought they were well done. It is interesting that they can digitally resurrect someone from the grave, and technically, Tarkin wasn't dead yet by this point in the series.


I think the ethics hand wringing is probably just another sign of the ongoing panic fest in the wake of recent events in November. I find myself chuckling heartily and moving onto the next train wreck.

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Paul_Nicholas_Boylan mutters...

Posted December 22
I haven't seen the film, I read the comments thread above, and now the film is ruined for me. I know I can only blame myself, but I am still bitter about the whole thing.

John Birmingham has opinions thus...

Posted December 22
Welcome back, 007. I hope we can look forward to some gratuitous sex and violence.

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SZF reckons...

Posted December 28
Loved it. It's very much a "war movie" in the style of The Dirty Dozen or Where Eagles Dare. More than anything, I came out of it struck by the thought that after growing up with the original trilogy, THIS was the sort of Star Wars movie I wanted to see as an adult. I've seen plenty of objectively better flicks, but very few that were as much fun to watch.

My only regret is it's a bit too Rated M for me to take my 6.5 year old (yet)...

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Dunkirk Trailer

Posted December 15 into Movies by John Birmingham

I've always thought Kenneth Brannagh should spend the latter half of his career remaking the great British war movies, including Zulu. (How good would Jason Statham be as the gnarly Sgt Major!?!)

Dunkirk isn't a remake, of course. And it's more Private Ryan than Dam Busters.

But it proves my point about Brannagh.

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John Birmingham has opinions thus...

Posted December 15
FROM Ian Andrew (author)*

That may well be your most brilliant idea ever - Brannagh to remake the classics - aww... a modern remake of Zulu though, gee that would have to be done with some care and great panache. Although a wonderful opportunity to set the record straight about Private Hook. Oh and Idris Elba would make a superb Shaka…
Others in the KB Classic series –
The Great Escape starring Ben Cumberbatch as Sqn Ldr Roger Bushell
The Dambusters – starring Nicholas Hoult as Wg Cdr Guy Gibson (dog’s names changed throughout)
633 Squadron – starring Simon Pegg as Flying Officer Hoppy Hopkinson (‘cos he does a good Jock)
The Longest Day – starring… well everyone with an Equity card ‘cos there weren’t half a lot of them in the original…

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*I'm reposting from Twitter because Ian had some issues lodging his comment.

Lulu has opinions thus...

Posted December 16
Idris Elba would indeed make a great Shaka, but in the service of pedantry, I feel compelled to point out that the Zulu king at the time of that particular battle was Cetshwayo.

And I love the idea of Branagh remaking all of those classics.

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Sparty2 ducks in to say...

Posted December 15
Since its nearly xmas and we're on war movies, and I know I've posted this before but in honor of Rogue One and 633 Squadron
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OZq-tlJTrU
Thats how to do a remake.

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Murphy_of_Missouri asserts...

Posted December 16
Nolan knows his business.


He definitely has a fixation with the grey tides, and frigid landscapes.

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DarrenBloomfield reckons...

Posted December 16
A Bridge too far - I also Think Pegg would make a good Monty (?)
Battle of the Bulge
What about the Pacific Theatre. Leave Bridge on the River Kwai alone as that cannot be improved. But, maybe Tora Tora Tora! or - even - Midway - (but maybe with unexpected arrivals from the future... no wait, NO ONE would believe that...)

insomniac mumbles...

Posted December 16
If Harry Fucking Styles can get an acting gig then surely there's a role for the Burgers as extras in the remake of Midway.

Dave W puts forth...

Posted December 16
I thought the world was already broken vis-a-vis Nicholas Cage in anything.

FormerlyKnownAsSimon reckons...

Posted December 19
GI Blues perhaps? ; )

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Sparty2 asserts...

Posted December 16
Rogue One is a good movie - and
And if you like "the bridge at Njimagen"
You'll love it. Not same plot (so no spoilers)
Just the feel.

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tqft mutters...

Posted December 16
What's a War movie?
http://qz.com/864515/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-turns-50-years-old-today/
"But even as Leone’s directing makes torture entertaining, the film sympathetically, and elegiacally, condemns the horrors of war."

Remake with Chris Pine as Blondie?

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S.M. Stirling puts forth...

Posted December 16
Not quite a war movie, but "The Thin Man", perhaps?

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pi is gonna tell you...

Posted December 19
It should also be noted that probably the most famous speech by Churchill was delivered as a response to this conflict. It was given one week after the evacuation of Dunkirk.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkTw3_PmKtc

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Stephen M. Stirling ducks in to say...

Posted December 20
Dunkirk was a disaster, but not nearly as much of a disaster as losing the 350,000 men would have been. That was the only cadre of trained soldiers Britain had.

If the Germans hand't stopped their armor, they would have driven onto the beach in about another 2 days; they'd have had significant losses, but the entire force in the Dunkirk pocket would have been bagged, and they probably would have won the war.

The essential thing Britain did after the fall of France was "not give up". That kept the war in being, and that brought the US in to the European conflict.

This shows the crucial role of individuals. The main alternative to Churchill to succeed Chamberlain was Halifax, and Halifax wanted to negotiate a settlement after France went down.

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan has opinions thus...

Posted December 23
I've always hated Halifax, but for other reasons.

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Gilligan has opinions thus...

Posted December 22
JB: Love me some J-Stath for sure, but the grizzled Sgt. Maj. needs to stay Welsh. If Pete Poselthwaite were still around he'd be a shoe-in. Robert Pugh could be grizzled enough, methinks. Rhys Ifans could do the attitude, but may be a bit wiry? We could also see what sort of Welsh accent Liam Cunningham can manage because, well, Liam Cunningham.

The other bit of fun would be casting the Michael Caine character (and of course ol' Micky C himself would need to cameo), as they need to be pretty enough and cocky enough to pull it off. Alfie Allen might manage it?

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Star Trek Beyond

Posted August 19 into Movies by John Birmingham

I did manage to catch this one for my birthday. Took the fam. We all liked it. I'd post a review but, you know, writing books.

I'm not sure why it hasn't done as well as the others. I though it was better than the Wrath of Khan remake.

Now, back to writing books.

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Sparty asserts...

Posted August 19
Into Khan did well cause people liked the first one. Ironically the better film (Beyond) is reaping the ill feeling the second generated.
Could really see Simon Peggs influence -although constrained by the blockbuster template. My main criticism would be that Kirk again won through the power of his fists -in the series he would have lost the fight but won the war something like "So Idris Elba, you think you've won? but ...on EARTH we have a little EMOTION we call LOVE, Now turn off the mad computer / genisis device / guardian of forever and lets go home and kiss"

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Murphy_of_Missouri swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted August 20
I thought it was doing better.

I had a rare moment when watching the film.

They actually impressed me with the design of Yorktown Base. That hasn't happened to me in a very long time.

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Barnesm mutters...

Posted August 20
My thinking too, I liked it more than .....into darkness. It seemed a call back to Trek's optimistic vision. Even a fan of the 'we are stronger together over text.

Laughed out loud at the 'seems so ...episodic" comment from Kirk.

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Posted August 21
Nice use of classical music.

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Posted August 22
Saw this a couple of weeks ago and loved it. Yorktown Base was spectacular to the point that I suffered from a bit of motion sickness i
when they returned there to battle Idra's cronies(sorry cant rememeber the names. Simon Pegg's influence was there with some well placed humor

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Jason Bourne returns

Posted August 4 into Movies by John Birmingham

I also quite liked this piece in Rolling Stone on the return of the Bourne franchise. I've always liked the sleeping assassin genre. The first line of Without Warning is a nod to it. The Bourne films are the apotheosis of that particular literary trope – although Robert Ludlum would hardly literary.

This piece by David Fear is worth a read for any fans:

No one knew that the War on Terror was just around the corner while folks developed the blueprints for the Bourne movies in the early aughts, or that the talented lad who cried in Robin Williams' hairy arms had an inner MMA fighter lurking within. Play poker against an Oreo-licking, scenery-chewing John Malkovich? Totally. Sweep the leg of a guy with a machine gun who just crashed through a window, crack his limbs and stab the dude with a pen? Did not see that coming.

That's the Identity scene that really sells the idea of Damon as an agile action hero — or more specifically, that his lean, mean, government-trained killing machine could be the template for an entirely different type of action-movie hero, one more suitable to the moment than the traditional steroidal he-man. The Stallone/Schwarzenegger model wasn't necessarily going to cut it now, nor, for that matter was a dapper agent with a martini in his hand and witty quip on his lips. (To say that the Bond films changed tact, and wisely so, would be an understatement.) What was needed was someone espionage-savvy who played dirty in a dirty-bomb age even if he seemed as superficially whitebread as a Midwestern all-state wrestler. Someone smart enough to have read a book and lethal enough to then use that same book as a weapon.

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w from brisbane mutters...

Posted August 4
I read an interview with Matt Damon years ago about first getting cast as Bourne. His career was a bit dead. His last couple of movies had not been commercially successful. He was not being sent scripts. He was worried. Then he got invited to lunch with these filmmakers. Didn't think much of it. That's what happens in Hollywood he said, you get invited to lunch. Not much usually comes of it. But they pitched Bourne to him and they seemed keen for him to do it. He was puzzled by their interest. He said to the interviewer, look at me, my face is naturally boyish and a bit smirky. His said his first job after being cast was to stand in front of the mirror and find the Bourne face.

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Posted August 4
Ha, great story.

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Stephen M. Stirling is gonna tell you...

Posted August 5
God, but I wish the CIA were as ruthlessly omnipotent in real life as it is in the Bourne movies.

NBlob would have you know...

Posted August 5
Because the CIA has such an impeccable record of helping, being right and making things better?

Murphy_of_Missouri mutters...

Posted August 5
I don't think the CIA can find their ass with a road map.

Sudragon ducks in to say...

Posted August 5
Isn't that because Russian moles have swapped all the maps?

Murphy_of_Missouri reckons...

Posted August 5
Most likely.

Like no one noticed the soft spots in the lawn at Langley.

NBlob has opinions thus...

Posted August 7
It must be odd, significantly & jarringly odd to work in an agency publicly tasked to undertake industrial grade shenanigans. In a Military context sir yessir, but civilian with footy-tipping and the new A04j(15)-Approval of New Form form which is submitted to the form approval unit, not the old A04j(11).

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Therbs mutters...

Posted August 5
I reckon the Bond franchise needs to go back to Fleming's work and re-imagine it in a darker world. Either that or realise that shark jumping is not best practice.

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DarrenBloomfield has opinions thus...

Posted August 5
I bunge (re)read all the Bond books from go to whoa last year. Hadn;t read them since I was a teenager, I was inspired to do so by the excellent "For Your Eyes Only: Ian Fleming and James Bond" by Ben McIntyre (regulars will have heard me bang on about this many time before here at the Burger).\


I was shocked at how *bad* they were,

Any decent (dark or otherwise) Bond reimagining needs to be at least as removed from the source novels as the Craig versions...

Lulu would have you know...

Posted August 5
Darren, have you read "The Man Who Saved Britain: A personal journey into the disturbing world of James Bond", by Simon Winder? It's hilarious, while also saying some quite astute things about why Bond appealed to post-war Britain.

DarrenBloomfield puts forth...

Posted August 8
No, but I will. Thanks!

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Rhino would have you know...

Posted August 6
I'm conflicted. I generally like the Bourne movies and Damon as an actor. Seems like a likable dude. I can't decide whether or not he is a major hypocrite for having his career revived, and pockets filled, by playing a character (multiple times) that uses guns, etc., and yet he calls for disarming everyone. I generally let that stuff slide ... but I'm conflicted here for some reason.

w from brisbane mutters...

Posted August 6
I haven't seen the new movie, but the series does not present guns as a desirable lifestyle choice. Bourne is constantly miserable and the only nice people he encounters do not seem to be carrying a weapon.

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HAVOCK21 mutters...

Posted August 6
real WTF.

'but the series does not present guns as a desirable lifestyle choice. Bourne is constantly miserable and the only nice people he encounters do not seem to be carrying a weapon."

There a lot of people in TEXAS and elsewhere that would really fucking disagree! IF FACT!...One of my most hapiest and recurring fkn events is when I have a GUN IN MY HAND!!!......BOTH for those with dirty moinds and Killing bambi and ducks and I would wger FKN BAD GUYS!.

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Murphy_of_Missouri ducks in to say...

Posted August 8
Aside from lifeguarding saves the closest Zen moments I've ever had come from time spent with an M-16 or some other type of weapon.

Frankly, I think Damon is a first rate hypocrite. Then again, he isn't alone in Hollywood in that regard.

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LCC would have you know...

Posted August 12
JB... my heart swoons a little just writing your initials!! I lived for Felafel and just caught the news about 66 York Street.

That book was such a gem in every way. I still live in Brisbane and often think of its various characters. Thanks for having the balls to get it out there.

Also.. just wondering JB, had you ever had time for The Sopranos etc?

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Bondiboy66 would have you know...

Posted August 12
I do enjoy the Jason Bourne movies...but every time I see Matt Damon on a screen or in print I instantly think of Team America - World Police.

Jon ducks in to say...

Posted August 13
"I'm so wonely" damn you now I have to watch that again!

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Rhino reckons...

Posted August 15
I know that this blog isn't a money generator and I'm damned glad JB is busy, busy with paying gigs. But, I'm a spoiled Rhino. Anyone else feeling JB withdrawal symptoms?

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Murphy_of_Missouri asserts...

Posted August 15
You are not alone, Rhino.

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Dave W has opinions thus...

Posted August 15
Testify, Rhino.

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FormerlyKnownAsSimon mutters...

Posted August 15
there is a lot of derp out there taking up his attention methinks. Trump, derps dressing like a bunch of footy players for a theme night on the turps (turpsderps) and sermon bombing a church (turps derps at church), Trump, and Trump. Plus that story from a couple of weeks ago about zombie nazi reindeer rising from the melted depths of the siberian tundra has got to take anyone's attention . . . . . okay maybe not nazi but it was from 1941!

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NBlob has opinions thus...

Posted August 15
Rumour Control.

1. JB is not quelling a Bunny uprising.

2. He is not consulting with Presidente Dueterte re-writing the Phillipino constitution, substituting a time-traveling brown coach for where it currently says ya de ya fair & speedy trial.

3. Nor negotiating a fair price for the Spratleys.

4. He is not competing @ Rio in the Double overhand spliff roll. His competitive days are past. (An irreparable metacarpal blowout in 03.)

NBlob would have you know...

Posted August 15
Fkn auto correct *time travelling brown couch *

Dave W mumbles...

Posted August 16
Shouldn't have drawn attention to it, N, now it's all I can see and it wasn't noticeable to start with.

Anyway, worst case scenario is that JB has been called upon to ghost write Senator Lleyenholm's memoirs, Liberty For Most, and keeps getting instructed to redraft, but with 'more 'splosions, dammit!'

FormerlyKnownAsSimon reckons...

Posted August 16
Besides - a time travelling brown coach can fit more people in it. Couches can maybe fit 10 max.

NBlob has opinions thus...

Posted August 16
There is that.

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jason has opinions thus...

Posted August 16
Where is JB you ask?

Did no one notice the planetary alignment this week (literally not metaphorically). JB is out there planet hopping as part of the research for his new space opera. By now he is halfway to Uranus.

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w from brisbane mutters...

Posted August 16
http://www.gifbin.com/bin/052011/1304618376_tumbleweed-gif.gif

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NBlob mutters...

Posted August 16
Sources GLOMAR (neither confirm nor deny) JB was Kevin's fly in The UNSecGen Oyster. While some contend aledge &/or imply JB wants the slot for himself, others better informed suggest he is backing the Mrs Lee candidacy, just hasn't worked out how to tell Havoc.

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NBlob mumbles...

Posted August 19
Taptap pause tap pause taptaptap.

Either JB is being held prisoner, or the moron tap an apple choir is rehearsing

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