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A golden era of time travelling Aussie SF?

Posted October 2, 2014 into Movies by John Birmingham

Something weird is happening to Australian cinema. It's starting to make films you might actually want to see. iO9 has a brief story this week about the teaser for a 'confusing and awesome' looking effort called Terminus.

Meanwhile, these two indie productions caught my eye for a couple of reasons. They're both time travel films, both locally made, but one is very Australian, and the other (apart from an appearance by Noah Taylor) looks like mid budget independent US sci fi. (Like Terminus, but also Daybreakers). The Predestination producers are doing what I do – what a lot of Australian writers do, actually – and just writing for the international, rather than the local, market.

The Infinite Man, meanwhile, looks a lot thinkier, and very parochial, but not in a bad way. It's more of a time loop than a time travel story.

I'll catch them both, when I can.

19 Responses to ‘A golden era of time travelling Aussie SF?’

ShaneAlpha mutters...

Posted October 2, 2014
You'll need to hurry if you want to see Predestination in Brisbane JB, it's gone from 2 cinemas to 1 (Blue Room Cinebar at Bardon) and only one session per day.

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WarDog mumbles...

Posted October 2, 2014
Thanks ShaneAlpha. Who's up for Predestination Saturday or Sunday 4:20pm at Cinebar?

Anyone got a line on where "The Infinite Man" is/will be showing in Brisbane?

Terminus looks good too, but it's not out till next year.

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Blarkon reckons...

Posted October 2, 2014
's not really FKN art unless someone shunts a whole carrier battle group through a worm hole which ends up kicking Hitler's arse.

John Birmingham mutters...

Posted October 2, 2014
Point.

NBlob mutters...

Posted October 2, 2014
In A year of living dangerously the Billy Kwan says "Pornography is in focus, art out."

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Macca mumbles...

Posted October 2, 2014
Predestination is superb but dont be tempted to google anything about the story its based on "all you zombies"as it'll spoil many of the films surprises

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damian puts forth...

Posted October 2, 2014
Aussie time-travel SF started with Riddle of the Trumpalar. When that book came out in 1981, I was 11 and lived about 150 metres from its Trumper Park setting. Which in retrospect is a pretty privileged position, and I suppose I have no excuse not to be a famous SF author by now. Well bugger.

Darth Greybeard mumbles...

Posted October 3, 2014
Tempted to insert a Nelson Muntz "Ha Ha" at this point. But no . . .

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Barnesm has opinions thus...

Posted October 2, 2014
And where does Tom Burlingson in aussie scifi The Time Guardian sit in this collection?

Barnesm would have you know...

Posted October 2, 2014
and in case anyone has forgotten this film here is the plot from Wikipedia

In the year 4039, a city of survivors from the Neutron Wars travels through time and space escaping the Jen-Diki, a race of cyborgs intent on wiping out humanity. Two soldiers from the city, Ballard and Petra, are transported to the South Australian outback in 1988 to prepare a landing site for the city. Petra is wounded and Ballard seeks help from geologist Annie Lassite. An advance party of Jen-Diki arrive in Australia.

<font color="#252525" face="sans-serif">another literary gem</font>

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she_jedi has opinions thus...

Posted October 2, 2014
Predestination blew my mind, it was superb storytelling. It's from the team that did Daybreakers, who are well and truly kicking arse and taking names for Australian cinema. Go see it if you can and please come back and tell us what you thought :)

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Paul_Nicholas_Boylan puts forth...

Posted October 3, 2014
Few things (other than exotic sex acts, new ways to use tofu, and lots and lots of sudden disposable cash) are more exciting than well made indigenous cinema with a distinct cultural viewpoint. The apparently strong possibilities that this is happening in Oz is wonderful - especially if the push is into science fiction.

But let's not get ahead of ourselves. The trailers referenced above - especially Terminus - demonstrates a magnificent talent at making trailers. They are called "teasers" for a reason. Far too often, teasers advertise films that don't exist and build excitement that ultimately is not satisfied - leading to binge drinking and domestic disputes among those who hoped for more.

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WarDog asserts...

Posted October 3, 2014
Don't forget the very fun Aussie time travel film As Time Goes By http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094680/ with Max Gillies as the alien "Joe Bogart". 1988 so after

Barnesm mumbles...

Posted October 3, 2014

really good fun film, "you were all eating shushi, and you didn't like it".

Must get it out for the_weapon to watch combine it with The Time Guardian and make it a double bill.

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ShaneAlpha puts forth...

Posted October 3, 2014
And let's not forget the small screen.
"The Girl from Tomorrow" is fondly remembered by Oz school kids of a certain age.

Barnesm ducks in to say...

Posted October 3, 2014
and also include the Australia TV series Andra from 1976

Surtac puts forth...

Posted October 3, 2014


Anybody else remember Wandjina?

Barnesm is gonna tell you...

Posted October 3, 2014
Nope

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Murphy mutters...

Posted October 3, 2014
The second video reminded me of my year in Korea assigned to a Signal Battalion, in all the worst possible ways.

Thank God I transferred to the Infantry.

Respects,
Murph
On the Outer Marches

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HULK SMASH FILM CRITIQUES

Posted September 27, 2014 into Movies by John Birmingham

I've been meaning to (1) write something about Guardians of the Galaxy, which we took the kids to and very much enjoyed a few weeks back, and (2) point y'all towards my favorite film critic ever.

THE FKN HULK.

But I can probbably do both just by pointing at the green giant's breakdown of Guardians.

It helps if you read it in SHOUTY HULK VOICE.

SO. YOU MAY HAVE NOTICED BUT AUDIENCES ARE KIND OF GOING NUTS OVER GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY .

FOR GOOD REASON, TOO. HULK FOUND IT TO BE A REALLY FUNNY, ENTERTAINING MOVIE THAT PROVIDES US WITH A BEVY OF NOT-TECHNICALLY-NEW-BUT-FEEL-NEW CHARACTERS THAT ARE PRETTY DAMN LOVEABLE. AND WHILE SUCH BLATANT ATTEMPTS AT CHARM TEND TO FALL FLAT IN OTHER FILMS, THAT WHOLE "REALLY FUNNY" THING IS WHAT REALLY ELEVATES THIS ONE. THE HUMOR REALLY STICKS, DOESN'T IT? FOR THE LAST WEEK HULK'S SEEN PEOPLE RECITING ALL THEIR FAVORITE QUOTES OVER AND OVER AGAIN (PERHAPS HELPED OUT BY THE FACT THAT THERE ARE SO MANY QUOTABLE LINES). HECK, IT'S ALREADY THE TUMBLR MOVIE OF THE YEAR... STILL, AS WITH ANY FILM, THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE LEFT SCRATCHING THEIR HEADS AS TO WHY GUARDIANS HAS HAD SUCH IMMEDIATE RESONANCE, LARGELY BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOTICED A NUMBER OF AREAS WHERE THE FILM IS PERCEPTIBLY LACKING, WHETHER IT BE SOME OF THE CONVOLUTED PLOTTING, THE ON-THE-NOSE EXPLANATIONS OF MOTIVATION, A FEW DRAMATIC BEATS FEELING THIN, OR EVEN THE SAMEY-FEELING MCGUFFINISM IT HAS TO OTHER MARVEL MOVIES. THESE ARE INDEED VALID OBSERVATIONS, BUT WHAT HULK WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST IS THAT THEY ARE ALSO UTTER PROOF OF HOW LITTLE THOSE ASPECTS CAN (SOMETIMES) MATTER TO THE OVERALL QUALITY AND AFFECTATION OF A GIVEN FILM.

Also, his stomping of the latest Transformers movie is a thing of brutal beauty.

But, yeah, Guardians, I really liked it. And now the kids are playing 70s funk on a never ending loop.

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HAVOCK21 has opinions thus...

Posted September 27, 2014
ROCKET is the FKN BOMB. As soon as I seen the trailer I WENT ....FK YEAH! and the retro soundtrack kicks fkn arse!

John Birmingham puts forth...

Posted September 27, 2014
Whoa! Is that you MR HULK?

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan mumbles...

Posted September 27, 2014
If they are one and the same, it would certainly explain a lot.

Barnesm swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted September 27, 2014
I am no longer able to read Havock without picturing the comments coming from a small anthropomorphic raccoon.

Darth Greybeard ducks in to say...

Posted September 27, 2014
What took you so long?

HAVOCK21 ducks in to say...

Posted September 27, 2014
BARNSM....THATS FKN ARMED!...YEAH BABY!

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Paul_Nicholas_Boylan would have you know...

Posted September 27, 2014
Loved GOTG.

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Barnesm is gonna tell you...

Posted September 27, 2014
It was interesting that that soundtrack was the envy of little idie producers anywhere because to get those songs for the soundtrack would have cost the producers a bomb.

I've been a fan of Hulk's reviews for a while. Regarding GOTG I just want to say DRAX the Destroyer ROCKS and We ARE GROOT!!!!

Now I just need to go back to listening to 'Hooked on a feeling'

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TheWah would have you know...

Posted September 27, 2014
I have seen it three times.

First Time - Well, it was the thing to see, yasee?
Second Time - I was so surprised how much I liked it I went back to see if it stood up to a second scrutiny. It did
Third Time - Many weeks later, because I wanted to watch something that would make me happy.

GotG is a sci-fi action comedy with heart and it's great.

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TheWah mumbles...

Posted September 27, 2014
One weird point - The OBSCENE GESTURE ALERT gag seen in the above picture does not make it into the movie. You actually see StarLord's obscene gesture. This is sad as the OBSCENE GESTURE ALERT is funnier than the actual obscene gesture. One of the rare times when the censored version of a gag is better than the uncensored.

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AuntyLou is gonna tell you...

Posted September 27, 2014
Took my sad little self to the motion pictures while my automobile was repaired & decided to see this Galaxy thingy. Nearly burst my girdle! What a lovely way to spend some time in the dark!! Now need to convince my significant other that "crazy people in space with 70's soundtrack" is entirely worth the time/dosh. Absolutely must see multiple times...

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S.M. Stirling is gonna tell you...

Posted September 28, 2014
Agreed, it's a masterpiece.

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DNABeast has opinions thus...

Posted September 29, 2014
I hate reading in all caps. I read the whole thing and my brain didn't grab any of it. It was like I need the jagged ascenders and descenders for it to get trapped long enough to grok.

When it's all in caps it's just big blocks falling through a square hole.

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Dead Snow 2; the sequel you did nazi coming

Posted September 23, 2014 into Movies by John Birmingham

The first Dead Snow was pretty good. I mean, undead Nazis, hard to top right?

Apparently not.

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Rob has opinions thus...

Posted September 23, 2014
ah cool its that nerd who drank the switched beer from freaks and geeks.

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WarDog mutters...

Posted September 23, 2014
Awesome, glad the sequeled this.

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WarDog puts forth...

Posted September 23, 2014
On another note, Hulu is making Mr King's 11-22-63 http://www.engadget.com/2014/09/22/hulu-11-22-63-original-series

John Birmingham mumbles...

Posted September 23, 2014
Yep, meant to write a little entry about that.

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GhostSwirv would have you know...

Posted September 23, 2014
Rather enjoyed Dead Snow - the sequel looks choice, reminds me a little of Brian Lumley's Necroscope - whereby Harry, the Necroscope revives a dead Cossack army to fight a cadre of Russian psy-ops spies. God I wish someone would make the first 7 books into some kind of vampire Game of Thrones series.

SZF is gonna tell you...

Posted September 24, 2014
Much as I'd love to see a decent Necroscope on a screen somewhere, the cynic in me suspects it would be more like the film adaptation of F Paul Wilson's The Keep.

Loved the book which scared me silly in my teens, and a young Michael Mann directing had a cast of Jurgen Pronchow, Scott Glenn, Gandalf and Uther Fucking Pendragon - and STILL it was a hot mess. It couldn't even be saved by trippy Tangerine Dream (!?!?!?) soundtrack...

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Barnesm would have you know...

Posted September 23, 2014
speaking of undead

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Barnesm ducks in to say...

Posted September 23, 2014
also Birmo loved the pun.

Lulu puts forth...

Posted September 24, 2014
Agreed; awesome pun.

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Rhino ducks in to say...

Posted September 24, 2014
The last line of the trailer pretty much sums up 'Murica's view of most countries in Europa Federalis.

Looks fun.

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Paul_Nicholas_Boylan reckons...

Posted September 24, 2014
Looks great, especially for a US $35 million production budget.

I know this is a digression, but, speaking of good, cheap movies, I highly recommend Dragonfyre (2013) - a very little magic v. tech film that does the most with a low budget (est USA $3,100,000 - more than ten times less than Dead Snow 2)) than any film I've seen in a very, very long time. Lots of fun. Orcs v. American rural good old boys (sound familiar?). Automatic weapons v. swords. It even has a dragon.

Right now on Netflix. Makes me wonder what the writier/director could do with more money.

w from brisbane mumbles...

Posted September 24, 2014
I watched that movie and enjoyed it, PNB. The ex-Special Forces guy, with the help of some locals, confronting bands of Orcs coming thru a gate between the worlds and up to no good.

It has little budget, but that can be a relief. if you don't mind this sort of movie, it is enjoyable. The hero lead actor is particularly good, as is the head orc.

Some of it is of course, very silly, but it pleasingly avoids being ironic or tongue in cheek about it. Rather, the production seems jovial about enjoying those moments. I liked that.

damian reckons...

Posted September 24, 2014
Just the trailer reminds me quite a bit of Bad Taste, a movie made in NZ in the 80s by a young Peter Jackson. Which is also totally worth watching if you can find it over the water there.

Anyhow, that leaves the question about "what the writer/director could do with more money" on the table without any specific answer, just a general impression.

Barnesm puts forth...

Posted September 24, 2014
Now that Margret and David Stratton are finishing up at the movie show. Any chance we could get prof Boylan to provide movie reviews? The question is who could possibly play Ying to prof Boylan's Yang, (don't be rude).

w from brisbane reckons...

Posted September 24, 2014
Barnesm, I think there is an obvious choice for PNB's co-reviewer and that would be PNB's wife. She would add intellectual weight and probably better jokes :)

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan asserts...

Posted September 24, 2014
My wife hates the movies I like - with the exception of Guardians of the Galaxy. For the most part, she is very happy to let me go and see them alone.

But Barnesy is right: her jokes would be better.

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan would have you know...

Posted September 24, 2014
Actually, W made the observation about my wife's superior sense of humour. Sorry about that, W.

w from brisbane mumbles...

Posted September 24, 2014
Just kidding, PNB. I hope I wasn't out of line. Your posts are often brilliant and amusing, just whenever you have quoted your wife, it's usually a pretty astute and funny observation.

Darth Greybeard reckons...

Posted September 24, 2014
No, no w from b, I've met the inestimable Mrs Boylan. She is a woman of great fortitude, patience, wit and humour. Well, she'd have to be wouldn't she?

NBlob swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted September 24, 2014
But she's a mean drunk.

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan ducks in to say...

Posted September 24, 2014
And she has a knife. She calls it a "shank." I don't question it.

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Therbs swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted September 24, 2014

I reckon Havsy as the Ying. Put those two together and it would be a total ratingsapalooza. And I mean that in a relaxed and unalarmed way.

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Darth Greybeard ducks in to say...

Posted September 24, 2014
Only seen the trailer for Dead Snow 2. "Good news! We found your arm."

Maybe a tag line like "Better Red when Dead?

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Bondiboy66 mumbles...

Posted September 24, 2014
Zombies and Nazis. Kind of rolls off the tongue really. A bit like Space Nazis ala Iron Sky (although I think that film kind of missed the mark a tad).

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iO9 loves Guardians of the Galaxy

Posted August 4, 2014 into Movies by John Birmingham

Gotta say I've been looking forward to this flick in a big way. The trailers have been tempting and now the crits are in... and they seem pretty much in agreement that this is one of the stand outs of the year.

My fave so far is this from iO9 which is a gloriously spoiler free celebration of the latest Marvel franchise.

So yeah, Guardians of the Galaxy is dripping with nostalgia, for space opera and Baby Boomer pop music, and for funny action movies. For stories about friends having an adventure together, all of that.

The word "nostalgia," of course, means "pain." Specifically, the pain of yearning for a lost home. (In the same way that "neuralgia" is "nerve pain.")

And there's definitely an undercurrent of sadness and hurt going through this, which the "Awesome Mix" pop soundtrack helps to bring to the surface. But the wounded undertone also shows up in keenly observed moments where Rocket or Drax reveals a hidden misery. Of the five misfits, Groot is the only one who's not deeply damaged, and his friendliness helps throw the scars of his comrades into relief.

That undertone of sadness does a lot to help the film achieve a consistent tone, with all the weird elements in the mix. (You could write a whole essay on the importance of "undertone" to "tone," actually.)

Part of what Guardians does that's clever is throw you in the deep end pretty much from the beginning — Peter Quill is the only Earthling in the film, and he's grown up in space, so he's totally familiar with spaceports, blasters and alien sex. Peter Quill is already Star-Lord pretty much at the start of the movie, and he knows his way around.

This mirrors our own familiarity with these kinds of stories (everybody's at least seen Star Wars), and flies in the face of conventional wisdom that space-opera needs to keep at least one foot on the ground at all times. But it also allows the movie to speak directly to our yearning for classic adventure stories, by playing with the familiar elements without any lengthy preamble.

And in all those shots where Peter Quill's ship, the Milano, is flying through some holy-shit-cosmic vistas, to the accompaniment of some 1960s or 1970s anthem, I feel like this film is doing something pretty complicated. We're up to our neck in the spacey wonder, but the music is tethering us to Earth and to Peter Quill's emotional backstory — and also, reminding us that we've seen this shit before in classic space operas. Instead of holding your hand, writer-director James Gunn gives you syncopated hand-claps. And some cowbell.

Totes worth a read. And a watch.

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Dino not to be confused with has opinions thus...

Posted August 4, 2014
Yeah but no JB.
I don't know this work.
Saw the trailer.
There's this little kid who talks to marmets or mamosets.
Makes me cry.
Big Mistake.
f'air'fuucks is my enemy now.
One year?
Two or three?
May they boil in the excrement of Gina and 'Perpetyual' and Andrew Bolt.
High Class.
As for the computer shit.
"Ladies, you aint seen nothin yet"

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TheWah puts forth...

Posted August 4, 2014
That is a rather sombre and serious trailer for what is actually a very fun, rollicking space adventure

The first trailer is still the best..

It's a fun movie

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Nocturnalist asserts...

Posted August 4, 2014
Saw this with the GF last night and we both loved it. It packed out the cinema and then had the whole audience laughing and cheering; we both had big dumb grins on our faces for ages afterwards. Wonderful time, well worth taking in on the big screen.

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Barnesm asserts...

Posted August 5, 2014

There has been a great deal of positve for this film. Rotton Tomatos giving it big thumbs up. I am off this friday to see it with the_weapon. The best quip I have seen regarding the film is from Aaron Diaz author of The Dresden Codax webcomix. 'Guardians of the galaxy' is the first Star Wars film since 1983.


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insomniac would have you know...

Posted August 5, 2014
Even the ultimate antiscifi being, ms insomniac, mentioned that it might be fun, although after the "August: Osage County" incident it's unlikely that we will venture to the moving pictures any time soon.

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Paul_Nicholas_Boylan would have you know...

Posted August 5, 2014
I really enjoyed this film - and my wife didn't fall asleep during any of it.

Full theatre. Applause at the end. A good experience.

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Lobes reckons...

Posted August 5, 2014
I've heard nothing but good reports on this movie but still dont think I can get my suspension of disbelief past a space raccoon.

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan ducks in to say...

Posted August 6, 2014
I went into this with the same mindset - but worse because I've read the comics, and the character was awful, a play on "rocky raccoon" and an attempt to play to the youth movement.

Dumb, dumber and dumberer.

Those responsible for this film fixed all that.


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axle60610 asserts...

Posted August 5, 2014
nice
but the new Nolan movie Interstellar looks more like the tear jerking save the world kind.. not a bad trailer..
http://www.interstellar-movie.com/
some reasonable actors as well..

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ShaneAlpha asserts...

Posted August 5, 2014
Went to Guardians in 2 D last week. Will be going to see the 3 D this weekend.

A great movie, deeply reminded me of seeing Star Wars in '77 as a primary school kid. Loved the soundtrack so much I came home and purchased "Awesome Mix Tape #1" from the iTunes and have been rocking it in my car all week.

The post credits scene will make only the comic book nerds laugh. younger ones will probably ask "who the f**k is that?"

It's serious, fun, colourful space awesome, with a side dish of even more awesome.

Barnesm swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted August 5, 2014
"who the f**k is that?" does is rhyme with 'something to pluck'?

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan reckons...

Posted August 6, 2014
It sure as fuck does.

I felt it was the perfect ending. It poked fun at the big marvel post credits bonus scene previewing future movies.

Is it Avengers 2?

Could it be (be still my beating heart) Guardians 2??

No. It was Howard the Duck drinking martinis with the Collector - both trapped in a world they never made.

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damian ducks in to say...

Posted August 5, 2014
Yeah it looks awesome and all that. But what's with the ADHD in the trailer? It's all friggin' half second jump cuts. Maybe I'm getting old, but I find it loud and confusing.

Now I want to know how to keep those darn kids off my lawn

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w from brisbane would have you know...

Posted August 5, 2014
I haven't seen the film. or watched the trailer. But looking at the still, that Green Skinned Space Babe is such a classic TV trope.

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan ducks in to say...

Posted August 6, 2014
Yes, but unlike the typical green skinned space babe, this one refuses to succumb to the hero's pelvic sorcery.

Darth Greybeard has opinions thus...

Posted August 6, 2014
"pelvic sorcery"? You have a way with words Paul. I do not say that it is a good way, but it is a way.

w from brisbane mumbles...

Posted August 6, 2014
Though, in the classic form of the green skinned space babe, it is she who is the pelvic sorcerer.

The green skinned space babe stereotype is such a simple solution to a problem.

You've got a hot chick, but she is to play an alien.

Problem: she needs to look like an alien, but she's still got to be hot. You don't want to ugly up the face, or interfere with the clear view of her....umm....errr....assets.
Solution: Let's just paint her green and stick her in a really tight dress.
Brilliant! And if you've got something that works, why change the formula?

Though, sometimes you do see the blue variation.

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan ducks in to say...

Posted August 6, 2014
Actually, that is my wife's only criticism:
"Where was she getting all those hot outfits?"

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan asserts...

Posted August 6, 2014
Greybeard - not my words: hers. Go see the film.

I do have a way with words (I am the bloke who coined the phrase "orgasmic hoodlum sundae") but I wish I could write as well as the team that wrote the screenplay for GotG.

Dino not to be confused with mumbles...

Posted August 6, 2014
Have Pelvis.
Need Work.
Or incantations...

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Rhino has opinions thus...

Posted August 8, 2014
This movie is Rhino Approved.

Watched it in 3D at a movie tavern - so got to drink liter mugs of beer and eat "Irish" nachos (chips with melted cheddar topped with bacon and Bleu cheese. Of course, being a theatre they marketed them as Boondock Saints Nachos).

That was just about movie nirvana. The only thing missing was a cigar.

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan asserts...

Posted August 8, 2014
It is comments like this that make the Rhino one of the few people on this mudball I envy.

And hate, just a little bit. Fuck you for making my life feel pedestrian in comparison.

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Trashman mutters...

Posted August 9, 2014
Saw it last weekend in 3D. Fab!
Great effects, great action and lots of laughs.

Hope it does as well as The Avengers.

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Dino not to be confused with ducks in to say...

Posted August 11, 2014
Watched it Yesterday.
Dumb Cunt covered in incomplete tatts drank an oversized Coca cola and 44gallon drum of 'popcorn'.
Swore at the end when Howard the Duck was manifest.
"GET FUCKED".
Loud enough for all the little kids to hear.
I let him go.
The hooked nosed know it all.
Chickenshit Hoyts Proxy.
Sucked a Camels dick later.
That's what they do...

Dino not to be confused with mutters...

Posted August 11, 2014
Oh I give it a seven.
Four for accuracy and three for music.

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Prelude to Axanar

Posted August 1, 2014 into Movies by John Birmingham

I ran the trailer for this a while ago and peeps seemed to like it. Now there's a 21 min feature at Kickstarter which is well worth a look.

Can't embed it here, sorry, but you can follow the link.

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Blarkon mutters...

Posted August 1, 2014
The Enterprise was built at Earth - in the original series and in the Abrams reboot. Not bloody Axanar.

Structure owes a lot to Ken Burns.

Barnesm ducks in to say...

Posted August 1, 2014
I didn't think they we specifically saying the Enterprise was built at Axanar, just that was were the new Heavy Cruiser, which looks a lot like the Constitution Class of which the Enterprise was one. They could build the USS Constitution at Axanar and the Enterprise subsequently built at Earth.

w from brisbane asserts...

Posted August 1, 2014
Wikipedia says
But according to The Making of Star Trek "the Enterprise-class starships have been in existence for about forty years" at the time of the original series. The ship's components were built at the Starfleet Division of the San Francisco Navy Yards and assembled in orbit.

So, they could perhaps justify that bit.

Murphy_of_Missouri mutters...

Posted August 2, 2014
To retcon is not the worst thing in the world though the registry clearly shows NCC-1701. If they followed convention then what we should see is NX-1700 of the U.S.S. Constitution. Once it went into service that would change to NCC-1700 followed on by others.

I think I'd tweak that bit accordingly in the film.
Further, just as the Klingons had three shipyards working on the D-7s, the Federation could have had multiple sites working on the ship as well.

Overall, out of all of the fan based productions, I like this one the best.

Respects,
Murph
On the Outer Marches

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Barnesm mumbles...

Posted August 1, 2014
all nerdisms aside I think Prelude to Ananar looks brilliant. I am going to throw some cash their way at the next round of kickstarter for the project.

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Rhino is gonna tell you...

Posted August 2, 2014
Watched that yesterday ... someone, (maybe Murph?), had it linked on FB.

The hero captain guy seems a bit mild mannered though....

Murphy_of_Missouri puts forth...

Posted August 2, 2014
Mild mannered folks are always the most dangerous.

I linked the twenty minute version this afternoon so I doubt it was me.

Respects,
Murph
On the Outer Marches

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Paul_Nicholas_Boylan is gonna tell you...

Posted August 2, 2014
How fucking cool was that?

This is what I've been going on about for years: the advent of independent, self financed media productions that just make my life better and better.

Blarkon ducks in to say...

Posted August 2, 2014
Except that no one is *earning* money doing this. It's high-tech amateur theatre.

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan mutters...

Posted August 3, 2014
I don't see how that is a valid critique. It may be high-tech amateur theatre, but it is really, really good high-tech amateur theatre impossible until very recently.

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MickH mumbles...

Posted August 2, 2014
That was brilliant!
I have long lamented the fact that there has never been a Star Trek movie that shows off the military 'fleet' style of conflict in any detail.
This looks like it.
I'm in.

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Darth Greybeard mumbles...

Posted August 2, 2014
Yep, I'm in too. Good to see Richard Hatch as a Klingon btw.

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AuntyLou mumbles...

Posted August 2, 2014
Love, love, love it! And I love the new smart tele that lets me watch it in comfort!! Just yell at me if I am wrong, but...the new class of battleship was built in TIME for the the battle of Axanar...not at AT Axanar.
Axanar was chosen for its position not for proximity to the new ships. Or I got it all wrong. Nothing new in that. Sorry Blarkon. Love it anyway. Just wish my hubby liked the 'splody goodness like me :)

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Darth Greybeard reckons...

Posted August 3, 2014
A bit OT but a fine example of a fan tribute to another TV classic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eak26ohx1Y8

Japanese Doctor Who vs Dalekor (you fiend!) and his Cyber-ninjas. Lucky the Doctor had his Sonic Screw Sword.

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Trashman is gonna tell you...

Posted August 3, 2014
Extremely cool looking. Donation made.

This is the first time I've backed a Kickstarter, but after seeing what the Veronica Mars Kickstarter achieved - I think it's definitely worth it.

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Murphy_of_Missouri mutters...

Posted August 4, 2014
Anyone notice who the listed narrator was at the start?

Familiar name to Trekkies.

Respects,
Murph
On the Outer Marches

Trashman reckons...

Posted August 4, 2014
Nope - had a look & couldn't see it. Who was it?

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan is gonna tell you...

Posted August 4, 2014
I recognized it immediately - Rula Lenska, star of stage and screen.

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Murphy asserts...

Posted August 5, 2014
Federation Historian John Gil.

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Murph
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Trashman would have you know...

Posted August 6, 2014
Nice. Somebody put some serious thought into this!

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Therbs puts forth...

Posted August 5, 2014

Could they flog copies on iTunes/Amazon/website or on dvd? I'd be willing to buy dvd's.

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Prelude to Axanar

Posted July 2, 2014 into Movies by John Birmingham

There might never be another official Star Trek series, despite recent rumours, but it's beginning to seem as though that won't matter; there's so much indie fan talent doing their own thing with Roddenberry's story world. No idea how that works with intellectual property law, but it does seem to work.

Having enjoyed Star Trek Continues Ep 3, I was stoked to find this pop up in my news aggregators a while back. A feature-length kickstarter about the Klingon-Federation war that predates ST-TOS.

The production values are great. I hope they can build from this teaser into a full length movie.

But now, back to the deadline.

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Blarkon swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted July 2, 2014
The rule is that no one is to make money off the production.

John Birmingham asserts...

Posted July 2, 2014
Thought so, but how is that even possible. Look at the production values. It costs money to make. Otherwise they wouldn't be kickstarting it.

Bangar has opinions thus...

Posted July 2, 2014
It'd be making profit, though a Ferengi would figure out how ;)

Blarkon puts forth...

Posted July 2, 2014
The assumptions around that general permission were those that existed prior to the broadcast nature of internet video. When Roddenberry was thinking about it, it was badly dubbed VHS cassettes being handed between fans. As long as no one was making a profit off those cassettes, no one seemed to care.

(Roddenberry gave this sort of general permission even though he created, but did not own, Star Trek)

Today those films can be seen by millions. As long as the don't tick the box where they get revenue ... though I suspect that given that Google still gets revenue ... that the new realities of mass distribution will eventually trigger a recalibration on the part of the owners of these properties.

I guess anyone who does this sort of thing has to do it with the knowledge that should the owners ask for it to be taken down, that they don't have a leg to stand on legally.

The real pity is that you have all these creative and talented people who aren't creating their own new universe and stories, but are instead farting about in the Star Trek universe making high quality fan fiction.

John Birmingham is gonna tell you...

Posted July 2, 2014
The other pity is the market which exists for this farting around, not being serviced by the mainstream production houses.

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan would have you know...

Posted July 3, 2014
Respectfully disagree. This farting around provides the experience needed to transition into mini production houses that will challenge the mainstream production houses - even if it is similar to the death of a thousand cuts. These mini production companies won't produce commercial Trek material, but their advent will result in more general content created by people who know what they are doing. There will always be mega productions. What I want is more inspired, smart, independent stuff.

Blarkon mumbles...

Posted July 4, 2014
There are more people who support a middle class (or better) lifestyle as Astronauts than there are people making a middle class lifestyle creating content for YouTube. That should give you an idea of the future of independent production.

You're either insanely successful, or you are faffing about forever in someone's garage. The small independent productions that existed even a few years ago are disappearing. Those are the ones that are necessary to support those "small production houses".

Spielberg talked a bit about it in some of the interviews he gave around Lincoln - that even he had trouble getting funding for a small production that wasn't going to cost much.

I think it was someone talking with Kevin Smith about his film Clerks, which Smith made on a shoestring. This person mentioned that for more than a decade, the average person has had access to high quality production movie making and editing equipment. And even though access to the means of production have been "democratized" - there has been very few breakout high quality independent films. The cheap to make "Clerks" type films have almost disappeared.

(it doesn't help that something like Clerks could be discovered at the video store - whereas today something is likely to be discovered on torrent - which doesn't lead to the original creators getting paid)

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Therbs swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted July 2, 2014
That looks the goods. Hope they get it done.

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John Birmingham has opinions thus...

Posted July 2, 2014
Nice work, Dino. Keeping it simple. Now, concentrate and maintain.

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John Birmingham asserts...

Posted July 3, 2014
I'm talking about TV not film

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w from brisbane swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted July 3, 2014
The Klingon Kharn is played by Richard Hatch from the original Battlestar Gallatica.
Captain Sonya Alexander is played by Kate Vernon who was Ellen Tigh in the second Battlestar Gallatica.
So there is a lot of space travel experience on the flight decks.

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pi reckons...

Posted July 3, 2014
OT, but some admin needs to take a wee look into the solar project forum. spamalam.

insomniac mutters...

Posted July 3, 2014
I've just lost thousands of dollars and seen things no one should see

Therbs is gonna tell you...

Posted July 3, 2014
Spam shields need more powaaahhh!

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Lulu puts forth...

Posted July 3, 2014
I cannae hold her any longer captain the spam shield is gonna blow!

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted July 4, 2014
The spam shields held!

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Murphy_of_Missouri puts forth...

Posted July 4, 2014
I gotta say this trailer looks pretty good. I saw it about a month or so ago. These fan based, Kickstarter funded efforts are getting better with each cycle.

Respects,
Murph
On the Outer Marches

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BrianC ducks in to say...

Posted July 10, 2014
First of yeah im back.

Secondly. fuck JJ Abrahams. He ruined Trek in the second film he did. Its not trek any more its trek wars.

Thirdly. More of this type of thing. Simply smashing. Backed.

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Hope Hope mumbles...

Posted September 2, 2014
Remember, it's not too late to donate to Star Trek Axanar feature film via Paypal - You'll receive the same great perks for your donation level as were offered in the feature flim's Kickstarter - it's not too late!!! donate@StarTrekAxanar.com - Qapla'!! :)

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