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Burger Lite

Posted January 31 by John Birmingham

Been a while since we've done one of these check-ins. I've been following Murph's swimming routine, and Jennicki's general awesomeness over on the Book of Face, and every now and then I run into a lean and hungry looking MonsterYuppy on the streets of New Farm. So some of you are fighting the good fight.

Myself, I'm about four kgs overweight and looking to cut that down this year. I had a very heavy publishing schedule last year, getting the ebook business up and running, which meant that I didn't get myself up and running, or lifting weights or doing much of anything that I should have been.

The saving grace? I wasn't drinking last year either, and now that I'm back on the booze, I'm keeping it moderate. I did wonder if that'd be impossible but it turns out that not drinking for a year teaches you how to keep a rein on your thirst.

I've also been grading for my brown belt which has recently meant a lot of ground work and hours and hours of throws. I wish I could wear a fitness tracker onto the mat, but that's verboten so I just have to guestimate the calorie burn. Heaps seems about right. We hit it so hard last Saturday that I couldn't really sleep that night. My body was shaking and aching too much. I felt every one of my 103 years.

Good times.

Now the kids are back at school I'll revert to my usual routine of going to the gym at lunchtime 2-3 days a week in addition to the jujitsu training. Hopefully, with some chicken salads that'll get me back to my fighting weight by winter.

And you?

66 Responses to ‘Burger Lite’

Aaron asserts...

Posted February 2
Two kids under 2.5 years full time work and study means very unfit but always kept a good diet and little booze thank Lordy. Would like to embrace swimming for my aging body so if murph would like to share his tips I am all ears.

Murphy_of_Missouri mutters...

Posted February 3
What would you like to know?

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Miss Maudy has opinions thus...

Posted February 2
I have been indulging in mindful consumption and yeah, lost about 6kg without depriving myself of cake and pizza. I've also cut back on the wine, but that was an accident. I nearly need new pants. Or a belt.

John Birmingham ducks in to say...

Posted February 2
Six kilos??? Respect!

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insomniac ducks in to say...

Posted February 2
Still creeping up slowly. Probably about 20 too many. I really need to kick myself in the pants. I will have corporate games later this year so there is some sort of goal. I'm trying no alcohol this year but I don't/didn't drink that much to start with so I haven't noticed yet.

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balri puts forth...

Posted February 2
I went back to full time work last May after 7 years of being a stay at home dad. The exercise disappeared and beers became a nightly thing.

After reading your article, I decided to get off the booze for at least six months. I haven't had a drink since NYE and have lost a couple of kilos.

I've also made a commitment to do some form of measurable exercise every day for at least 30 minutes. Usually that's walking but sometimes swimming, running, cycling or kayaking. I missed a day last week when I was sick but apart from that it's going well.

Now I just have to improve my eating which still includes too much crap. I am trying to cut down on my portion sizes though.

John Birmingham has opinions thus...

Posted February 2
Yeah, the booze is a fucking killer for empty calories. Delicious empty calories.

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FormerlyKnownAsSimon ducks in to say...

Posted February 2
I looked at the scales recently and despaired. Clothes starting to get a bit tight so decided to up the exercise a bit. Which means definitely walking the dogs every day and including something that i never did before: running. Only small sections but there are some hills involved. Watching food a little bit as well. But for a few years now i seem to have a pattern of holding weight through the year - hit the festive months and it jumps up a step. Hold for a year and repeat.

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dweeze mumbles...

Posted February 2
When I was training hard for my brown belt in Yoshinkhan Aikido, I took a year and a half off the grog. I was a hopeless lush before that break but have been able to moderate my drinking quite easily for the 20 years since. Unfortunately, I trashed my knee so badly doing said training that I haven't been back on the mat since. Ooops...
And I'm only 101 old fella.

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jason is gonna tell you...

Posted February 2
Started running after an Achilles injury, Achilles was no problem but I have pulled both calf muscles. My wife tells me it is an old man's injury. I am still eating as much but feeling more guilty. I assume guilt will help with the calories.

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WarDog ducks in to say...

Posted February 2
Swimming for 20 mins every day but still 6-8 kilos over. Have new impetus now that I'm due to become a parent in the next few weeks.

But sill can't shift it.

FormerlyKnownAsSimon reckons...

Posted February 2
My partners doc was saying that swimming is okay as long as you watch what you eat afterwards - as you are immersed in water your body temp is lowered and you get hungrier (as opposed to other out of water exercise). Makes sense but haven't put it to the test.

John Birmingham swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted February 3
Whoa, Wardog! Another kid? You're a machine.

Gilligan asserts...

Posted February 6
In 2011, our impending first munchkin got me on the C25K running app when I realised I was approaching dirigible dimensions with 0 cardio endurance and a family history of Type 2 diabetes and heart problems.

Fast forward and I'm down from about 108kgs to around 86 (86.3 as of this morning) and I can comfortably (for a given value of "comfortable") run 10kms.

Turns out I like running. Who knew?

I keep having moments where I wonder what 20 year old me would think if I told him I'd get to the stage where I consider 5km a quick run. :)

John Birmingham would have you know...

Posted February 6
They're some pretty impressive numbers, G.

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MickH mumbles...

Posted February 2
I had a severe reaction to some antibiotics last year which resulted in me losing nearly 4kgs in a very short period of time. I used that as a catalyst to doing that diet I have always been promising myself. Combine eating a lot smaller meals with moving house of Xmas equals another 2kgs lost.

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Brother PorkChop puts forth...

Posted February 2
I'm fat, bloated and lazy, and I eat too much. Hot chips are my enemy and since I've discovered the secret to thrice cooked chips, I'm somewhat addicted and heading to the fryer far too often.
Had a salad for lunch. Probably 10 KG overweight and the worst part is that I don't carry it well as much as I might kid myself.
Aside from that I am so much better than last year, its not funny.

NBlob would have you know...

Posted February 2
Testify comrade PorkChop testify!

Brother PorkChop swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted February 3
Testify to the quality of the chippies? Soft and fluffy on the inside, glassy crunchy outside. A little Trinidadian fire salt sprinkled on my bucket full and I am as happy as Donald sitting on a gaudy, ugly, gilt chair.
Testify that this year is already better than last? Easy, the black dog has been banished and I'm no longer having those fucked up cowardly thoughts that men get when well, you know.
Testify to my fatness? Yep, its there for the world to see and I need help. Maybe someone could eat half my chippies?

FormerlyKnownAsSimon reckons...

Posted February 3
I would put my hand up for that job but i know if someone tried to take half of mine they would lose said hand : )

damian puts forth...

Posted February 3
There are two fish and chip shops across the road from the caravan park at Dickie Beach, but it's only one of them that I still think does the best chips in SEQ. Name of the place escapes me just now. In terms of chips I could only identify as a seeker. Like sex, when they are good they are great and when they are bad they are better than nothing.

NBlob reckons...

Posted February 4
Dickie Beach eh?

damian has opinions thus...

Posted February 4
The one closer to the beach. Total mind-blank on the name

NBlob reckons...

Posted February 4
@BPC All of the above.
Except the Black Dog. Huzzah & huzzah again you've collared that mangy mongrel.
I'm still there.
I had a 'scene' @ work 10/16 that I know has altered the opinions of admired colleagues. >6ft, > 110kg, broad shoulders, beard & bad manners and a face full of tears is not something people respond well to.

jason ducks in to say...

Posted February 4
I have always been of the belief that people understand our problems (we all have some of them) but they judge us on how we handle our problems. The simple fact you are working on it or through it should garner you a monstrous amount of respect from your colleagues and the other people around you. The problem we might face is people not knowing how to show that support.

w from brisbane is gonna tell you...

Posted February 4
On the other hand, I think the well-known advice, "Everyone you meet is fighting a battle you know nothing about. Be kind", is pretty wise advice.

insomniac puts forth...

Posted February 4
Been there done that NBlob except no beard and I was so nuts by then I was down to 92kg after losing one a week for a couple of months.
Fuck'em I say. I'm friends with those that cared and not with those that didn't. Keep talking and if you're medicating do that too. You'll get there. I have mostly. I'm in a state I call "happy enough".

damian has opinions thus...

Posted February 4
">6ft, > 110kg, broad shoulders, beard & bad manners and a face full of tears"

By the grace of dog I'm still a little under 110kg, otherwise this is pretty much me too. But it's a struggle. If you dress like a dandy, hunch your shoulders for the men and for the women throw them back but bend your hips and knees to be a little smaller, you can infiltrate the right sorts of ideas just by not being a threat. Then you also have size as a tool in reserve. I suggest only to use it when sarcasm fails, but that might seem flippant.

NBlob mumbles...

Posted February 5
Jason, W, Sleepy & Mr D. Kind words appreciated.
For a man "of the mind" there is little worse than knowing one is being irrational.
But it can be a gateway to compassion for those I have disrespected in the past for their irrationality.

Brother PorkChop asserts...

Posted February 6
NBlob, I don't know you, wouldn't know if we'd run into or past each other, but I'm with you.
I still get these episodes just thankfully not constant. Friday I attended a funeral for a 21 year old. Incredibly sad of course but what a lass!! Gave me a bit more strength amidst the tears to keep going and to keep getting my shit together, for myself nevermind my kids.
Keep going mate!! Life is for me, all the good bits and fuck the bad bits.

jason is gonna tell you...

Posted February 6
Pretty impressed by the support being shown here. I'm in Melbourne Australia. If anyone ever feels the need for coffee and a chat I am happy to buy the coffee.

Gilligan mutters...

Posted February 6
Ditto for Canberra.

I know a great restaurant that has pizza and board games. :)

Don't have the Black Dog myself (that I'm aware of, and I suspect I would be), but I know lots of folks that do and just acknowledging it makes you all mighty. Keep on keeping on, and remember how awesome you all are. :)

insomniac is gonna tell you...

Posted February 6
Jason, that moment has to be one where you could never be more alone, even if, as in my case, I had people who cared around.

NBlob mumbles...

Posted February 6
I Caution. Triggers & soppy shit.
.

appreciate, really really appreciate the supportive words, but, when I'm in _that_ place I'd rather sledge-hammer a star picket up my own arse than talk to people. My dogs are good. Best is dark and alone.
I've never considered harming myself, but anything that takes the black dog away would be given due consideration. For me the anger at my inability to pull my shit together fuels it. I know I'm being irrational. I know it's a luxury of a first-world softc0ck. But I just can't throw it.
Stranger still is the SSRI's my Dr prescribed. When dosed up they do fill in the worst depths, but TANSTAAFL, Squid pro quo it clips the tops. Those things that would give one pleasure are profoundly staggeringly Meh. A great meal, a tasty tasty beverage, special grown ups time all meh. I don't like it, so I _With Dr's Advice_ started an exit strategy. Month by month 1 less pill per week. When I got to 3 days between pills I crashed harder than Jimmy Dean. I've never experienced anything like that. Far far far worse than ever I was before medications. So now I'm trapped. I don't like being medicated, but life is unlivable off them. Which, naturally enough gets me down.

I don't want sympathy.
I want you to know how it is for me, so if you know someone else you may have a fraction of an idea of what is going on I their head.

w from brisbane swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted February 6
Are you sleeping OK, NBlob? A psychiatrist I know says he finds poor sleep a regular feature in depression/anxiety sufferers.

NBlob puts forth...

Posted February 6
Never have.
Insomnia eats more hairy balls than Corey Bernardi.

jason is gonna tell you...

Posted February 7
Thanks NBlob. Gives me a better insight into what it must be like. Friend of mine is going through this at the moment.

He can't talk about it at all. Just gets very angry very quickly. I know some of the reasons but not all of them.

I know I cant fix it but the desire to help him through in some way is very strong. Understanding how he feels is the first step I reckon.

Gilligan reckons...

Posted February 7
The desire to help is strong, innit? Most of my mates who run out of spoons follow the blanket-burrito-on-the-couch model, so I mainly try to just touch base and let them know I'm there when/if they want/need me.

w from brisbane has opinions thus...

Posted February 7
Re: poor sleep. With anxiety and depression sufferers, for the well-regarded psychiatrist I know, finding the right pill to give the patient a good night's sleep is pretty much priority one in his treatment.

insomniac reckons...

Posted February 9
I sleeps ok

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JG is gonna tell you...

Posted February 2
Congrats on your year without alcohol and grading for your brown belt, JB. I gave up running after over three and a half years of it almost
four weeks ago. In the running years I ran two full marathons, five half marathons, and other races. Anyway, at age 53, I'm over it as haven't enjoyed running for the past 18 months. I do, however,
practise yoga, strength and core work five or six days a week, and also walk heaps. I'd like to take up swimming again,
probably when I move back to the Gold Coast
in April. Maybe also take up dancing and tai chi or
similiar. I also changed to a vegan diet a couple of weeks ago,
which is going fine. I'd planned and researched this way of eating for weeks before deciding to give this a go. Also into spiritual fitness now with meditation. All good. This is a terrific year for new beginnings.

Joanna

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Lulu is gonna tell you...

Posted February 2
I need to lose .... well, let's just say probably the equivalent of a small child or so.

I've been wearing a pedometer for the past couple of months, which confirms that I do a fair bit of walking (6000 - 10,000 steps most days), but this is not enough. I need to get back to the gym, to get fit enough to start seeing a personal trainer again.

Giving up booze isn't an option because I already don't drink anyway. I should probably cut down on the cheese though; and the chocolate. Also the peanut butter (allegedly healthy).

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Rob has opinions thus...

Posted February 2
still hadn't lost the weight from the first kid, when wife had the second one.

Wait no, I was awesome when I had kids, long hair, tanned, slim. 20 years on ... not so much.

so yeah , still over weight, but I have an exhibition in 3 weeks so I might walk down to the opening to work off the wine.

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DaveC is gonna tell you...

Posted February 2
This time last year, I was recovering from open heart surgery. It was for an aortic valve issue I'd been born with rather than a heart attack. I'd known since my mid twenties that I'd need an operation when i was 'older.' I inhaled, ingested, imbibed, and deep-fried an awful lot of unhealthy shit for near-on ten years after that. Then kids. BMI calculator said borderline obese. Stupid BMI. Ate carrots and raw broccoli for lunch. Cardiologist described me as getting 'older.' Pooped kale and raw broccoli. Ran. Stupid running. Got exercycle and wrote... and blew shit up on xbox. Awesome exercycle. Started taking the family on bush walks. Survived heart op. BMI calculator's consistently told me I'm a smidgen overweight for the last five years. Totes ok with that. Congrats to Wardog!

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NBlob ducks in to say...

Posted February 2
I may have to amend my handle.
I took on the L in Blob to indicate my girth was approaching GreyBeard dimensions. Things have not improved. As mentioned up thread a nightly tipple becomes habit forming. Then compulsory.
I'm beginning to think I need a second L.

On the upside I'm pretty much off the stinkerettes. Pretty simple really, if you don't own 'em you don't smoke 'em.

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Murphy_of_Missouri ducks in to say...

Posted February 3
I'm afraid that the stress of the last six weeks has packed the usual winter gain back onto the carcass.


What I normally do in the pool is about 500 yards, or meters for the rest of you if that is the kind of pool you have. I'll start with a 100 yard warm up, then switch over to sprints. I'm not very good with sprints and I am trying to lose weight so here is what I am doing for that:


-Four sets of 25 fast/25 easy.
-Two sets of 50 fast/50 easy.
-100 yard cool down.


I'd be more aggressive or diligent with swimming a more involved program but the swimming is mainly needed for my lifeguarding efforts. I'm rarely asked or required to swim further since I a not a beach guard.


Otherwise I lift, at the campus gym, at the community center, or increasingly with weights I pick up for a home gym I am setting up.


The next goal on the list, long delayed, is to purchase a bicycle for rides to and from my summer aquatics facility. That is an eight mile round trip and if I do that every day, plus the running around I will do as a lifeguard, that should strip the fat right off.

Bondiboy66 has opinions thus...

Posted February 6
Naaah no sprints for me, except at Sunday races (50m and 40m - sprinting so my 11yr old son doesn't beat me). I just do a steady 1000m no stopping - the idea (besides knocking off some flab) is to be able to swim out to rescue someone at the beach when doing volunteer lifesaving at Bondi. Do that 2 or 3 times a week, although I've had a break over the school holidays, Mix that up with at least one day in the surf either surfing or body surfing or just swimming about after the nippers kids.

Also get out and cycle about 30-40km at least once a week with the little bloke, either training or following the kids at the cycle club around the circuit.

Eat pretty sensibly, drink too much beer (average one or two most days, maybe 3 or 4 weekends.). Should cut that down. Gave up the durries 2 years back and instantly put on a few kilos that seems reluctant to move. Turning 50 probably didn't help. Still, I'm about 75kg and 180cm so thats still ok, just want to reduce it about 3 kg.

Murphy_of_Missouri reckons...

Posted February 6
A thousand in the surf or a thousand in the pool? Either way, I got a lot of respect for that.


I rarely have a need to swim much further than fifty meters and it generally has to be at speed. The sprints help with that. Different working conditions.


My diet, of late, is total shit though. I need to work on it. :)

Bondiboy66 mumbles...

Posted February 7
Nah in the pool. Used to do more open water swimming but its a bit hard first thing in the morning these days. I just go swimming when the little bloke does his squad training. Still get in the ocean some afternoons and most weekends.

Speed is kind of handy for me - but as most rescues are further away that what you might encounter in a pool, along with waves etc, I go for the endurance side of things so I can a) get to the person b) so something to help and c)not require saving myself in the process! Also helps when surfing anyway as per point c).

insomniac reckons...

Posted February 9
A thousand in the pool isn't too difficult. A slow and steady rhythm is necessary. I haven't been swimming for a while but it usually took me about 250 to settle down into that rhythm. I was so slow I'd cover 500 in 15 minutes, so I was usually swimming for 45 minutes sometimes 60

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Gutz has opinions thus...

Posted February 3
Hospital + Diabetic diet = 105kg > 90.9kg. "You have esophageal varices and you may explode" Cue better living through fucktons of medication.

Cue a 70% reduction in the bad life (aim for 100% blah blah) even my GP is happy (70% happy) with that.

So now hover round the 90's

Gutz or less Gutz?

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damian is gonna tell you...

Posted February 3
I still occasionally cycle to work, since there are off-road tracks most of the way and dedicated lanes for most of the rest. Job changes have held this sort of unreasonable behaviour down lately though. We're moving office again in the next few weeks too so I'm avoiding getting into that now, but I'm hopeful of finding motivation in cooler months. Of course the actual work pressure and long days makes it hard anyway, but we'll work on that. My next steps are actually simply using a weight set consistently with lunges and squats a few times a week. If I could get my knees and ankles to cooperate, I'd run to work (still a 30-ish km round trip). Course I'm still over the tun, so the knees might have a point. Back in December I re-sprained the ankle I trashed when the Boylans were here the time before last, and it's still kinda recovering.

My 30-ish officemate is currently doing something called F45, which means she's mostly hobbling around on muscles that are more microtear than fibre.

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DarrenBloomfield has opinions thus...

Posted February 3
Yep. Sadly, it's impossible to outtrain a bad diet.

I'm easing in to the no booze thing. And very low carbs. Carbs easier for me than booze - because preferences.

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Blake would have you know...

Posted February 4
I can report that brewing your own is not conducive to reducing alcohol intake. I have a lot more self control when shopping then when its sitting there waiting to be drunk. Availability did not help in the first portion of 2016 but i seem to be getting the hang of leaving it in the shed through the week. (Possibly the last batch or so wasn't great)

Keeping a steady exercise routine around the dad business has been a challenge - kindy starts sufficiently late that i'm in at work late at the start of the week and making it up by working late at the end.
The trick might be some alarm clock discipline and kid friendly home exercise on the nights the mrs works.



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Ceramic is gonna tell you...

Posted February 6
Ughh I've put on quite a bit of weight lately.
Before that I had a personal trainer for a while, was off the booze for a month, and cut down to about 8 cigarettes a day.
Now i'm smoking more again I've got stuff all energy. A lack of oxygen getting to my muscles. I walk about 6,000 steps a day, which is the one good thing.

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Gilligan is gonna tell you...

Posted February 6
I wanted to run 1000km in 2016 (more than some, less than others). I managed it, but because of my inherent "Bro, do you even math?"-ness, I ended up covering 22.5mk over the 30th (15.5km) and 31st (7km) of December, but by gum I done did it.

In 2017 I'm Chasing the 1000 again, but this time it's all going in a shiny Googledocs spreadsheet so I don't get the numbers wrong. I'm keeping track of run dates, distances, average pace, calories burned, where I ran and, for shiggles, how many bikes pass me vs. how many ding their bells and how many rounds of "Hey, cow!" I get in as I loop around the Dairyflat Road end of Lake Burley Griffin (and how many points I get).

Thus far in 2017 I'm on 17 runs, 127kms covered, and 12122 calories burned (because chips, guys. *chips*!).

Weightier than I'd like, but my average paces are down, so I guess it's swings and roundabouts. And chips.

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Bangar puts forth...

Posted February 6
I ended up at 90Kgs down from a 100Kgs, but not done in a good way ;) They put me on a new med that sent the blood sugars out of control. How high? the meter didn't read it just went HI. With my blood sugars so high I had no appetiete and was barely eating. Part of that weight loss was also muscle mass.

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HAVOCK21 has opinions thus...

Posted February 6
Well I am not sure, it might be the FKN GOD thing , it could be dumb luck or hell, it really might be just being pure FKN HAVOCK.

Then again, Dropping from 97 to the now very stable 82kgs could be the following.

1 Dont eat as much for breakfast,
2 dont eat as much for lunch
3 Eat better for eat better for breakfast and lunch.
4 Eat normal for tea and yeah....snack in between.
5 Don't have three stubbies of beer per night.
6 Dont have 3-5-to a fucking bazillion stubbies on the weekend.
7 Restrict week drinking to no consecutive nights and limit that to two beers.
8 Do mild and infrequent exercise.
9 Take up Deer Hunting
10 Take up shooting all sorts of stuff
11 Get walks in at work....... with random frequency and length.


Yeah....reckon it might have something to do with dropping off metric truck load of fkn beer. either ways, pretty happy to be at 82 and if that roams to 85 thats all good.

Bondiboy66 mumbles...

Posted February 7
I'm cool with few beers i.e. 2-3 at a time....but jeez I do like a post work beer and don't like the 'days off' concept! Sigh...must work on that.

Therbs is gonna tell you...

Posted February 8
Well, BB, I'd better not supply a list of happy hours around Bondi.
Really, I don't find it hard having "days off" (AFD's). Although for a while I did develop a habit of having a couple of happy hour quiets after work while devouring books on my kindle.

Bondiboy66 reckons...

Posted February 9
Yeah me too - albeit with actual paper books. The Nelson at Bondi Junction was favoured..$4.50 schooners after 4pm!

FormerlyKnownAsSimon has opinions thus...

Posted February 9
this is my favourite pasttime on friday arvo waiting for my bus home. Pub/beer (or two)/book. A little quiet time before getting back to the madhouse and the kids that day.

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Senator Texas swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted February 9
Coming late to the party. Here's a diet that works and won't break your ass:

Like most diets, all the protein and veggies you want.

Good stuff: eat all the beans you want (black beans, pintos, kidneys, whatever), all the nuts you want, a nice piece of cheese every evening with or after dinner AND 2-3 glasses of red wine every night. Not white wine and not beer or spirits. Red wine. Don't know why this works, but it does. With the beans (or hummus), you don't feel like shit when your blood sugar drops from lack of carbs.

Do not eat: bread, crackers, potatoes, rice, pasta, sweets, etc, except:

Best of all: one day a week, eat whatever you want in whatever quantities you want.

I lost 27 pounds on this one. It works. It's called the 4 Hour Body. Look it up.

You'll lose 2-3 pounds a month after an initial loss of 2-3 pounds in 10 days or so. Going to the gym accelerates the process.

John Birmingham is gonna tell you...

Posted February 9
This sounds great.

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Quokka puts forth...

Posted February 9
Middle age is a time when things like to slither out of the trapdoors of our psyches.
Sometimes it helps to feed the Dog.
i.e. Research that Mediterranean diet can have a significant effect improving isshews with depression.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-31/mediterranean-diet-can-help-in-fight-against-depression-study/8224522
There is a great book on CBT by Sarah Edelman, printed by ABC books, which is a really good tool for digging your way out of anxiety & depression. It's blurry good, I tell everyone to read it.
Hugs, Dog Walkers.

Murphy_of_Missouri swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted February 11
Depression had me in my teens.


My forties are where I kick that motherfucker's ass.

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