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New Star Trek trailer bringin' the awesome. Old Culture fan film doubles it down

Posted March 22, 2013 into Movies by John Birmingham

Read a kinda disturbing interview with Bryan Burk, the producer of Star Trek Into Darkness, who seemed to be threatening to morph the whole thing into a sort of loud, tedious Transformer franchise. It kicks off with a qoute that reads: "'There are those who like Star Trek and those who think people who like Star Trek are insane... I was one of them".Sure, he pulls it back by explaining that he and Abrams are trying to open up the world to a new generation of believers, and I think the SMH piece did him no favours in the way it was framed. I mean, seriously, they cited A Good Day To Die Hard and The Hangover 2 in the first couple of pars, the justification being that "Hollywood something something sequels, yeah."Burk thinks this Star Trek will be more accesible than the last one, which didn't seem to me to have particularly high barriers to entry. ''People who have avidly avoided Star Trek will be pleasantly surprised that this isn't what they were expecting.''None of it sounds promising. And then you get the trailer, with all the bright shiny and the splodey and the loud noises and you think, WTF, this is gonna be great anyway.

I'd embed the Star Trek vid, but for some reason, every time I do that it totally fucking borks the entry.

So if you want to see it, go directly to the Tube.

Or just watch it in the post directly above.

Ironically, or coincidently, or whatever, shortly after I saw the Star Trek trailer, Murph tweeted me a link to an old fan film on Youtube. Well, old in Internet years, anyway. It's called Something Real and is based on the Culture novels of Iain M Banks. My initial reaction was "Awesome!". My next reaction was "Oh no, this is going to suck a bag of dicks." I imagined GSV's made out of duct tape and cardboard boxes, and old Star Wars toys repurposed from droids into drones. A million light years away from the truth. Something Real is a high spec, professional effort.

I wonder if it was made as pitch to try get something bigger up? I was going to run this second vid later today, probably this evening, but having watched both I was taken by how different they were, even though both are telling SF stories. There's very little splodey in the Culture film, although what there is has been handled beautifully. It's mostly an exchange of ideas, which, when you think about it, is what the original Star Trek was all about; coating interesting ideas in a sweet, sweet bon bon of SF chocolate. In that way, Something Real is probably closer to the Star Trek ideal than Into Darkness. I'd still watch and enjoy both, however.

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TC reckons...

Posted March 22, 2013

Wow... that's pretty cool. Very similar to the start of Player of Games.

I like the sharing of ideas... especially with lasers, robots and explosions. Banks does it all very well and I'm looking forward to reading some more of his books.

BrianC swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted March 22, 2013

I was thinking that exact same thing.

Matthew K mumbles...

Posted March 22, 2013

Clearly heavily Player of Games.

Basnks has always said that stories set in the utopia of The Culture would be dead dull, the only conflict would be who got snubbed by who and loads of stuff like this - rich spoilt people yearning for an authenticity they can not comprehend. Hence his books being set on the edge of The Culture where it intersects with others.

The crossover zone where the Venn diagram circles intersect is always the most potentially fertile in many things.

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Blarkon is gonna tell you...

Posted March 22, 2013

I think that the fan film missed something of the feel of Banks universe. It felt more like Rosencrantz And Guildenstern Are Dead. Then again I suppose there is a Stoppardesque nature to the discussion of the Culture Minds.

John Birmingham reckons...

Posted March 22, 2013

Well it's a bit of an ask to cram the feel of a whole universe developed over eleventy umpteen books into a 6 minute vid. I thought they pretty much nailed it, right down to the dim wheel of the orbital off in the misty distance.

And that conversation felt like it had been penned by Banks himself, right down the slightly indulgent/exasperated tone of the drone.

Blarkon would have you know...

Posted March 22, 2013

In an illustrated guide to the Discworld, Pratchett said each person holds a different version of an author's universe in their head and that all of these versions are equally valid

BrianC asserts...

Posted March 22, 2013

I have to agree with JB. Culture always made me think of a declining Roman Empire proped up by expansion. This gave me that sense of purposelessness(is that a word?) what do you do when you have it so good that you dont even have to govern yourself?

Matthew K is gonna tell you...

Posted March 22, 2013

Decadence. Or ennui.

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w from brisbane mumbles...

Posted March 22, 2013

''People who have avidly avoided Star Trek will be pleasantly surprised that this isn't what they were expecting.''

They must be taking out the bits where people intelligently converse.

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Murphy is gonna tell you...

Posted March 22, 2013

Frankly, even though I am not a fan of this universe, I thought it captured it fairly accurately.

Glad you liked it, Birmo.

Respects,

Murph

On the Outer Marches

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TheWah reckons...

Posted March 22, 2013

I've always had a big old hairy man-crush on The Culture universe. Not sure how anyone could see living in it as boring. Access to any resource you desire, the ability to travel anywhere... what more could you want? Only a lack of imagination could make that boring.

So saying, I'm hesitant to wish for a Culture based movie. There's very little chance of a movie getting it right - and I don't need a movie because Banks is still feeding my Culture addiction book after book.

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Barnesm would have you know...

Posted March 22, 2013

I like how its looks professional but I don't think it would be super expensive. Its the dialog that shines for me. Pitch perfect for the interpaly between the drone and the guy.

If a kickstart wa set up for this I'd kick in the equivent for the first season on DVD.

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Escape from New York Remake!

Posted March 19, 2013 into Movies by John Birmingham

I always found the end of the original installment a bit disturbing, the way Snake Plissken decided to plunge the world into a new Dark Age. I sort of got that he was a good lookin' loner who lived by his own rules, but still, Snake, seriously?

Won't stop me hanging out, no doubt hopelessly, for a remake, somehow connected with Gerard '300' Butler and the producers of the Lethal Weapon, Die Hard and Predator series. Unlike Screen Crave, where I read of the redo, I'm not even that fazed by the idea of a three parter, with the first installment being an origin story. Snake: The Making of a Bad Ass.

I figure there'd be more than enough splodey and witty quips to plaster over any paper thin plotholes.

Oh, and while I'm at it, Kurt Russell, most underrated actor of the 1980s. Snake Plissken and Jack O'Neill? Plus that big thing in little China film that the ladies like? Just retrofuckingspectively give him all the Oscars and be done with it.

One prob, which arises with the possibility of an origin story prequel, is letting some know nothing film school grad screen writer get all jammed up worrying about a remake as a dialogue driven character study. Not just no, but hell no.

As Screen Crave says:

What’s been lost more recently in mainstream movies is the sense of events over people. Snake Plissken is not the ideal choice, but he’s all they’ve got. In Die Hard, John McClane is just dealing with the situation. The best recent example is probably Attack the Block. By building a trilogy around the character, they will be robbing what made the character interesting. Audiences may hate or love Snake Plisken, however they feel about him, it doesn’t change what makes the movie interesting.

In fact, this makes me wonder wether the time is upon us for a remake of the original Stargate movie.

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damian puts forth...

Posted March 19, 2013

What rough beast, eh?

So they'll remake <i>Starship Troopers</i>, merely omitting the unnecessary and confusing nuace. Likewise for Full Metal Jacket, Apocalypse Now and Dr Strangelove.

Dan mutters...

Posted March 20, 2013

I want it to be all Neil Patrick Harris

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Barnesm puts forth...

Posted March 20, 2013

Though wasn't the entire Satrgate SG-1 series just a remake of the Stargate movie.

Sure Snake 'Call me Pliskin' is cool, but dammit I am still waiting on my promised Balck 7 reboot, can we not organise some sort of priority listing for these remakes.

Barnesm would have you know...

Posted March 20, 2013

Blake 7 reboot. Do'h

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TC mutters...

Posted March 20, 2013

Man I loved the Escapes in their day - remakes always worry me but really... what's there to get wrong here? Problem in some city, bring in Snake, explosions, growl from Snake, people die, more explosions, surf the wave. Sure, the wave was in LA, and is probably the jump the shark moment, especialy with those dodgy graphics... but it was cool. That's probably the crux of the movie - coolness. Make it about dialogue and back story and family and all those sad events that led to Snake being who he is and you may as well just re-make Home and Away.

Speaking of Oscars for Kurt - Tango & Cash. Awesome.

And finally - the only movie and actor at the time that I found got close to Kurt's enigmatic style and brilliant approach to conflict was They Live with Roddy Piper. I'm pretty sure Roddy was channelling Kurt in the bank scene... "I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum!"

w from brisbane thrillingly mumbles...

Posted March 20, 2013

You will be looking forward to "Rowdy" Roddy Piper's 2013 movie release.

Pro Wrestlers vs Zombies

A Cheeseburger special!

pi has opinions thus...

Posted March 20, 2013

Lol... great minds think alike. Came here to say exactly the same thing about They Live!

Bondiboy66 would have you know...

Posted March 20, 2013

They Live is an under appreciated CLASSIC

Barnesm reckons...

Posted March 21, 2013

OBEY

MARRY AND REPRODUCE

NO INDEPENDENT THOUGHT

CONSUME

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w from brisbane, zombie, mutters...

Posted March 20, 2013

Wow, there is a promotional video for Pro Wrestlers vs Zombies!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59qPKe4HZQg

TC swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted March 20, 2013

And here I thought you were just shitting me! That looks awesome... awesomely bad. Or maybe just bad.

That said... Roddy seems to have aged remarkably well.

w from brisbane admiringly mutters...

Posted March 20, 2013

TC, how very 'auteur'.

'Escape from New York' and 'They Live' have the same director. Nice.

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tqft would have you know...

Posted March 20, 2013

Has there been any original material out of Hollywood recently? Zombies vs Pro-wrestlers looks at least original.

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Lobes is gonna tell you...

Posted March 20, 2013
Escape from New York is an awesome pizza chain as well.

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beeso is gonna tell you...

Posted March 20, 2013

Escape from LA is the second worst movie of all time.

w from brisbane pleadingly has opinions thus...

Posted March 20, 2013

'Escape from LA' is a camp spoof of 'Escape from New York'.

p.s. Stop the torture! Please. please, please, what is the worst movie of all time?

pi has opinions thus...

Posted March 20, 2013

Worst movie of all time?

The Replacements.

<span style="line-height: 1.6em;">http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0191397/reviews?filter=hate</span>

The haters have it.

beeso reckons...

Posted March 20, 2013

Boxing Helana is the worst movie of all time. By a long way.

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pi would have you know...

Posted March 20, 2013

Can't wait. One of my favourite movie-makers John Carpenter (both Big Trouble and Escape). Will be interesting to see what they can do with this... it really would. The character of both the Cabbie, Duke and Brain would be ones that actors could really get their teeth into.

But seriously... remake a Carpenter movie? They Live!.

"I have come here to chew bubble-gum and to kick-ass. And I'm all out of bubble-gum.".

Ya can't beat that kind of dialogue.

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Blarkon reckons...

Posted March 20, 2013

There were a few whispers on i09 that there were going to be sequels made to the first Stargate movie that sidesteps the SG1 continuity (given that time travel is possible in Stargate, why not) - but revival doesn't seem likely given the fate of SGU.

However there is a new Stargate video game for iOS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf4iyw9eIv0

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Therbs mumbles...

Posted March 20, 2013

A remake of Dark Star would be cool. The end bit, jumping on surfboards riding the shock wave of a planet-killer bomb would bring the awesome in 3D with The Atlantics 'Bombora' as a soundtrack.

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w from brisbane has opinions thus...

Posted March 21, 2013

Beeso has called it. 'Boxing Helena' is the worst movie of all time.

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Toxteth O'Grady is gonna tell you...

Posted March 21, 2013

Hey, it wasn't just the 80's that Kurt made great films! He was pretty good as that hippy dude in Big Lebowski, and that Tron movie from a couple of years ago that totally ripped off that Regurgitator music video, and when he played Obi Wan's dad Kweejong from Starwars (the first one. No, not that one, the other first one that came after). That one with Meg Ryan drowning was a bit naff, though.

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w from brisbane mumbles...

Posted March 21, 2013

Great idea ShaneAlpha! Veronica Mars and Weapons of Choice.

Veronica Mars investigates the disappearance of Buzz Bidtrup, a high school friend who had mysteriously disappeared while mowing the lawn of Professor Manning Pope.

Veronica discovers that, not only has Buzz Bidtrup disappeared, but no one can find the mower! Beginning to suspect that Professor Pope is interfering with the very fabric of space and time, Veronica sneaks aboard the JRV Nagoya ….

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Bunyip mutters...

Posted March 21, 2013

Is it too soon to suggest a Buffy reboot? Asking for a friend.

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