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Prelude to Axanar

Posted July 2, 2014 into Movies by John Birmingham

There might never be another official Star Trek series, despite recent rumours, but it's beginning to seem as though that won't matter; there's so much indie fan talent doing their own thing with Roddenberry's story world. No idea how that works with intellectual property law, but it does seem to work.

Having enjoyed Star Trek Continues Ep 3, I was stoked to find this pop up in my news aggregators a while back. A feature-length kickstarter about the Klingon-Federation war that predates ST-TOS.

The production values are great. I hope they can build from this teaser into a full length movie.

But now, back to the deadline.

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Blarkon asserts...

Posted July 2, 2014
The rule is that no one is to make money off the production.

John Birmingham puts forth...

Posted July 2, 2014
Thought so, but how is that even possible. Look at the production values. It costs money to make. Otherwise they wouldn't be kickstarting it.

Bangar would have you know...

Posted July 2, 2014
It'd be making profit, though a Ferengi would figure out how ;)

Blarkon reckons...

Posted July 2, 2014
The assumptions around that general permission were those that existed prior to the broadcast nature of internet video. When Roddenberry was thinking about it, it was badly dubbed VHS cassettes being handed between fans. As long as no one was making a profit off those cassettes, no one seemed to care.

(Roddenberry gave this sort of general permission even though he created, but did not own, Star Trek)

Today those films can be seen by millions. As long as the don't tick the box where they get revenue ... though I suspect that given that Google still gets revenue ... that the new realities of mass distribution will eventually trigger a recalibration on the part of the owners of these properties.

I guess anyone who does this sort of thing has to do it with the knowledge that should the owners ask for it to be taken down, that they don't have a leg to stand on legally.

The real pity is that you have all these creative and talented people who aren't creating their own new universe and stories, but are instead farting about in the Star Trek universe making high quality fan fiction.

John Birmingham ducks in to say...

Posted July 2, 2014
The other pity is the market which exists for this farting around, not being serviced by the mainstream production houses.

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan asserts...

Posted July 3, 2014
Respectfully disagree. This farting around provides the experience needed to transition into mini production houses that will challenge the mainstream production houses - even if it is similar to the death of a thousand cuts. These mini production companies won't produce commercial Trek material, but their advent will result in more general content created by people who know what they are doing. There will always be mega productions. What I want is more inspired, smart, independent stuff.

Blarkon asserts...

Posted July 4, 2014
There are more people who support a middle class (or better) lifestyle as Astronauts than there are people making a middle class lifestyle creating content for YouTube. That should give you an idea of the future of independent production.

You're either insanely successful, or you are faffing about forever in someone's garage. The small independent productions that existed even a few years ago are disappearing. Those are the ones that are necessary to support those "small production houses".

Spielberg talked a bit about it in some of the interviews he gave around Lincoln - that even he had trouble getting funding for a small production that wasn't going to cost much.

I think it was someone talking with Kevin Smith about his film Clerks, which Smith made on a shoestring. This person mentioned that for more than a decade, the average person has had access to high quality production movie making and editing equipment. And even though access to the means of production have been "democratized" - there has been very few breakout high quality independent films. The cheap to make "Clerks" type films have almost disappeared.

(it doesn't help that something like Clerks could be discovered at the video store - whereas today something is likely to be discovered on torrent - which doesn't lead to the original creators getting paid)

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Therbs reckons...

Posted July 2, 2014
That looks the goods. Hope they get it done.

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John Birmingham would have you know...

Posted July 2, 2014
Nice work, Dino. Keeping it simple. Now, concentrate and maintain.

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John Birmingham is gonna tell you...

Posted July 3, 2014
I'm talking about TV not film

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w from brisbane mumbles...

Posted July 3, 2014
The Klingon Kharn is played by Richard Hatch from the original Battlestar Gallatica.
Captain Sonya Alexander is played by Kate Vernon who was Ellen Tigh in the second Battlestar Gallatica.
So there is a lot of space travel experience on the flight decks.

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pi asserts...

Posted July 3, 2014
OT, but some admin needs to take a wee look into the solar project forum. spamalam.

insomniac asserts...

Posted July 3, 2014
I've just lost thousands of dollars and seen things no one should see

Therbs mumbles...

Posted July 3, 2014
Spam shields need more powaaahhh!

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Lulu asserts...

Posted July 3, 2014
I cannae hold her any longer captain the spam shield is gonna blow!

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan puts forth...

Posted July 4, 2014
The spam shields held!

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Murphy_of_Missouri mutters...

Posted July 4, 2014
I gotta say this trailer looks pretty good. I saw it about a month or so ago. These fan based, Kickstarter funded efforts are getting better with each cycle.

Respects,
Murph
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BrianC is gonna tell you...

Posted July 10, 2014
First of yeah im back.

Secondly. fuck JJ Abrahams. He ruined Trek in the second film he did. Its not trek any more its trek wars.

Thirdly. More of this type of thing. Simply smashing. Backed.

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Hope Hope ducks in to say...

Posted September 2, 2014
Remember, it's not too late to donate to Star Trek Axanar feature film via Paypal - You'll receive the same great perks for your donation level as were offered in the feature flim's Kickstarter - it's not too late!!! donate@StarTrekAxanar.com - Qapla'!! :)

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Movies from another time

Posted May 31, 2014 into Movies by John Birmingham

I dips me lid to Beeso for this link to a kind of brilliant bit of work reimagining movie posters from alternative time lines.

And the must see action blockbuster that Leonard Nimoy rode to crossover big screen stardom when he escaped the gravity well of Star Trek.

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MickH would have you know...

Posted June 1, 2014
Dino
Mate
What the FUCK are you on about?
Do you have some sort of agenda here or are you just fucking nuts?
I suspect the later....

Dino not to be confused with mumbles...

Posted June 1, 2014
MickH,
There was a comment here that was deleted where 'where' was corrected to 'we're'.
It's from Pardners the movie with Dean and Jerry.
The theme song. 'You and me, we're gonna be Pardners, you and me we're gonna be Pals...etc".
Maybe you haven't seen it. It was the Obvious comment, albiet somewhat cryptic for the youngsters, to the Post.
But to answer your question- yes I am fucking nuts, I believe in Science- hence I am fucking nuts.

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Dirk mumbles...

Posted May 31, 2014
I can see this in an upcoming Axis of Time my friend :).
The 1959 release of Skyfall perhaps starring Sean Connery? :D

John Birmingham asserts...

Posted May 31, 2014
Fkn brilliant idea!

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yankeedog puts forth...

Posted June 1, 2014
Way cool! Some fine work there.

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Rob mutters...

Posted June 1, 2014
that fifth element poster actually makes me want to see the fifth element.

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Abe Frellman mumbles...

Posted June 1, 2014
Danny Bonaduce as John Connor... INSPIRED.

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pi ducks in to say...

Posted June 1, 2014
That's gold. Love The Big Lebowski.

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John Birmingham mutters...

Posted June 1, 2014
Permission denied.

MickH reckons...

Posted June 1, 2014
I agree with JB, you'd hurt yourself with it

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ShaneAlpha puts forth...

Posted June 1, 2014
They missed the most obvious one
Dredd 3D
Staring Clint Eastwood.

pi mutters...

Posted June 1, 2014
Charles Bronson?

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MickH is gonna tell you...

Posted June 1, 2014
Seriously?
Most of those would suck. big time.

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Anthony mumbles...

Posted June 1, 2014
The Hobbit starring Mickey Rooney.

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Legless ducks in to say...

Posted June 2, 2014
Sorry about the thread-jack Mr B - but could you give me your email address? Use a throwaway account if needed. I've some bleeding-edge IT stuff I'd like you to know about
Cheers

John Birmingham mutters...

Posted June 2, 2014
You on twitter, Legless?

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Cap'n America

Posted April 7, 2014 into Movies by John Birmingham

I usually come out of a Marvel film surprised at how much it impressed me. Not at how much I enjoyed myself, which is a given, but rather how much more than a comic-book-come-to-life the movie seemed to be. Perhaps that’s just because I haven’t read enough comic books recently.

The rust and corrosion eating away at Iron Man’s soul, the weight of expectation crushing down on Thor, and now the sense of anomie and rootlessness which frames Steve Rogers second life in Captain America: The Winter Soldier. Comics long ago abandoned the simplistic moralism of early Superman, of course, but big screen cinema still loves a black and white dichotomy. Especially in the realm of superheroes and supervillains.

For me, it was the emotional complexity of Cap’s resurrection which provided the depth for all of the action sequences driving TWS. I very much enjoyed the discovery of his friendship with Sam Wilson, the veteran/counsellor and the way the script used this to explore the issue of Roger’s temporal dislocation.

I don’t want to go into plot points, because I know there’s lots of people haven’t seen the film yet and Marvel borrowed enthusiastically from the post-Bourne playbook of story mechanics. Suffice to say, I’ll happily watch it again when it becomes available via legitimate digital distribution channels everywhere.

If you want to talk plot and character revelations in the comments, however, feel free, with appropriate SPOILER WARNINGS.

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Barnesm swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted April 7, 2014

"I’ll happily watch it again when it becomes available via legitimate digital distribution channels everywhere" I am so going to use that phrase in future. With of course all credit to the original source.

w from brisbane mumbles...

Posted April 7, 2014

On the related topic, some might have seen a retweet of Bette Midler's tweet on 4 Apr 2014.

@Bette Midler
@Spotify and @Pandora have made it impossible for songwriters to earn a living:
three months streaming on Pandora, 4,175,149 plays=$114.11.

S.M. Stirling asserts...

Posted April 7, 2014

Which is why I buy all my music at full price.

Murphy is gonna tell you...

Posted April 8, 2014

What Stirling said, per books.

On the other hand, this hypocrite is presently listening to Pharell's Happy on Spotify.

Respects,

Murph

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Murphy would have you know...

Posted April 7, 2014

There is only one thing that bothers me about SHIELD in general.

Where do they get their funding?

A Nimitz class carrier is nothing to sneeze at in terms of cost, complexity and time to construct. The follow on Ford class is even more complex, costly and has a longer lead time. These helicarriers, I suspect, are built after the events in NYC circa the Avengers. So figure a year and a half to two years for THREE of them?

Further, they seem to be crossbred with the Lexington Class carriers pre-World War II.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexington-class_aircraft_carrier

The kid in me loves the helicarriers but the guy who does some of the research around here is scratching his head going, "How is that possible?" Black box MacGuffins like the ARC reactor and Stark repulsor technology take you only so far.

That being said, I did enjoy the journey Steve Rogers takes through the story. A stranger in a strange land doing things he is uncomfortable with makes the hard call with the help of a few of his friends. In that respect, I did enjoy the film.

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Murph

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Barnesm puts forth...

Posted April 7, 2014

only ONE thing?

Murphy would have you know...

Posted April 7, 2014

I believe, "Where do they get their funding?" covers my overall concerns.

Sudragon asserts...

Posted April 7, 2014

Wasn't there a line in 'Armageddon' about this? Something about $4000 toilet seats?

Murphy mumbles...

Posted April 8, 2014

I'm still trying to figure out why the rovers had gatling guns in that movie.

In fact, I want to know why Hollywood, when they are at a loss for a plot says, "I know, gatling guns, fuckahs!!!!"

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Murph

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Sudragon swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted April 13, 2014

Because:

Ever since Richard Gatling's 1861 invention, the rapid-firing rotary gun has had a special place among BFGs. Because it's basically the gun equivalent of a chainsaw, there is an undeniable attraction to a gun which can produce high enough rates of fire to cleanly trim hedges, cut down trees, or, in the case of the GAU-8 Avenger, cut tanks in half. Just imagine what they do to human flesh.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GatlingGood

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Paul_Nicholas_Boylan is gonna tell you...

Posted April 7, 2014

I think they explained SHIELD funding in the film - something to do with ripping off the middle class.

Murphy has opinions thus...

Posted April 8, 2014

A pyramid scheme. That explains everything.

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Don Bagert asserts...

Posted April 9, 2014

No they didn't :( I was thinking that in the MCU they could have really made a Cap cartoon series in the 1960's and have Steve encounter it ansd the theme song, perhaps at the museum exhibit about him LOL

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Blarkon ducks in to say...

Posted April 7, 2014

Black Widow - Born according to the released shield files in 1980.

Said she was trained by the KGB - which became the FSB in 1991 or so.

They should have just said "Trained by the FSB"

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S.M. Stirling swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted April 7, 2014

Funding:

Y'know, just before WWI, the British Imperial General Staff requested a doubling of the number of machine guns in every British battalion, and a reserve to replace losses in the event of war (and more heavy artillery.)

Lloyd George, who was then at the Treasury, denied the request on the grounds that the British public was heavily overtaxed. At that time, only people making more than about 1000 pounds a year, equivalent to about $250,000 now, paid substantial income tax, especially if they had children.

After 1918, Lloyd George had the barefaced effrontery to recount how he forced the reactionary military brass to accept more machine guns, when in reality they were clamoring for every one they could get. This should not surprise anyone who knows anything about Lloyd George, who was a brilliant but utterly corrupt and dishonest man who lied reflexively and with vicious bitchery whenever he thought he could get away with it.

Politicians spend the money on stuff that's more popular in peacetime, and then when the balloon goes up soldiers pay for it in blood.

(BTW, the stuff about Haig and the others not understanding modern weapons is complete crap. Haig was an enthusiast for new technology, demanded every machine gun and heavy artillery piece he could get, loved tanks as soon as he saw them, and badgered London continually for more aircraft. Kitchener in 1914 bluntly told the Cabinet that the war would last at least 3 years and require mobilizing millions of men, profoundly shocking the "frocks" who'd expected a limited-liability naval war. The British commanders weren't usually geniuses, but they -were- usually solid, intelligent professionals. They were simply confronted with a situation that didn't -have- any good solutions.)

Murphy mutters...

Posted April 8, 2014

One problem with the mythology versus reality (not helped by historical revisionism) is that many present day history professors avoid matters military like the plague, preferring instead to focus on social history.

Worse, if you try to teach military history in a standard survey course you find that there is considerable resistance to the material because they've been taught over and over and over again that, "War is bad, evil and we don't learn evil things."

So instead we focus on the lives of fishmongers, skirt makers and other unsundry bits of social history.

Or to put it another way, most of the military history I know I've had to acquire on my own through my own research without mentorship.

Anyway, if there is rampant ignorance about Field Marshall Douglas Haig out there (and I confess to skimming the wiki entry on me after I read your post, Steve) it is part in parcel due to what passes for history classes today.

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Murph

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Barnesm would have you know...

Posted April 8, 2014

""War is bad, evil and we don't learn evil thing" so is disease but I don't see calls for doctors to take it from th curriculum in medical schools.

Surely the US with as long a military history as it has, been involved in so many conflicts must have dedicated, professional miltary historians?

Lulu mumbles...

Posted April 8, 2014

Murphy, for a fully-rounded picture of history one probably needs to look at both (as well as others). I think there was a long period (very long: I got some it in my 1980s schooling) when history was taught as military & government only.

Murphy has opinions thus...

Posted April 8, 2014

Lulu, you'd think but trust me, most of the historians I encountered tend to avoid it in the classroom.

Barnes, yes, we have competent military historians. They generally tend to be in the military though not all of them are. In fact, they tend to be everywhere but in a college classroom teaching their subject matter.

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Murph

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Barnesm swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted April 8, 2014

Damn doesn't that mean that college class rooms are missing a significant chunk of history in their history classes?

Murphy swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted April 8, 2014

Yes.

As I mentioned upthread, there is significant resistance to the topic among students and faculty.

I had an undergrad professor who said, "Nothing important happens during the wars."

Now, maybe he simply didn't like talking about them. I have my topics that I prefer not to talk about. That preference doesn't override actual necessity concerning the coverage of a topic. For instance, I can't skip American Reconstruction in my American History since 1865 course nor can I brush it off with, "Read it out of the book."

Moreover, in survey courses, which is what most college students will take (the mandatory minimum exerting as little effort as possible in order to maintain a passing average) it is impossible to cover every valid topic in detail. So some instructors try different things to compensate.

Personally, I prefer to pick an historical figure who can serve as a focal point for a given period of history, using them as a tour guide to illustrate problems, challenges, potential solutions and conflicts. That option is not always possible with each topic but when it is an option and I use it, students seem to dial into the material better.

Anyway, Captain America was great.

And Carthage must be destroyed!

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Murph

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Dino not to be confused with mumbles...

Posted April 7, 2014

So Much to say!

Will have a look at Which-50 shortly.

Missed the last post/email.

Saw a video in Canberra 1996 called "Horny Housewifes".

Credits included PJRL and N(*).

Then there's that video 'Perfeect People" by Tommy.

Where is he now?

Signing off.

Dino not to be confused with is gonna tell you...

Posted April 7, 2014

'78 Records.

Posnamo, come no?

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NBlob reckons...

Posted April 7, 2014

While this week's episode of cultural imperialism maybe offer momentary 'splodey diversion even dressed dowin the shabby rags of ennui, Samsung (not apple) have produced graphene monolayer monocrystals. This is a big deal. Perhaps not cold fusion or room temp super conductor big, but big enough.

http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/179874-samsungs-graphene-breakthrough-could-finally-put-the-wonder-material-into-real-world-devices

Barnesm swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted April 8, 2014

Its an impresive techical achievement and will chnage how tech is build in ways we can not even yet imagine.

NBlob is gonna tell you...

Posted April 8, 2014

"Bob, why do you hate America?"

60% jealousy

30% fear

10% other

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan reckons...

Posted April 8, 2014

I was kidding. I never really suspected you of hating America (just Kansas, Arizona and Missippippi).

I don't think I'll ever ask that question in jest again.

Murphy ducks in to say...

Posted April 8, 2014

Those Kansans did carry out Order Number 11.

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted April 8, 2014

I thought that happened in Missouri.

Do you think there was a more immediate and effective way to respond to the Lawrence Massacre?

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted April 8, 2014

I just realized we opened the door for a discussion that includes Jayhawkers, Bushwhackers and Redlegs but excludes just about everyone here. I deeply regret doing so. Let's not go there, shall we?

Murphy swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted April 8, 2014

PNB,

1. Yes.

2. No.

3. OK.

Respects,

Murph

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Barnesm asserts...

Posted April 8, 2014

" but excludes just about everyone here" hey I may be ignorant of all the facts, details and issues. Doesn't mean I don't have an opinion on the matter on which I will carry out long, text heavy posting about.

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan ducks in to say...

Posted April 8, 2014

I stand corrected: everybody here but Barnesy.

w from brisbane has opinions thus...

Posted April 8, 2014

Speaking of Missouri, I never realised that Kansas City was also known as the "Paris of the Plains".
That does make me wonder what Murph, aka 'Frenchy', has been complaining about all these years. It must be a product of his innate Parisian hauteur.

Murphy mutters...

Posted April 8, 2014

We're called that because of the proliferation of fountains, many of which often do not work.

As for French food, Aixois is worth a visit.

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Murph

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NBlob mumbles...

Posted April 8, 2014

It's actually Oreganics & Washingtonians* that truly Sh!t me. Their superscillious attitude "we're so clever" "We make boeings" that grates.

*Note: the State, not the Disctrict of Columbia. East coasters are generally more humble, gracious and they have the Smithsonian.

w from brisbane reckons...

Posted April 8, 2014

The state of Rhode Island always seems short of fans.

NBlob would have you know...

Posted April 8, 2014

That'd be because it barely qualifies as a Zip code. Whomever granted State-hood must have had an agenda.

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan mutters...

Posted April 8, 2014

I am shocked no one here knows that Kansas City was known as "the Paris of the Plains" due to the availability of inexpensive, but skilled, prostitutes.

S.M. Stirling mutters...

Posted April 10, 2014

A joint project of UCLA and the University of Tennessee has successfully reconnected the spinal cords of four men totally paralyzed from the waist down for 2-4 years.

(They tried the new technique of four men; all four recovered showed about the same response. The program will now be expanded.)

The men have recovered sensation and mobility in the lower limbs, bladder and bowel control, and sexual function.

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Rob ducks in to say...

Posted April 7, 2014

My money will be spent on the Lego Movie. and maybe beer, and a band or maybe beer and wait for the DVD,

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w from brisbane asserts...

Posted April 8, 2014

Not aiming this at anybody, but....
I can't see how people who enjoy the super hero genre, can disdain the fantasy genre because magic.

Those emotional complexities are also stock in the fantasy/magic genre. Those who have magic are often fearful of the ability. Struggle to control it. Get it wrong to horrific effect. See it as a curse. Can feel it's threat of absolute moral corruption. Would rather not walk across the land to fight monstrous evil.

NBlob is gonna tell you...

Posted April 8, 2014

@ W. It's pretty simple;

1 There is a Maguffin (Spider-bite etc) that sets limits on the degree of superhero-ness, unlike in Magical stories where there is no *logical* limitation of powers.

2 No hobbits, sprites, elves or other punchable little F*kers.

Barnesm mumbles...

Posted April 8, 2014

The problem with the superhero genre is not the Maguffin itself but when they are a medium that has been running a continuous story for 70years and you have to keep inventing new ways of using, challanging the character.

Imagine fantasy telling one continuous story for 70years with the same characters and settings at times it would have to dig into the grab bag that DC and Marvel have had to resort to.

Barnesm puts forth...

Posted April 8, 2014

Not so big an issue with the movies sinec they can simply choose the best stories and ignore any bits that make things ridiculous/too fantastic.

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Dino not to be confused with swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted April 8, 2014

Hey W,

Magic is sxciesez yet to be understood.

Flying planes were magic a while ago.

Still everyone is a scientific expert aren't they?

S.M. Stirling asserts...

Posted April 10, 2014

Actually, no, they weren't. The principle was understood as far back as the Renaissance, and working models were demonstrated in the 1840's. The main problems were stability and a power source with a sufficiently high power-to-weight ratio, which was just engineering.

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tqft is gonna tell you...

Posted April 8, 2014

I will put this here rather than in the SJ thread preceding

http://www.dailydot.com/fandom/black-widow-reviews-wrong-captain-america/

"

Just for kicks, I took a look at the top reviews for The Avengers, to see what America’s most acclaimed and respected cinema critics thought of Black Widow back in 2012. Bear in mind that most of these quotes are the only description of Scarlett Johansson’s performance in the entire review.

In the New Yorker, Anthony Lane wrote, “not to be left out, Black Widow repels invading aliens through the sheer force of her corsetry,” while the Wall Street Journal’s Pulitzer-winning Joe Morgenstern complained, “Black Widow spends lots of time looking puzzled or confused.”"

Hopefully Blackwidow with SJ does get a solo movie

Dino not to be confused with reckons...

Posted April 8, 2014

Seeking Female,

Intelligent, nice, likes good food, honest, good fighter.

Dino not to be confused with asserts...

Posted April 8, 2014

I met her when she was a kid but she (probably)won't remember it.

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Don Bagert ducks in to say...

Posted April 9, 2014

Hey, you know that early scene with Sam where Steve has a small pad where he writes down things that he missed in the 60+ years he was on ice that have been suggested to him? I gather that the list of items is different for each country! JB - see any Australian references there? :)

tqft mumbles...

Posted April 9, 2014

it was too fast for me to catch any oz specific reference. There is a reddit thread devoted to this topic.

w from brisbane would have you know...

Posted April 9, 2014

Australia & New Zealand

AC/DC
Space travel
Steve Irwin
Skippy the Bush Kangaroo
Tim Tams
Thai Food
Star Wars/Trek
Nirvana (band)
Rocky (Rocky II?)
Troubleman (soundtrack)

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan ducks in to say...

Posted April 9, 2014

You missed "cashed up bogans."

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Don Bagert reckons...

Posted April 11, 2014

Thank you!

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Myles Lobdell has opinions thus...

Posted April 11, 2014

Superman's morality may have been black and white in the germinal days of the 1930s, but it was black and white in a very politically progressive and partisan manner: crusading against corporations and the merchants of death and quelling endemic government corruption. All consonant with the latest Captain America movie.

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Scarlett Johansson is kicking lots of arse recently

Posted April 7, 2014 into Movies by John Birmingham

Saw her yesterday in Captain America, which was awesome and which I'll write up in a moment, and she's also playing against type in some freakish horror movie where she lures Scottish men to their deaths. But I think I'll probably see her in this Luc Besson SF action/thriller first.

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Murphy reckons...

Posted April 7, 2014

Luc Besson is always worth the time.

And then there is Scarlett, who is also worth the time.

Oh, Cap Two? Teh Awesome!

Respects,

Murph

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S.M. Stirling is gonna tell you...

Posted April 7, 2014

I wrote Scarlett Johansson before Scarlett Johansson was cool... 8-).

Seeing Cap tomorrow.

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Barnesm asserts...

Posted April 7, 2014

On those endorsements I too am off to see Captain America 2. Is the title the Winter Solider is a reference to Paine's The American Crisis with the line

"The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of his country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman"?

Murphy reckons...

Posted April 7, 2014

I wouldn't be surprised if Marvel was inspired by Paine but I suspect the more simplistic reason is that he was a Cold War communist counterpart to Captain America.

Respects,

Murph

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Barnesm is gonna tell you...

Posted April 7, 2014

wouldn't that be ???????? Rossiya?

Barnesm mumbles...

Posted April 7, 2014

Kapitan Rossiya

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Paul_Nicholas_Boylan is gonna tell you...

Posted April 7, 2014

My son and I saw CM2 yesterday and we loved it. Can't wait for JB's take.

And Steve, Scarlett was always cool.

S.M. Stirling mumbles...

Posted April 7, 2014

Paul, I wrote Scarlett before Scarlett was -born-.

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan would have you know...

Posted April 8, 2014

I got no comeback for that.

What did you think of the film?

S.M. Stirling reckons...

Posted April 8, 2014

Captain America was great, but we need "Black Widow".

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w from brisbane puts forth...

Posted April 7, 2014

I think I had seen her in a minor role before but, like for many, the first time I became aware of Scarlett Johannson was in 'Lost in Translation' with Bill Murray.
The opening shot of that film was very memorable as an unconventional introduction to the relatively unknown female lead.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyOSuFBS7IA

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Bangar is gonna tell you...

Posted April 7, 2014

Again the 10% fallacy, but the movie looks good.

John Birmingham mumbles...

Posted April 7, 2014

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's a Scientology lie, too, actually.

Bangar would have you know...

Posted April 7, 2014

Haven't heard the Scientology (can believe it though).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_percent_of_brain_myth

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dylwah asserts...

Posted April 7, 2014

Looks like she is going to have a hard time leaving a fossil.

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S.M. Stirling is gonna tell you...

Posted April 7, 2014

Scientology uses it, but the meme was floating around long before Elron. It was a mid-20th century staple; it comes up in a lot of the SF of the era.

Sudragon mumbles...

Posted April 7, 2014

The rest, apparently, is used for penguins.

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WarDog is gonna tell you...

Posted April 7, 2014

Limitless on steriods, done by Luc Besson. Nice.

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Dino not to be confused with has opinions thus...

Posted April 7, 2014

Yeah But this is the real deal-

Code Pink.org or something

Even Scarlett can't beat the fkwits of AIPAC and the Sycophants in Egypt.

Egyptian "Men" who suck camel dicks. Then look toough. Pieces of shit.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/03/04/medea-egypt/

There is a woman I would die for.

Dino not to be confused with mutters...

Posted April 7, 2014

Noew Israhell has shut dowm der Embassies watch the Egyptians follow suit.

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tygertim ducks in to say...

Posted April 8, 2014

The trailer looks awesome! I've marked out time to watch Lucy when it comes out.

Greetings from long absent

Tygertim

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Barnesm mutters...

Posted April 8, 2014

Welcome back TT

NBlob mumbles...

Posted April 8, 2014

+1

Long time No read

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tygertim has opinions thus...

Posted April 13, 2014

I's good to be back. Courtesy of kindle fire. I've missed you guys!

tygertim

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These final hours

Posted February 20, 2014 into Movies by John Birmingham

Caught the trailer for this local apocalypse flick on Gizmodo yesterday and was kind of impressed. Some wobbly voice/over scripting at the start but it soon left that behind and promised a great looking story that might even be emiggening without a Hollywood happy ending.

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Blarkon swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted February 20, 2014

You'd spend it at the Apple store wouldn't you.

Barnesm would have you know...

Posted February 20, 2014

Nice one

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Posted February 20, 2014

if I knew it was going to end, I have a list of people I would want to 'speak to' before it ends.

AKM. ducks in to say...

Posted February 23, 2014

Don't we all.........it would be messy.

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HAVOCK21 ducks in to say...

Posted February 20, 2014

I'd be shooting at Some bastard from fkn orbit, or...in a plane, they would be.....FKN CHINESE! PRC PLAN MUPPETS I THJINK!, after I got the plane into the air. Actually, no, I would have a bull bar on me ute, and every dumb fkn bastard who was being a GIT on the road and thats gunna include the retards in the right lane driving along fat dumb and fkn happy and taxi's ( cos we all hate them on the bloody road ) and I would be DTRINING INTO THEM< and somewhere along the the line..ID find a LAMBO to fkn SIDE SWIPE!

DNABeast mutters...

Posted February 20, 2014

A plane would stall if you went up too high but could you use the compression wave to boost yourself into sapce and over the top? Kind of like a surfboard over an incoming wave?

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DNABeast has opinions thus...

Posted February 20, 2014

'Seeking a friend for the end of the world' is a nice spin on this subject matter too.

Guru Bob is gonna tell you...

Posted February 20, 2014

That film was much better then I thought it would be...

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WarDog reckons...

Posted February 24, 2014

Larry Niven, ran with this in 'Inconstant Moon' which I first read in 81.

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Robocop good. Robocop bad

Posted February 14, 2014 into Movies by John Birmingham

Dunno whether I'll go see the Robocop remake on the big screen. Seems the sort of thing I'd be likely to enjoy more on my own of a Saturday night with the wife away, the children a-bed and a couple of drinks on board.

Reviews haven't just been mixed. They've been violently at odds.

iO9, who I trust on all matters geekly loved it with an unnatural physcial love that would be illegal in Kansas. Their write up/rubfuck described it as 'a pitch-perfect, badass update of a movie that is practically legendary'. The whole thing is here, and is spoilerific in parts, although it didn't much bother me.

"Filmmaker José Padilha does a brilliant job updating this scenario for a world where soldiers are working with robots in combat zones every day. And he retains the subversive politics of the original, too. We begin with a segment from a right-wing TV program, The Novak Element, hosted by Samuel L. Jackson doing a fantastic parody of a FOX commentator...

One of the central questions in Robocop is whether Murphy truly is human by the time Omnicorp is done with him. Is here merely a robot who thinks he's Murphy? In one of Murphy's training sequences — set to the music of classic prog band Focus — we discover that when he's in combat mode he "thinks he's in control" but actually the robot is making all his moves for him. "It's the illusion of freewill," Norton says. But this movie is smart enough to get us wondering about whether freewill is always an illusion, especially in a combat situation. Are we not always, to a certain extent, just acting out orders and doing what our bodies have been trained to do?

You'll be surprised at how deep the science fictional speculation is here. The action is pretty damn fun too. And Padilha keeps us focused on the bigger political picture by including several more hilarious segments of Jackson ranting on The Novak Element."

Over at Wired, however, the Angry Nerd is, well, angry.

Very very angry. Bad bad robocop.

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pi is gonna tell you...

Posted February 14, 2014

A good mate of mine that I don't trust with movies said it was terribad. I just have to give it a go... at least there's ONE good review. That's my excuse.

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Barnesm mumbles...

Posted February 14, 2014

are you insane, this was written to take a 13/14 year old along to see.

But you are right I have read other divergent reviews, which all seem to universally praise the 1980s movie, though at the time I don't recall the critics being quite so effusive. We seem to be in a Paul Verhoeven remake frenzy with Total Recall and now RoboCop - can Starship Troopers be far behind?

Lulu reckons...

Posted February 14, 2014

Showgirls?

Barnesm reckons...

Posted February 14, 2014

Starship Showgirls - combine the two films?

Murphy swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted February 14, 2014

This film is a lot better than the critics are giving it credit for.

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Barnesm reckons...

Posted February 14, 2014

although the loss of officer Lewis in the new film is a shame, she was my son's favourite from the 1980s movies, though the actor had the good sense to demand her character be killed rather than appear in the family-friendly (WTF were they thinking) Robocop 3.

Murphy asserts...

Posted February 14, 2014

Louis popped bubblegum in the original.

The new Lewis is a black detective and in someways, had the potential to do better. Sadly, he was never given that chance.

A lot of the human element discovery was left to Murphy's wife, who plays a greater role in the remake.

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Posted February 14, 2014

I just got back from seeing it.

No, there is none of the satirical snark of the original.

No, there is none of the cheeseball commercials.

Yes, there is a Glenn Beck analog in the form of Samuel L. Jackson.

Yes, there is a back to the future pacification program ala Iraq, this time set in Iran.

Yes, there is a cop named Murphy who gets is ass fucked up seven ways from Sunday.

Differences? Lewis is a black male who is devoted to his partner. His wife, who looks more like the original Louis, moves to save him via Omincorp's offer. And we have Gary Oldman who, unlike Robocop's original creators in 1987, had the most humanity of all.

The film's primary flaw is that the third act was fairly weak. It came to the right conclusion but there wasn't enough emotional resonance and power built into it to carry that punch. The relationship between Lewis and Murphy post ambush could have been better developed.

Strengths? Murphy's reaction to his condition is far more nuanced and balanced than in the original. His state is rather shocking and I won't spoil it. We also see a very troubled doctor/scientist who wants to help people being manipulated by a Steve Jobs style CEO in Michael Keaton.

There are many nods to the original material, to include the theme itself.

Overall, I liked it, flaws and all. In someways I think it has more emotional depth than the original. Is it better or worse? Nah.

Just different, and worth the price of admission.

My two cents.

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Murph

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John Birmingham mumbles...

Posted February 14, 2014

LEAVE! STEVE! ALONE!!!!

Murphy reckons...

Posted February 14, 2014

But. . . he's even got the sneaks and the weird clothing choices.

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Jayanthi's Atomic Cat would have you know...

Posted February 15, 2014

Unforgivable as it is, I haven't seen the original (I know, I know, Better Half has promised to buy it for me so this will be amended shortly). So not influenced by the comparison issue, I thought it was good overall. There were some things which were a little heavy-handed or clumsy, like the advanced military robot with a very crude threat assessment system, and the arguments about the pros and cons of military robots were pretty one-dimensional - I think a Sci Fi audience could have handled some more complexity on what is a really interesting issue. The neuro cybernetics were simplified but I thought that was reasonable given how complex they would be in 'real life'.

I really loved the humor in it - I hadn't expected to laugh like that. The action was satisfying and as a girly non-fan of gratuitous violence, my sensibilities were unoffended. Great, solid cast - I particularly liked Oldman in his role and cheered when the bad guys got their just desserts. Murphy's right, the ending lost some momentum and power, but I would give this a thumbs up.

Better Half and others tell me this movie is 'much less violent' than the original. As a result I suspect I may not like the original as much when I do see it.

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JBtoo has opinions thus...

Posted February 14, 2014

Abby Cornish is in it, so it can't be all bad.
Is it possible to 'spoiler' a remake?

Murphy puts forth...

Posted February 14, 2014

Yes, it is. Trust me.

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Blarkon puts forth...

Posted February 14, 2014

Tickets were purchased for me - so seeing it tomorrow - otherwise I probably would have waited until DVD.

While you are waiting Birmo - go buy Dredd on Blu-Ray. (though you may want to perform your own assessment as to whether or not Birmo Jr is ready for that level of violent splodey (and the splodey is violently awesome))

Murphy would have you know...

Posted February 14, 2014

This film is not Dredd but Dredd is worth the money (says the fanboy who has a copy on his iTunes). Get Elysium while you are at it as well.

#MakeaDreddSequel

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John Birmingham ducks in to say...

Posted February 14, 2014

Birmo Jnr is a big fan of The Expendables. He can probably handle Dredd.

Murphy has opinions thus...

Posted February 14, 2014

I think for true explodey goodness on Valentine's Day, you have to go with the Chemrail in Matt Damon's Elysium.

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Blarkon asserts...

Posted February 14, 2014

Okay, well don't say I didn't warn you about graphic splodey.

Matthew K swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted February 15, 2014

#MakeaDreddSequel

I second this motion. Such explodey, very baddies, much dystopian. Wow.

I'd have loved a Dredd film when I was his age, instead us fanboys kept the faith all through films like Robocop cherry picking Dredd for the subversive vibe and uncompromising ambiguous helmeted protagonist and were then rewarded with the Stallone film. *Sigh*

I assume it might have had something to do with the fact that a lot of the 2000ad crew seemed to have very left of centre views so negotiaitions with Hollywood might well have gone the same way as with Alan Moore. Moral of the tale is that if you stand on ideological principle too much you'll get frozen out of the process altogether and end up with less influence over the product.

That said Verhoeven did a good job of the first one and I am intrigued... But I don't see the NEED to remake R.Cop. Probably get this on DVD or summat

Lobes ducks in to say...

Posted February 15, 2014

I was quite impressed by Dredd. It was a lot more faithful to its 2000AD origins than the Stallone abomination.

I'd watch a sequel for sure. Theres such a wealth of stories in the Dredd universe.

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan puts forth...

Posted February 15, 2014

I hated Stallone's Dredd. I am using the word "hate" here about a movie. I watched Dredd on Netflix on a whim, and loved it.

ShaneAlpha would have you know...

Posted February 15, 2014

I watched Dredd in 3D at the cinema when it was released and have the 2D blu-ray. If you can, watch the 3D version, the slo-mo sequences in 3D are unbeleivably gorgeous.

I wasn't sure about Karl Urban going into it but he seriously nailed the character despite the differences between this cinema world and the comic original.

There is a sequal comic due for release shortly called "Dredd:Underbelly". So, yeah, nice one there Karl. :)

If they are able to get financing for the next movie you can expect the Dark Judges storyline. With hopefully the best Dredd line ever.

http://comicimpact.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/fear.jpg

Rob puts forth...

Posted February 16, 2014

I liked both Dredd movies. The art direction, set decoration and costumes of the first one were brilliant. The director Danny Cannon did well with what he had, excellent editing too. It was just a bit too hackneyed when it came to hollywood stereo types, the funny sidekick etc, thrown in kiss at the end. But it looked like the comics I liked as a kid. cheesy overblown, super bright colours. The second one I liked too alot, I bought the bluray and watch it a fait bit. It was great on the big screen. But it lacked the sarcastic humour, except maybe the vagrant crushed by the security door, If they did one with Chopper the sky surfer I would be in 2000ad fanboy heaven. a nemesis the warlock tv series ala game of thrones would be super too,

As for robocop I might wait until it comes out on dvd. (or maybe a $12 bluray) Movies are a bit too expensive to be dissapointed in.

pi has opinions thus...

Posted February 21, 2014

#MakeaDreddSequel

It really has to be done. That movie was a dead-set instant classic.

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Quokka mutters...

Posted February 14, 2014

Excellent.

I wonder if they'll ever remake Hardware.

The Mark 13 scared the sh!it out of me.

Murphy ducks in to say...

Posted February 14, 2014

I remember seeing Hardware at a movie theater in Manhattan, Kansas.

Yeah, ah, they don't need to remake that one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8Ne9sRcSrM

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ShaneAlpha ducks in to say...

Posted February 15, 2014

With the Marvel and occasionally DC properties doing so well as movies I live in hope of more 2000AD sourced movies.

Like, in order of preference:

Nemesis the Warlock

Rogue Trooper

Slaine

ABC Warriors

and for pure balls out comedy

DR and Quinch

Rob reckons...

Posted February 16, 2014

f**k yeah! D.R and Quinch go to Hollywood. Look out for the Oranges Marlon!

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BigWillieStyle ducks in to say...

Posted February 15, 2014

Here's the only review you need;

http://www.theonion.com/video/the-onion-reviews-robocop,35252/?playlist=recent-news

Jayanthi's Atomic Cat mumbles...

Posted February 15, 2014

Ha! Good one, BWS. Nothing like a bit of historical context.

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Posted February 21, 2014

Ha... that's fantastic.

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Jayanthi's Atomic Cat reckons...

Posted February 15, 2014

Haha! Better Half and others are in agreement with Angry Nerd re the jawline issue - that was the main criticism bandied about, in fact.

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Blarkon mumbles...

Posted February 15, 2014

Went and saw it. Enjoyed it. Wasn't staggeringly great and not something, like Pacific Rim, that it pays to see in a cinema.

Different film from the original.

I suspect because parts of the dystopian humor of the first isn't as funny because we're either living it, or it's looking like its coming anyway. The cartoon capitalists of the original are more nuanced in this one. I suspect that's driving some of the negative reactions here - its hard to laugh at the idea of the government handing over the capacity to kill to drones when it's already happened.

Jayanthi's Atomic Cat swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted February 16, 2014

I think the human operators are still in the loop though for final kill authorization now though, is that still the case? Is there any legislation about re having to retain them? I've only read papers recommending such lego be put in place (amongst other recommendations) but haven't followed up further.

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S.M. Stirling reckons...

Posted February 18, 2014

Saw it today. Not bad, not nearly as good as the original, and soooooooo Hollywood-bubble-land in its general outlook.

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pi puts forth...

Posted February 21, 2014

Friggin awesome movie. Robocop.

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Quokka is gonna tell you...

Posted February 23, 2014

We just went to see it this arvo.

Mixed feelings, we watched the original 1 & 2 yesterday on DVD. I'd agree with a lot of the other opinions here. Some interesting ideas, a bit weak on humour & in the final stage the writers got lazy & could have done better.

I missed the female Lewis character & Abbie Cornish didn't do much other than sniffled and parade around as a jeans model. I was trying to figure out WTF she was in there for & in the end decided it was probably just for product placement. Maybe I'm miffed because of the lack of strong female characters but given the number of other nerdy bespectacled womenfolk in the audience I'd say I'm not alone.

The original Lewis was a force to be reckoned with (remember the scene when Murphy first laid eyes on her in R1?) whereas Abbie Cornish looked like she spent her days applying eye shadow to her face & Mr Sheen to the coffee table.

Definitely worth seeing, but I'm left wondering what might have been if Joss Whedon had written it.

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