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New Star Trek trailer

Posted March 22, 2013 into Movies by John Birmingham

Scuse me for dropping this in a stand alone entry. It should have gone into the entry below, but I suspect we have a few issues to work thru related to hosting multiple vids in one post.

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Blarkon would have you know...

Posted March 22, 2013

Looks like a fun film. I'll see it the day it comes out. But it doesn't seem like a Star Trek film (unless there's some moral or ethical dilemma that the crew face beyond "how much arse are we going to kick). Star Trek, when it's great, is about ideas. Undiscovered Country has an excellent space battle, but it's a better story about not being able to give up old hatreds. Kahn has the Genesis Device - has the good guys unwittingly develop the ultimate doomsday weapon where you can go and terraform an enemy planet into a human ready utopia.

Say what you want about the plots of the Transformers films (which have been generally rubbish), the technical execution of the "blowing shit the fuck up" of the Transformers films was excellent. The destruction of Chicago in TF III was mind blowingly good - especially the bits inside the collapsing sky scrapers.

(I'm a huge fan of both franchises - though I've never really warmed to the "bayformer" designs)

BrianC puts forth...

Posted March 22, 2013

I agree, I'll definately see it probably a couple of times. The underlying theme seems to be Revenge/Vengance/Justice and what the crew will be prepared to do get it. I hope they spend some time defing and prioritising the difference between those concepts. That would take it from being an 'slopdy SciFi to a good trek film.

Barnesm swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted March 22, 2013

To be fair the bits I have discover talk a lot about betraying the principles in this case The Prime Directive to save friends in this case Spock. Which is effectively Star Trek III.

and thats just in the first 15 minutes.

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JG mutters...

Posted March 22, 2013

Thanks, John.

Looks alright although I prefer the original version.

JG

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Lobes mumbles...

Posted March 22, 2013

I thought the heading said "New Stark Trek Trailer". My first thought was "awesome, Iron Man is going to be in the new Star Trek movie!"

John Birmingham ducks in to say...

Posted March 22, 2013

Naked.

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John Birmingham would have you know...

Posted March 22, 2013

An, er, trekkin' somewhere

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Lobes is gonna tell you...

Posted March 22, 2013

I thought the heading said "New Stark Trek Trailer". My first thought was "awesome, Iron Man is going to be in the new Star Trek movie!"

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HAVOCK21 asserts...

Posted March 22, 2013

DAM!...whos the blonde!!!!!

Blarkon reckons...

Posted March 22, 2013

Alice Eve.

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DNABeast mutters...

Posted March 22, 2013

My first reaction to seeing that the bad guy is Sherlock Holmes was that the Star Trek crew are fucked. There's no way they're going to be able to beat that guy.

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zeniph would have you know...

Posted March 22, 2013

havent seen a star trek movie at cinema since the Search for Spock - but this I'll see.

Barnesm asserts...

Posted March 22, 2013

go see the first reboot as well in preparation for this one.

zeniph is gonna tell you...

Posted March 22, 2013

thank you - shall heed your advice

MickH mutters...

Posted March 23, 2013

the first reboot was awsome Zen

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AgingGamer mutters...

Posted March 22, 2013

You had me at Star Trek. Karl Urban has nailed the character of "Bones". The man can do no wrong. However I'm yet to see Dredd.

Barnesm ducks in to say...

Posted March 22, 2013

Dredd was pretty Fraking awesome for those of us who grew up reading the comic. Even wiped the horrible stain that was the Stallone Dredd movie.

MickH reckons...

Posted March 23, 2013

Totally agree Barnsey,

Was much closer to the comic and i thought the cast selection rocked. Andreson was always my hero.

I hope they make more

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tqft asserts...

Posted March 22, 2013

Explodey shoot 'em up Star Trek is my kind of fun.

Hopefully there will also be some plot & thinky.

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Sparty is gonna tell you...

Posted March 22, 2013

Very very worried about trek. I say statrek but based on trailers there seems very little startreking. Makes "Going boldly, strange new wolrds etc" seem irrelevent.

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xenodyssey mumbles...

Posted March 23, 2013

It looks very entertaining but not a lot like Roddenberry's idea of Star Trek. I mean from the flags hanging from the buildings they still have the same old nation states? They still wear ties??? In the 23rd Century.

Other than that it does maintain the tradtion of the Trek movies. Evil/demented bad guy. Mass destruction. Enterprise crashing/blowing up (every third or so movie).

At least I've been enjoying the prequel regular comic series, some interesting stories there in the JJ universe.

Just hope if they decide to do a new TV series it's more like the Titan books where we can get back to exploring the galaxy, meeting alien races and exchanging ideas with them rather than shooting them.

MickH swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted March 23, 2013

I can't beleive your vapping it before you've even seen it!

Geez give it a chance!

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drej reckons...

Posted March 23, 2013

Loved OS Trek in the 70s & 80s as a kid,while always waiting for more/better ships and 'splosions. Looks like I win.

For all that, not a fan of the new big E - hope the teasers of her untimely demise play out.

And agree with xenoddysey, bring back the 5 year mission.

Blarkon asserts...

Posted March 23, 2013

I have almost all the Enterprises (except an Ambassador class that isn't finished, the "season 5 NX-01 refit" (http://s177.photobucket.com/user/dgclaws/media/NX01refit.jpg.html) where the kit hasn't arrived yet, and the Enterprise-J (which to my knowledge hasn't had a replica). My least fave is either the E or the vanilla NX-01.

The only thing about the Abrams Enterprise that I'm dubious about is the claims about its size. The production people say bigger than Picard's 1701-D. The film didn't make it look much bigger than the original.

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tqft reckons...

Posted March 23, 2013

I want to see a non-rebooted ST universe movie post-voyager return - Ds9/Voyager - Worf, Dax, 7of9, the Doctor.

OK you can have some TNG people as well - O'Brien, LaForge & Belanna mixing it up in engineering

MickH ducks in to say...

Posted March 23, 2013

that would be cool

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New Star Trek trailer bringin' the awesome. Old Culture fan film doubles it down

Posted March 22, 2013 into Movies by John Birmingham

Read a kinda disturbing interview with Bryan Burk, the producer of Star Trek Into Darkness, who seemed to be threatening to morph the whole thing into a sort of loud, tedious Transformer franchise. It kicks off with a qoute that reads: "'There are those who like Star Trek and those who think people who like Star Trek are insane... I was one of them".Sure, he pulls it back by explaining that he and Abrams are trying to open up the world to a new generation of believers, and I think the SMH piece did him no favours in the way it was framed. I mean, seriously, they cited A Good Day To Die Hard and The Hangover 2 in the first couple of pars, the justification being that "Hollywood something something sequels, yeah."Burk thinks this Star Trek will be more accesible than the last one, which didn't seem to me to have particularly high barriers to entry. ''People who have avidly avoided Star Trek will be pleasantly surprised that this isn't what they were expecting.''None of it sounds promising. And then you get the trailer, with all the bright shiny and the splodey and the loud noises and you think, WTF, this is gonna be great anyway.

I'd embed the Star Trek vid, but for some reason, every time I do that it totally fucking borks the entry.

So if you want to see it, go directly to the Tube.

Or just watch it in the post directly above.

Ironically, or coincidently, or whatever, shortly after I saw the Star Trek trailer, Murph tweeted me a link to an old fan film on Youtube. Well, old in Internet years, anyway. It's called Something Real and is based on the Culture novels of Iain M Banks. My initial reaction was "Awesome!". My next reaction was "Oh no, this is going to suck a bag of dicks." I imagined GSV's made out of duct tape and cardboard boxes, and old Star Wars toys repurposed from droids into drones. A million light years away from the truth. Something Real is a high spec, professional effort.

I wonder if it was made as pitch to try get something bigger up? I was going to run this second vid later today, probably this evening, but having watched both I was taken by how different they were, even though both are telling SF stories. There's very little splodey in the Culture film, although what there is has been handled beautifully. It's mostly an exchange of ideas, which, when you think about it, is what the original Star Trek was all about; coating interesting ideas in a sweet, sweet bon bon of SF chocolate. In that way, Something Real is probably closer to the Star Trek ideal than Into Darkness. I'd still watch and enjoy both, however.

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TC asserts...

Posted March 22, 2013

Wow... that's pretty cool. Very similar to the start of Player of Games.

I like the sharing of ideas... especially with lasers, robots and explosions. Banks does it all very well and I'm looking forward to reading some more of his books.

BrianC mumbles...

Posted March 22, 2013

I was thinking that exact same thing.

Matthew K would have you know...

Posted March 22, 2013

Clearly heavily Player of Games.

Basnks has always said that stories set in the utopia of The Culture would be dead dull, the only conflict would be who got snubbed by who and loads of stuff like this - rich spoilt people yearning for an authenticity they can not comprehend. Hence his books being set on the edge of The Culture where it intersects with others.

The crossover zone where the Venn diagram circles intersect is always the most potentially fertile in many things.

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Blarkon puts forth...

Posted March 22, 2013

I think that the fan film missed something of the feel of Banks universe. It felt more like Rosencrantz And Guildenstern Are Dead. Then again I suppose there is a Stoppardesque nature to the discussion of the Culture Minds.

John Birmingham swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted March 22, 2013

Well it's a bit of an ask to cram the feel of a whole universe developed over eleventy umpteen books into a 6 minute vid. I thought they pretty much nailed it, right down to the dim wheel of the orbital off in the misty distance.

And that conversation felt like it had been penned by Banks himself, right down the slightly indulgent/exasperated tone of the drone.

Blarkon is gonna tell you...

Posted March 22, 2013

In an illustrated guide to the Discworld, Pratchett said each person holds a different version of an author's universe in their head and that all of these versions are equally valid

BrianC mutters...

Posted March 22, 2013

I have to agree with JB. Culture always made me think of a declining Roman Empire proped up by expansion. This gave me that sense of purposelessness(is that a word?) what do you do when you have it so good that you dont even have to govern yourself?

Matthew K swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted March 22, 2013

Decadence. Or ennui.

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w from brisbane reckons...

Posted March 22, 2013

''People who have avidly avoided Star Trek will be pleasantly surprised that this isn't what they were expecting.''

They must be taking out the bits where people intelligently converse.

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Murphy has opinions thus...

Posted March 22, 2013

Frankly, even though I am not a fan of this universe, I thought it captured it fairly accurately.

Glad you liked it, Birmo.

Respects,

Murph

On the Outer Marches

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TheWah would have you know...

Posted March 22, 2013

I've always had a big old hairy man-crush on The Culture universe. Not sure how anyone could see living in it as boring. Access to any resource you desire, the ability to travel anywhere... what more could you want? Only a lack of imagination could make that boring.

So saying, I'm hesitant to wish for a Culture based movie. There's very little chance of a movie getting it right - and I don't need a movie because Banks is still feeding my Culture addiction book after book.

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Barnesm would have you know...

Posted March 22, 2013

I like how its looks professional but I don't think it would be super expensive. Its the dialog that shines for me. Pitch perfect for the interpaly between the drone and the guy.

If a kickstart wa set up for this I'd kick in the equivent for the first season on DVD.

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Escape from New York Remake!

Posted March 19, 2013 into Movies by John Birmingham

I always found the end of the original installment a bit disturbing, the way Snake Plissken decided to plunge the world into a new Dark Age. I sort of got that he was a good lookin' loner who lived by his own rules, but still, Snake, seriously?

Won't stop me hanging out, no doubt hopelessly, for a remake, somehow connected with Gerard '300' Butler and the producers of the Lethal Weapon, Die Hard and Predator series. Unlike Screen Crave, where I read of the redo, I'm not even that fazed by the idea of a three parter, with the first installment being an origin story. Snake: The Making of a Bad Ass.

I figure there'd be more than enough splodey and witty quips to plaster over any paper thin plotholes.

Oh, and while I'm at it, Kurt Russell, most underrated actor of the 1980s. Snake Plissken and Jack O'Neill? Plus that big thing in little China film that the ladies like? Just retrofuckingspectively give him all the Oscars and be done with it.

One prob, which arises with the possibility of an origin story prequel, is letting some know nothing film school grad screen writer get all jammed up worrying about a remake as a dialogue driven character study. Not just no, but hell no.

As Screen Crave says:

What’s been lost more recently in mainstream movies is the sense of events over people. Snake Plissken is not the ideal choice, but he’s all they’ve got. In Die Hard, John McClane is just dealing with the situation. The best recent example is probably Attack the Block. By building a trilogy around the character, they will be robbing what made the character interesting. Audiences may hate or love Snake Plisken, however they feel about him, it doesn’t change what makes the movie interesting.

In fact, this makes me wonder wether the time is upon us for a remake of the original Stargate movie.

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damian has opinions thus...

Posted March 19, 2013

What rough beast, eh?

So they'll remake <i>Starship Troopers</i>, merely omitting the unnecessary and confusing nuace. Likewise for Full Metal Jacket, Apocalypse Now and Dr Strangelove.

Dan ducks in to say...

Posted March 20, 2013

I want it to be all Neil Patrick Harris

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Barnesm would have you know...

Posted March 20, 2013

Though wasn't the entire Satrgate SG-1 series just a remake of the Stargate movie.

Sure Snake 'Call me Pliskin' is cool, but dammit I am still waiting on my promised Balck 7 reboot, can we not organise some sort of priority listing for these remakes.

Barnesm ducks in to say...

Posted March 20, 2013

Blake 7 reboot. Do'h

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TC would have you know...

Posted March 20, 2013

Man I loved the Escapes in their day - remakes always worry me but really... what's there to get wrong here? Problem in some city, bring in Snake, explosions, growl from Snake, people die, more explosions, surf the wave. Sure, the wave was in LA, and is probably the jump the shark moment, especialy with those dodgy graphics... but it was cool. That's probably the crux of the movie - coolness. Make it about dialogue and back story and family and all those sad events that led to Snake being who he is and you may as well just re-make Home and Away.

Speaking of Oscars for Kurt - Tango & Cash. Awesome.

And finally - the only movie and actor at the time that I found got close to Kurt's enigmatic style and brilliant approach to conflict was They Live with Roddy Piper. I'm pretty sure Roddy was channelling Kurt in the bank scene... "I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum!"

w from brisbane thrillingly puts forth...

Posted March 20, 2013

You will be looking forward to "Rowdy" Roddy Piper's 2013 movie release.

Pro Wrestlers vs Zombies

A Cheeseburger special!

pi swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted March 20, 2013

Lol... great minds think alike. Came here to say exactly the same thing about They Live!

Bondiboy66 asserts...

Posted March 20, 2013

They Live is an under appreciated CLASSIC

Barnesm reckons...

Posted March 21, 2013

OBEY

MARRY AND REPRODUCE

NO INDEPENDENT THOUGHT

CONSUME

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w from brisbane, zombie, swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted March 20, 2013

Wow, there is a promotional video for Pro Wrestlers vs Zombies!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59qPKe4HZQg

TC mumbles...

Posted March 20, 2013

And here I thought you were just shitting me! That looks awesome... awesomely bad. Or maybe just bad.

That said... Roddy seems to have aged remarkably well.

w from brisbane admiringly mutters...

Posted March 20, 2013

TC, how very 'auteur'.

'Escape from New York' and 'They Live' have the same director. Nice.

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tqft mutters...

Posted March 20, 2013

Has there been any original material out of Hollywood recently? Zombies vs Pro-wrestlers looks at least original.

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Lobes mumbles...

Posted March 20, 2013
Escape from New York is an awesome pizza chain as well.

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beeso mutters...

Posted March 20, 2013

Escape from LA is the second worst movie of all time.

w from brisbane pleadingly is gonna tell you...

Posted March 20, 2013

'Escape from LA' is a camp spoof of 'Escape from New York'.

p.s. Stop the torture! Please. please, please, what is the worst movie of all time?

pi puts forth...

Posted March 20, 2013

Worst movie of all time?

The Replacements.

<span style="line-height: 1.6em;">http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0191397/reviews?filter=hate</span>

The haters have it.

beeso swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted March 20, 2013

Boxing Helana is the worst movie of all time. By a long way.

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pi would have you know...

Posted March 20, 2013

Can't wait. One of my favourite movie-makers John Carpenter (both Big Trouble and Escape). Will be interesting to see what they can do with this... it really would. The character of both the Cabbie, Duke and Brain would be ones that actors could really get their teeth into.

But seriously... remake a Carpenter movie? They Live!.

"I have come here to chew bubble-gum and to kick-ass. And I'm all out of bubble-gum.".

Ya can't beat that kind of dialogue.

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Blarkon ducks in to say...

Posted March 20, 2013

There were a few whispers on i09 that there were going to be sequels made to the first Stargate movie that sidesteps the SG1 continuity (given that time travel is possible in Stargate, why not) - but revival doesn't seem likely given the fate of SGU.

However there is a new Stargate video game for iOS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf4iyw9eIv0

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Therbs reckons...

Posted March 20, 2013

A remake of Dark Star would be cool. The end bit, jumping on surfboards riding the shock wave of a planet-killer bomb would bring the awesome in 3D with The Atlantics 'Bombora' as a soundtrack.

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w from brisbane would have you know...

Posted March 21, 2013

Beeso has called it. 'Boxing Helena' is the worst movie of all time.

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Toxteth O'Grady mutters...

Posted March 21, 2013

Hey, it wasn't just the 80's that Kurt made great films! He was pretty good as that hippy dude in Big Lebowski, and that Tron movie from a couple of years ago that totally ripped off that Regurgitator music video, and when he played Obi Wan's dad Kweejong from Starwars (the first one. No, not that one, the other first one that came after). That one with Meg Ryan drowning was a bit naff, though.

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w from brisbane would have you know...

Posted March 21, 2013

Great idea ShaneAlpha! Veronica Mars and Weapons of Choice.

Veronica Mars investigates the disappearance of Buzz Bidtrup, a high school friend who had mysteriously disappeared while mowing the lawn of Professor Manning Pope.

Veronica discovers that, not only has Buzz Bidtrup disappeared, but no one can find the mower! Beginning to suspect that Professor Pope is interfering with the very fabric of space and time, Veronica sneaks aboard the JRV Nagoya ….

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Bunyip mumbles...

Posted March 21, 2013

Is it too soon to suggest a Buffy reboot? Asking for a friend.

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