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Yes, pretty cool, kid

Posted January 14 by John Birmingham

I dunno that it's the best short video, but it's pretty good. If only because of all the triggered ashflakes it leaves in its wake.

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Barnesm has opinions thus...

Posted January 15
That seems fairly straight forward anyone know when we are going to start?

Dave W has opinions thus...

Posted January 15
Oooohhhh, sorry- we spent so long saying that we didn't believe that there was anything wrong in the first place, that it's now too do anything and we're officially going to the "adapt to the new reality" stage.

And, by the way, totally not sorry.

/satire

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Rob swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted January 27
I feel a bit sorry for Greta. I admire her commitment and ability to create action over something that it is super important. But what happens when she wants to do something else.

I remember being a very 15 year old, very committed, anti vivisectionist, anti nuclear, pacifist anarchist.

Zines, protests, petitions. Groovy hair.

But then I stopped. And did something else. and changed my hair style and stopped being so protesty.

and then as I got older I saw the older commies and anarchists shamelessly use younger people as their foot soldiers, to be arrested and beaten by police, and do stupid shit like commit arson on animal labs, all the while the organisers got themselves cushy jobs in the trade unions and government.

So I hope Greta is Ok, and I also hope if she wants to dye her hair black and follow bands around Europe and have a good time going to metal festivals she can do that too. and that older people don't use her up for their own purposes and she doesn't end up feeling used.

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A thing I like to watch

Posted January 13 into Telly by John Birmingham

Bosch. I like to watch Bosch on Amazon. There, I said it. It feels a bit like a confession because I’m not a fan of police procedurals. There’ve been a few cop shows over the years that have pulled me in, but usually because they were as much about cultural investigation, as they were about crime. The Wire, of course. And Homicide (Life on the Streets).

But Amazon’s adaptation of Michael Connelly’s best selling cop novels, while deepening the colours of its narrative palate with some consideration of LA’s racial politics, remains at heart a procedural.

Titus Welliver’s Harry Bosch is the sort of detective for whom the word ‘dogged’ seems inadequate.

“Cops, they grind, that’s what they do,” says one villain, a Spec Ops captain gone bad. “It’s kind of admirable in a way.”

“Get off your ass and knock on doors,” says the handwritten note on Harry’s cubicle in the Hollywood Homicide bull pen where he works.

The bullpen, like a lot of cop shows, is where the detectives let their human sides show. We do visit with them in their private lives, especially Bosch whose wife, a disgraced FBI agent turned professional gambler, turned FBI informant, thickens up some of the earlier season plots as well as powering the emotional engine that drive’s Harry personal choices. But the B-Story cops also get their characters built out in subplots and exchanges that rise well above table stakes for this the golden era of premium TV.

Welliver was a surprise to me as Bosch. I’d always imagined Connelly’s detective would be played by a younger Clint Eastwood, perhaps because his name is Harry (as in Callaghan).

But Welliver really owns this role. His performance is what you come back for week after week, or ep after ep, since the whole season drops at once.

I just finished the fifth season and I’m thinking of going back to S1 while I wait for the next one.

Like a chump.

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Murphy_of_Missouri would have you know...

Posted January 13
That actor is good in everything he does.

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insomniac is gonna tell you...

Posted January 13
We've just started watching so having binged S1 we now have four more fresh seasons to watch.
TW is good but there really is some bad acting going on, eg Irvin Irving. Thankfully the series is good enough to be able to gloss over shit like that.

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she_jedi ducks in to say...

Posted January 13
Ooh I'll have to check this out. I'm currently powering through season 4 of the Expanse, and then I have to finish The Man in the High Castle, because its final season dropped just before Christmas. Have you seen that one JB? It's AMAZING. And it has real Nazis in it!

John Birmingham asserts...

Posted January 13
It's another Thing I Like To Watch, although I'm still only in the first season. Damn this golden age of television.

she_jedi has opinions thus...

Posted January 14
The current Golden Age of Television is a curse and a joy all at once. The first season was incredible, and somehow the subsequent seasons have managed to be even better each time. I'd love a post sharing your thoughts on it when you're done with all four seasons :)

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Barnesm mutters...

Posted January 14
Its not like whenever I fire up Amazon Prime I'm not greeted by my ever-expanding to_watch list that you have to add to it. Even just on Amazon there are dozens - along with Man in the High Castle, The Expanse (obviously), The Tick two seasons, The Boys... Too Many Shows.

she_jedi has opinions thus...

Posted January 14
The Boys was fantastic!

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insomniac asserts...

Posted January 14
Have peeps been watching Goliath with Billy Bob? S1 was great, S2 was ok, and stick with S3 as it gets a little weird but everything gets tied up by the end.

John Birmingham would have you know...

Posted January 14
Nope. Saw it flash past and missed it.

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tqft asserts...

Posted January 14
Warning the following list is extensive, all basically new stuff too
I managed to watch Spyfall 1 & 2 on the weekend, but am way behind on The Expanse
This list is overwhelming (and just 2020 new stuff)
https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2020/01/io9s-essential-guide-to-2020s-sci-fi-fantasy-and-superhero-tv/

Note: ST:Picard Jan 24 Amazon Australia

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FormerlyKnownAsSimon reckons...

Posted January 20
Gah, i hate these threads. It's always about the tv streaming service i don't have at the time. I need to enact my strategy of two paid services for a year then swap. But that then means i can't talk about it with anyone else because i'm either ahead or behind. I also run the risk of the service i just left picking up the show i want to watch on the new one and missing it altogether.

I was glad i caught Ash vs Evil Dead at the time.

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Bangar swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted February 6
Thanks for the recommend, maybe lead with Jeri Ryan S2 for the complete sell. I'll suggest Backstrom though it's a Fox show one season only

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Legacy of Ghosts. Review

Posted January 10 into Books by John Birmingham

I half recall a promise made by Edgar Rice Burroughs, probably in the opening pages of Tarzan, that once the reader commenced their journey with him, he would so completely carry them so far away from their workaday concerns that the real world would disappear and they would be in the deepest jungle with the ape man.

It is the promise of all good novels.

And a promise Alicia Wanstall-Burke delivered on in LEGACY OF GHOSTS.

I skim-read about a hundred pages of the draft manuscript late last year, with an eye to giving Alicia a cover quote. It was pretty obvious she had the goods on this story, so I happily endorsed the book.

A few weeks ago I went back to it.

The bushfires were at their destructive height (damn those exploding cow pats) and it felt a bit perverse to be watching Netflix while the country burned. Taking refuge in a novel, however? That seemed less gross.

Insert contented sigh.

We’re all still going to die when civilisation collapses soon, but at least we’ll have books in the rubble. It’s early days yet, but THE LEGACY OF GHOSTS, Alicia’s follow up to her debut novel BLOOD OF HEIRS might just have been what I needed to reboot my reading habit. Like most people I’ve had trouble focussing on long form reading the last few years. We all know the reasons. Digital distraction. Too much Netflix. A hyper accelerated news cycle. That guy who was wrong on the internet. (Havoc. It was Havoc),

Sitting down with a book seemed too much like hard work, especially to the screeching dopamine addicted distraction monkey in my head.

I finally went back to Alicia’s novel when the monkey screeching got so loud I couldn’t sleep. It was one hot night, with smoke choking the southern capitals, an army of bots and trolls on the march, and my teetering Netflix stack o’ shame threatening to fall and crush me underneath its immeasurable vastness.

Fuck this, I thought. I’m unplugging.

I picked up my kindle...

Yes, I am aware of the irony, or dissonance or whatever the hell it is, but stay with me.

... I picked up my Kindle and a stiff drink, and repaired to the library to restart LEGACY OF GHOSTS. I meant to read for thirty minutes, after which I’d let myself have another dispiriting flick through the infinite scroll of unwatched and half-watched streaming options.

An hour and a half later I had missed my bedtime.

I finished LEGACY late last night, after blowing through another bedtime hour and it has left me with possum eyes and an irritable, sleep-deprived disposition – at least until I can snag an afternoon nap.

But it was totally worth it.

Alicia’s debut with BLOOD OF HEIRS was impressive, but LEGACY makes a powerful case for her striking improvement as a writer. I say striking because she has done it on her own. No publishing house stood behind her. What you get on the page is her own hard work. She very obviously invests in good editing, artwork and production on the gorgeous looking hardbacks she insists on putting out - but again, these are all artistic production choices she makes, so she gets credit for them too.

And so to the story.

If BLOOD was an origin story for our two heroes, Ran and Lidan (spoiler, it was) in LEGACY we get to watch them grow into their full power. In Ran’s case this literally means the magic he is able to cast on the world, in Lidan’s we marvel not just at her prowess as a ranger, her riding, fighting and leadership skills, but also at her coming into power as grown-ass woman.

The saga, like football, is a game of two halves (sorry) and in Legacy those halves come together, but for me this is Lidan’s story. With Ran we quest through frozen mountain and dusty plain, fight ensorcelled zombies and bitey ice dragons, throw around a bit of Force Lightning and hang out with a cool ghost.

But Lidan has to deal with her parents, and that’s a helluva thing. Dad is the sort of Barbarian chieftain you build to kick serious arse in the Diablo franchise. Mum is... difficult. And there’s the usual trouble with boyfriends, siblings, the walking dead, witches, marauding enemy tribes, a douchebag manchild, knife vs sword, teen drinking, dark curses...

You get the idea. This girl is busy. And she has feelings. Lots and lots of feelings about all this accursed busyness.

The writing, especially of Ran’s passage through the icy towers, and Lidan’s many, many knife fights, is exemplary. It transports in the way Edgar Rice Burroughs promised, carrying you away from your shitty day and into another realm.

I don’t do spoilers, so I won’t discuss plot, but the narrative arcs are precisely engineered and deftly executed. The timing is especially on point, with the disparate subplots coming together in a hugely satisfying way. I found the more I read the more I wanted to read (and the less interested I became in other distractions). Eventually, I found dipping into LEGACY for just a scene or two was an effective break from my own deadlines. That’s something I haven’t done in many years.

Of course now I’m stuck waiting for the next one. Like a chump.

Go buy copy to keep her at the keyboard. I need this.

Legacy of Ghosts (The Coraidic Sagas Book 2)

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jl ducks in to say...

Posted January 10
Ditto on appreciating the work Alicia put into this on her own dime; she did a very nice job. My own take on this over at the Beast, etc. Well done, Alicia!

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Bondiboy66 puts forth...

Posted January 10
I shall look for these two books forthwith!

"Stuck waiting for the next one. Like a chump'.....I too get that from Certain Authors *cough*

Barnesm is gonna tell you...

Posted January 10
yes indeed the poetic justice struck me as well.

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she_jedi mutters...

Posted January 10
I desperately want to talk about a plot point, but without spoilers, so here goes... I'm with you on this being Lidan's story. Ran's development as a character and a person is outstanding, but Lidan's journey is the heart and soul of the book, and in particular, (plot point!) her growing into her power not just as a grown ass woman and warrior, but as a leader among her people. There's a series of moments where stuff happens that affects the tribe, and she realises she is seeing these things through a different prism than her elders, and that shift in her perspective is incredibly powerful. I too ripped through this and am utterly bereft that I have to wait. I told Alicia this on Twitter and she just laughed and said she'd better get started writing the third one. Such a cruel mistress! I gave it all the stars at the Beast :)

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balri asserts...

Posted January 10
I’m halfway through Blood Of Heirs after you posted it on Facebook and it’s a cracking read so far. I’ll definitely have to get into the sequel

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Peter Bradley swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted January 13
Outstanding. Loved her first outing. I wasn't aware the next book had been released. I promised myself not to read a trilogy (or series in fact) again until the whole lot was out but then I slip and I impatiently wait - Looking at you JB. Onto it now.

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The Shattered Skies. (Teaser)

Posted January 8 into Writing by John Birmingham

I'm deep into the deadine for the next book in this series. To keep myself honest (and motivated) I might drop the occasional paragraph in here. This is a from an early chapter.

At this distance, the star was a far away point of light, slightly larger, slightly brighter than the thousands of its kin scattered through the local cluster. Solar winds streamed out from the G2 main sequence burner, ionised particles and magnetic fields whipping through the heliosphere, inflating a protective bubble around the local volume, safeguarding the planets within from the harsh radioactive bath of interstellar space. In one sense the volume was small. Just one rocky planet and two gas giants, a modest little neighbourhood that had nonetheless occasioned a savage conflict between two human tribes over their contending claims to that remote and lonely world. In another sense, of course, the measure of three dimensional space both tribes thought of as the local volume was immense; so impossibly vast that the human mind was actually incapable of truly understanding it, having evolved over millions of years to comprehend distance as something measured in the number of steps needed to find food or water in a small patch of forest or savannah. At the very edge of this unimaginably huge, somewhat fluid area of space, in the electromagnetic turbulence of the constantly moving boundary between the bubble of the star’s heliosphere and the radioactive plasma of the interstaller medium, something profound was about to happen. The structure of spacetime itself suddenly flexed and warped before utterly collapsing to vomit up first one, then two human spacecraft.
A tribe had returned to its hunting grounds.

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she_jedi swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted January 9
Oh this is GOOD! I loved The Cruel Stars so much I can’t wait for the sequel.

Unrelated, but I went to watch the new season of the Expanse yesterday, only to discover I hadn’t watched S3. I spent about 10 mins confusedly wondering how the hell I missed an entire season in the switch from Netflix to Amazon Prime, only to realise that now I had TWO seasons to binge. WIN! The reason I bring this up is that it is filling the Cruel Stars universe shaped hole in my life until you’re done writing the Shattered Skies. Just sayin’.

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Barnesm swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted January 9
This is certainly stimulating the cerebral juices (esghh!) in anticipation for the next book. Just checked, doesn't appear to be available to pre-order. How will the beast of Bezo's know how awesomely this tome is anticipated if we can't pre-order it yet?

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insomniac is gonna tell you...

Posted January 9
Related to your Authors for Firies offer on the twitz, I'd like to see Skomo D'Nyer and P-Turr Dartton punched in the face by someone like B'Ruz B'Chanee and R'Za B'Rati.

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Therbs ducks in to say...

Posted January 9
Now all I want to know is the condition of the occupants of those interstellar craft. That is aside from them being bits of space barf, probably carrot. Are they space barf carrot? if so would a space wabbit eat them?
Can't really see a giant bugs bunny munching on a couple of shiploads of your characters but it would be as funny as fuck.

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Panda charger

Posted January 7 into Science and Tech by John Birmingham

I bought myself a very cheap Qi charger from the Beast of Bezos over Christmas, one of a bunch of drunken purchases that have started to turn up at my PO box.

This thing was about $11 and I had my doubts it would even work.

It works, and surprisingly well. I have a chunky OtterBox case on my iPwn 11. It's thick and ungainly but it provides good drop protection - already tested and verified in the field.

It's so thick and difficult to remove, however, that I'd already decided I wouldn't be trying to crowbar it off everytime I wanted to used a Qi charger. Not a problem, as it turns out. My Chinese Panda friend is powerful enough to send plenty of life giving e-vibes through the case. I guess if its powerful enough for the Ministry of State Security to harvest the keyclicks from all of my bank logins, it can trickle charge a phone thru 5mm of plastic.

I've got it sitting on my desk next to the iMac, plugged into a USB slot around the back. It's not actually wireless charging as some claim. The USB cable puts the lie to that. But it is an oddly compelling use case to have a tiny panda face to drop my phone or airpods onto where they will quietly fill their batteries.

I dont know why it's so much more satisfying than the lightning plug I have on the other side of the desk. But it is.

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Dave W reckons...

Posted January 7
I got an ikea one. Damn thing doesn't work- which might be due to being my eco-system being robot-based. But I did like the idea if being able to charge the device at the same time as having headphones in the jack, being that there isn't a separate headphone jack.

*sigh*

Why isn't there a solution to _every_single_one_ of my first-world problems?

John Birmingham would have you know...

Posted January 7
I was a bit surprised when mine did work, to be honest. I'm not sure why I like it so much - besides the panda face. I think it's the way it allows me to charge without having to think about it or take conscious action. I just set the phone down and it charges. Whereas even taking a moment to plug in the lightning cord seems a grotesque imposition on my very valuable time.

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insomniac has opinions thus...

Posted January 7
As I am an iPhone 7 user http://s0.limitedrun.com/images/1279417/Sad_Panda.png

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she_jedi has opinions thus...

Posted January 8
I lashed out on AirPods a couple of weeks ago because of the inability to charge my effing phone and plug my headphones in at the same time without a stupid arse dongle. Thanks Tim Cook! And bugger me if they are not simply the best headphones i’ve ever had. I bought a pair of Bose wireless sporty headphones a while ago which were quite good, but the AirPods leave them for dead. I find myself super impressed and weirdly annoyed by this all at the same time, but you will have to lever my AirPods from my cold dead hands now. Sigh.

John Birmingham asserts...

Posted January 8
*Whispers*

"AirPods Pro are better."

she_jedi ducks in to say...

Posted January 9
Oh stop it lol

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Barnesm would have you know...

Posted January 10
I, on the other hand, would be disappointed to discover that the device didn't indeed charge pandas.

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What is to be done?

Posted January 6 by John Birmingham

It’s a bit hard to keep smiling isn’t it? I know I promised to keep it light around here, and I intend to stick to that promise, but everything is so dark at the moment it’s not easy. Ash and smoke has literally blotted out the sun in so many places. In others it has turned the world deep, blood red - the sort of thing Cormac McCarthy might have imagined for one of his post 911 apocalypse metaphors.

It is easy to despair. Easier still to anger.

My patience with climate change denial is at an end. It now simply enrages me. Even sitting in my pleasant cafe as I do on a Monday morning, I feel my brain heating with fury as I typed the words ‘climate change denial.’

And yet I have friends who are skeptics at best, if not actual deniers at worst. I’d Iike to maintain those friendships. I don’t know if it will be possible in the long term, but I suspect the only way might be through changing myself first.

Everything I’ve learned about human psychology tells me people will not change beliefs that are critical to their self image until their actual existence is threatened AND EVEN THEN they will fight to hold onto as much as they can.

Eventually, I suppose, I’ll have to decide whether I can have people like that in my life, but if I expect them to change I should first look at myself.

What could I be doing differently?

One thing, surprising to me when I realised it, was this. I am almost as ignorant of the science of climate change as any casual, lazy denier. I haven’t read the reports I’ve cited in columns. I don’t keep up to date with the latest findings. I scan the headlines, get angry, send a tweet.

So as a start I can at least educate myself. I can read the reports, or more likely the executive summaries because, lets face it, there have been millions of pages of reports and papers and findings published now.

That would be a start and it would make it easier to talk with people who—in good faith—can't bring themselves to accept the science of climate change for whatever reason. I would at least have something other than my anger to offer them.

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insomniac reckons...

Posted January 6
Knowing the science will just make you more angry with the deniers. You will see so much more clearly how wrong they are.
I'm in a space where I can't be bothered arguing the points any more. It's impossible, and will remain impossible as long as Rupes is around, although as I've seen you mention, the more evil Darth Lachlan will follow. Having DT, SM and BJ in power can't be good either.
So we're talking forever in terms of argument and logic. These fires might be the thing that gets people moving, especially when they start happening every year. A bit of fire up the arse. The heat too. Records being broken, not just year on year, but day on day. And water...maybe not wars but certainly battles.
ms insomniac and I have four small grandchildren. The oldest is four. What world are they inheriting? The one for our children will be bad enough.

I need more vegemite.

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tqft would have you know...

Posted January 6
Starter pack: The Garnaut Review 2008, which has been widely cited the last few days

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/227389894_The_Garnaut_Climate_Change_Review

Someone might have a better link


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andrew is gonna tell you...

Posted January 6
Point them at xkcd 1732 "Earth Temperature Timeline". It's both entertaining and (IMO) convincing to those who argue that "climate has changed in the past".

What burns me most is those (like our Prime Minimal) who claim to acknowledge the science and the facts, but that "we can't solve it" because "we are only 1.5% of the world". As if that argument to pure greed and entitlement can be convincing. I prefer the Asimov quote I found when reading about his recent 100th birthday:

"There's no way I can single-handedly save the world or, perhaps, even make a perceptible difference -- but how ashamed I would be to let a day pass without making one more effort."

jl is gonna tell you...

Posted January 6
Yes, climate has changed in the past. In a few cases with utter disaster. Google the K-T extinction, and the lesser known but deadlier P-T extinction. Frightening to read about.

John Birmingham mutters...

Posted January 6
That was a good link. Thx.

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jl ducks in to say...

Posted January 6
Here in the heart of the historical US coal country, I completely understand what you are saying. Try looking at the problem from another perspective; not at what may happen in the future, but what has happened (with overwhelming evidence) in the past. Simply Google "Geologic Climate Change" and read from any number of perfectly reputable university based, user-friendly websites. People who may get testy about future-based computer models will usually accept the evidence of past ice ages and warming periods without qualm. Go from there- it is but a short intuitive jump to compare current CO2 emissions, etc., with volcanic eruptions and weather fluctuations in the past. To borrow from Battlestar Galactica; "This has happened before. It will happen again."

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jl mutters...

Posted January 6
Yeah, reading about past climate change events can really curl the toes. Go here and check it out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permian–Triassic_extinction_event A real gem from that article? This sentence: "Studies in Bear Lake County, near Paris, Idaho, showed a relatively quick rebound in a localized marine ecosystem, taking around 2 million years to recover." Relatively quick rebound? Good God, a mere two million years.

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jason has opinions thus...

Posted January 6
I work in this sphere and my standard response to climate deniers is "it's like cancer, ignore it and you die, treat it now and it might get better". When it comes to cancer we trust the science and the people who have been studying this for years, there's no difference.

John Birmingham mutters...

Posted January 6
I think I'll be using this one from now on.

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Barnesm is gonna tell you...

Posted January 6
I admit to despair as I look around. On social media I found a post "Things aren't getting worse, more things are getting uncovered ...." which helped. But when the dispair threatens to overwhelm I find some genre speeches help - If I might paraphrase Lord of the Rings "I see in your eyes the same fear that would take the heart of me! A day may come, when the courage of men fails, when we forsake our friends and break all bonds of Fellowship, but it is not this day! An hour of wolves and shattered shields when the age of men comes crashing down! But it is not this day! This day we fight! By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you, stand, men of the West!"

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Murphy_of_Missouri ducks in to say...

Posted January 7
Well, I've read a fair bit.

I keep getting told something along the lines of, "We've got ten years."

Or, "The next ice age . . . "

Or, "We'll all be starving by . . . "

And this was back when I was a kid in the 1970s.

Seems to me that the problem is akin to slavery in America prior to 1865. They needed the slaves to run their economy, we need petro chemicals to run ours. We have alternatives, nuclear being the most effective at solving energy generation, desalinization (we have a water problem), and getting more electric vehicles on the roads. But then say, "nukes," and people freak out worse than the current problem.

As for wind and solar, up in DeKalb County, which served as the setting for Milo County in my own Tearing Down Tuesday stories, people are at each other's throats over wind turbines. Having visited the region a couple of years back . . .

The reality of the massive monstrosities, which have their own problems, I can see why people hate them.

So, I don't know, man. Seems to me, we're doomed to burn, because not only can no one agree on what the problem is, no one can agree on solutions, or if a solution is even needed.

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Posted January 8
That's very defeatist Murph. It's not that people can't agree on solutions. People can't agree on anything. That's just human nature.

Sometimes that aspect of human nature leads to enjoyably unimportant distractions like "Who's the better starship captain; Kirk or Picard".

And sometimes that aspect of human nature imperils human civilisation. Like now.

There exists huge economic incentives to encourage conflict over contending solutions. A trillion dollar fossil fuel industry isn't going to pull its own plug.

But there also exists huge incentives to solve the problem. I read the other day that the first trillionaire will be the guy the who solves the energy problem.

It seems a legit prediction to me. Although I would not be surprised to see the big fossil fuel companies re-engineer themselves as renewables businesses. They've known what was coming since the early 1970s and they are some of the biggest investors in renewables research and development.

As for climate change denial, that's just entrenched interests and Russian bots. Yes, we have Russian bots here now too.

Murphy_of_Missouri is gonna tell you...

Posted January 8
Realist, not defeatist.

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Murphy_of_Missouri ducks in to say...

Posted January 7
And frankly, I'm far more interested in things I can actually fix.

Like keeping kids from drowning in pools. Small goals.

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Dave W asserts...

Posted January 8
My issue with the argument that wind turbines are monstrosities or are terrible is that coal mines, trucks or trains carrying the stuff and the power stations are not exactly photogenic or without health issues themselves.

jason would have you know...

Posted January 8
I may have a biased view but i see wind turbines as being a piece of art on the landscape. The slowly turning blades are hypnotic, the design sleek and beautiful. The only thing about coal mines is we tend to hide them away. Compare the two on an equal basis and there is no contest.

jl puts forth...

Posted January 8
The aesthetics are the least of the problem (even though very old coal mines can make good swimming holes, albeit dangerous). The real problem is the poisoning of the aquifer through Acid Mine Drainage. A little chemistry; H2O+Pyrite(FeS)=FeO+H2SO4. Translated? Add water to fool's gold (which occurs in coal veins) and it produces rust and sulfuric acid. The rust blocks out sunlight in the water, and the sulfuric acid lowers the ph of the water. This creates dead, unusable bodies of water.

insomniac ducks in to say...

Posted January 8
Seeing an array of wind turbines from the air off the coast of England is infinitely more beautiful than the ugly scars you see flying over the Hunter or similar mining regions.

Murphy_of_Missouri reckons...

Posted January 8
About half the residents of DeKalb County, Missouri have a decidedly different attitude about wind turbines. Namely, they hate them.

Never mind that the revenue taxes from the company that runs them renovated Maysville Public Schools for the first time since the 1960s.

she_jedi puts forth...

Posted January 8
I was in Jordan in 2018 and we visited the ruins of a crusader castle. On the hill next door was a wind farm. The contrast was startling but beautiful.

Dave W would have you know...

Posted January 8
Yes, but why do they hate them, Murph?

Is it because power generation is happening in their backyard, rather than somebody else's? Because it has to happen in someone's backyard.

Dick swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted January 8
Hi Dave.

My sister and brother-in-law have a large wind farm next door to their farm. The nearest turbine to their house is only about 200 metres away. Their concern is the sub-sonic noise. They ended up buying another house in town (about 40 km from their farm) just so they could sleep properly a couple of nights a week. I think there probably just needs to be more science on this, and a minimum distance prescribed between turbines and homes.

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Posted January 9
Hi Dick,

I apologise- below (and I missed the respond button in my haste) I explain that I wished to retract the comment.

David

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Posted January 9
Apology not necessary. Just pointing out my experience. I personally don't have an issue with them, but I don't have to live next to one.

Murphy_of_Missouri swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted January 9
Dick covered it.

I drove up to DeKalb County back in 2017 for the first time in a long time.

The science fiction writer in me was a bit awestruck to see something I had written about in my stories manifest in my lifetime.

The boy in me who spent his summers up there? The things are creepy as fuck.

I don't hate them myself, but like Dick, I don't have to live by them.

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Posted January 8
I'd like to retract this, it is mean spirited and unnecessary of me.

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Posted January 30
Bill gates is trying to build carbon engineering plants and plans to be carbon negative by 2030 meaning it will have eliminated the entire carbon they have used since their inception (which is really damn impressive tbh).

it's a drop in the water given that other companies don't necesseraly do the same, but it helps me see that sometimes, even some people who could massively profit by letting things go as they have, try to do the right things and come up with really cool ideas.

https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/105982367-1561156199572carbonengineeringthumbnail.jpg?v=1579697112&w=1910

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