Cheeseburger Gothic

"Mrs. Peel, we’re needed,"

Posted June 26, 2015 into Telly by John Birmingham

iO9 has a nice tribute to Patrick Macnee who passed away this week:

In general, John Steed always seemed as though he was ready for anything. Armies of “Cybernauts” (deadly robot soldiers)? Why not. Shrinking rays? Sure. Deadly telepathic mind probes? But of course. The science fiction ideas in The Avengers were frequently far out, but—in a format later copied by Jon Pertwee’s Doctor Who—they were always located in present-day England, and connected to the familiar elements of the modern world.

John Steed’s swashbuckling attitude in the face of an endless succession of scientific abominations seemed to suggest that it would all be okay. And his approaches to rapid technological change and shifting gender roles seemed to be of a piece: Either sort of change will be fine, he seems to suggest, as long as you keep your bowler hat firmly in place. (And your umbrella, with its cunningly concealed sword inside.)

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Sparty would have you know...

Posted June 26, 2015
I doff my hat to him.
I have a lot of love for the Avengers, the sci fi and fantasy episodes outdoing Fringe, X-Files, Who etc, and with a unique era defining style.
Was very sad for him when Mrs Peels husband came back...

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Paul_Nicholas_Boylan swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted June 27, 2015
Macnee's professional courage in bringing John Steed, the first openly gay action hero, to life will always be remembered.

Halwes mumbles...

Posted June 28, 2015

I've been off this site while I finished the last book. Screw that ending though. The avengers was my favourite series of all time. Diana Rigg the best offsider. There is no way known that Steed was gay. The relationship with the women was always a simmering sexual one.

Halwes has opinions thus...

Posted June 30, 2015

I thought you might be but I couldn't let it go unchallenged!

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Halwes ducks in to say...

Posted June 28, 2015

On another matter, there were plenty in here crowing about the predicted demise of Abbot. The Libs seem to be looking better placed to win the next two elections every day to me. They have really positioned themselves well by scaring the hell out of the great unwashed with terrorism and attacking Shorten with the royal commission. There is very little real talent in both parties but Labor seem to be the dumbest at the moment. Never underestimate how stupid and greedy Australians are is my rule.

insomniac ducks in to say...

Posted June 28, 2015
I'm expecting an election in September. If Tony wins I'm off back to NZ.

insomniac is gonna tell you...

Posted June 28, 2015
I should add that it may be a deportation.

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NBlob puts forth...

Posted June 29, 2015
Off topic. Can Daesh form a functioning state? Or functioning enough? Is the Caliphate doomed to Balkanisation, fractionalisation with competing leaders, each with the one true faith and grad rockets. Or will Wahabism 2.0 provide sufficient cohesion around which to accrete a reasonable facsimile of a functioning state. For fear of relativism, many occupants of those lands past experience of governance has featured calcified corruption, episodic despotism & some pretty average standards of civic service delivery. By no means am I suggesting that those people deserve less civil rights, freedom blah blah blah, but they wouldn't be the first to trade such niceties for a few less bombs.

insomniac mutters...

Posted June 30, 2015
How about let them form a state, give them an area in which to live, gather them all together, and then turn the place into glass. Problem solved.

NBlob ducks in to say...

Posted June 30, 2015
Not an idea without merit. But let's for a moment play with: the next US pres ain't into overseas adventures, the Euros are busy with their own i$$u€$ and no one else has appetite or capacity to unload industrial butt-hurt on the Caliphate.What do we see in 2020?

insomniac swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted June 30, 2015
Sounds like an argument for keeping Tony on for a few more years. He has the appetite but thankfully not the capacity.

Halwes would have you know...

Posted June 30, 2015
I'd reckon we should arm the Kurds to the teeth
but talk like that would get me locked up in todays Australia. Anyway plenty of people know more about the subject than I. I don't know if we've had discussion in here about the aussie arab on Q&A but I was kind of proud where we had a country that could let any idiot say what they like. I think it may be more dangerous for us not to know what people are saying and how people are thinking. He seems to have been taken way out of context anyway, perhaps for a good headline? I haven't been subjected to the talk back storm that I'm sure many people have endured but even my cursory examination of the bloke kind of makes me think he's just another angry attention seeker who probably gets stoned and reads his own press.

NBlob mumbles...

Posted July 1, 2015
Defence Signals Directorate just got another good reason to monitor the Gothic.

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Game of Thrones Season finale. [SPOILERS]

Posted June 16, 2015 into Telly by John Birmingham

Poor, poor Girlclumsy.

We all knew this moment was coming. Well, those of us who bothered to read the damn books did. The last two eps this year did manage to pull a few surprise names out of the culling hat - characters who didn't buy it in the print version of A Dance With Dragons. But they were no big deal.

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I don't recall Stannis looking all that chipper by the end of the book. And I do wonder what will become of Ser Davos on the telly now that everyone in his whole story arc appears to be dead. Maybe he'll join the Watch?

Theon and Princess Grumpyface? I dont see how they can survive that drop from the walls of Winterfell unless it's into a very deep snow bank. Did you see a snow bank? I didn't see a snowbank. Just the same hard, frozen rocky ground that Junior Bolton's girlfriend assploded on at high speed a few moments earlier.

But of course the Westeros Celebrity Death all of the internet is losing its shit over (except for those of us who read the fucking books) was poor, poor Girlclumsy's Jon Snow. I predicted, to myself but it still counts, that she would begin her final recap this year with a heartfelt cry of, "Noooooo..."

And so she did.

In spite of one critic at The New York Times complaining that they saw no point in further emotional investment in this series (they say this every year) and blaming the TV producers for Snow's untimely demise, he went out on screen exactly the same way he went out on the page, and for the same reasons.

Of course, Melisandre has just turned up at the Wall, and she could turn him into a Snow Zombie next year. (See what I did there?) Even the books seemed just the tiniest bit vague on whether JS was actually dead after being running through with more steel than a Chinese railway building program. And there is Zombie Clegane back in King's Landing to ponder.

So perhaps poor, poor Girlclumsy will get lucky and Jon Snow will return as a purple veined shambler with orange-green eyes.

For those us reading the series before it, however, this episode is a crucial junction. From now on in, assuming Martin doesn't deliver a published hardback in the next 12 months, the TV arc and the book plots are untethered. Our smugness is over.

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jennicki puts forth...

Posted June 16, 2015
Who cares if winter is coming when it no longer bring the sexy Jon Snow?
*sobs quietly in corner*

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Boscolamb reckons...

Posted June 16, 2015
Is any author more cruel to his literary characters than Martin? Sucks to have the last name Stark or be popular with your fans. Birmo is down-right cuddly to his characters by comparison. Everyone was so upset when you slew Dan Black (off screen at that). You have nothing on George RR Martin!

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Miss Maudy puts forth...

Posted June 16, 2015
I was pretty sure at the end of the book that Jon Snow wasn't quite as dead as he seemed - mainly because all the other deaths of main characters occurred from the POV of the watcher - yet his death was through his eyes.

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coriolisdave asserts...

Posted June 16, 2015
Remember - we didn't SEE Stannis bite it. Any death that doesn't occur onscreen is no death at all.

I've also heard a rumour that the show might do a pivot on a theme and go with a LORD stoneheart...

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Murphy is gonna tell you...

Posted June 16, 2015
I always thought Snow looked like a dust mop.

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Rob puts forth...

Posted June 16, 2015

I just get it all wrong. I felt sorry for Cersie, my son was saying 'why? shes a total evil bitch'. Maybe it was because she was being admonished by religious zealots. Maybe because she's played by Lena Hadley? Maybe I really liked her hair? Maybe I don't follow the series properly. The sick dragon was tops though.

Rob swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted June 16, 2015

and did anyone notice Lena Hadleys wonky head composited onto another body? That head was a step to the right and wobbled all over the place like a bad photoshoped meme.

John Birmingham swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted June 16, 2015
No. I was too busy looking elsewhere.

Bondiboy66 has opinions thus...

Posted June 19, 2015
Funny, I said the exact same thing elsewhere on the interwebz!

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Buboe has opinions thus...

Posted June 16, 2015

My Money is on a Melisandre-driven reincarnation a-la Thoros of Myr.
Biggest surprise for me was Myrcella getting poisoned.

Maybe Bronn has antidote from his girlfriend

Bondiboy66 asserts...

Posted June 16, 2015
Yep I'm totally going with that. Anyway, Jon was still sort of breathing and leaking when the credits rolled which, combined with the book information, says to me it a pythonesque 'I'm not dead yet! I'm getting better!'

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Therbs would have you know...

Posted June 16, 2015
Ah, now I get the GoT reference in a pub trivia team name last week: "Jon Snow Dies". I thought it was a reference to John Snow the fast bowler for England.

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Lobes reckons...

Posted June 16, 2015
Going through the deaths. More than a few of them are quite ambiguous

Selyse: Certainly dead
Stannis: No on screen killing blow
Sansa + Theon: No landing shown
Myranda: Dead doornail
Meryn Trant: Very dead
Myrcella: No on screen death confirmation
Jon Snow: No funeral (potential resurrection by Melisandre)


SZF mumbles...

Posted June 17, 2015
Surely Meryn Trant's demise needs to be described in Syrio-speak: "Veeerrrry dead."

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TheWah swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted June 16, 2015
Purple veined shambler? oo er you saucy devil

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Squid mutters...

Posted June 17, 2015
Georgy released a chapter from The Winds of Winter about Theon but I don't know how that works with the TV show (and Princess Grumpface).

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HAVOCK21 mutters...

Posted June 17, 2015
fkn snow was ....a bitch!.
well I guess we get to wait a weee bit.
whats next JB

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nhamilton@iinet.net.au has opinions thus...

Posted June 18, 2015
GoT is at its best when it reverts to buddy movie, two characters off on an adventure.

Barnesm is gonna tell you...

Posted June 21, 2015
Varys and Tryion stil the best for snarky comments

Lobes has opinions thus...

Posted June 22, 2015
Arya and Tywin was good but Arya and the Hound was prob the best

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Rhino mumbles...

Posted June 20, 2015
Speaking of spoilers ... OK, that wasn't the most graceful of segues ... Are you getting many submissions for the Dave anthology?

John Birmingham mutters...

Posted June 21, 2015
I have about a dozen so far. Some really pearls too.

John Birmingham would have you know...

Posted June 21, 2015
'Real' pearls. Stupid fingers.

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David S. reckons...

Posted June 20, 2015
Martin not deliver the next volume within 12 months? Sure, like that'd ever happen! I mean, he's famously fast with the writing of this series, by this time next year we'll probably have vols. 6 & 7 on our (virtual in my case) bookshelves.
And they said I couldn't write fantasy...

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Sweet Jane Says ducks in to say...

Posted June 25, 2015
HBO changed the fates and ending to the very popular series of books, _True Blood_. If they changed the series of "True Blood," they can change the fates and endings in "Game of Thrones."

The bottom line for HBO is money and ratings. Last year's season was a bit dull, and HBO officially announced this season that they would be diverging from the books. Remember, books and visual media are universes unto themselves.

J.

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan puts forth...

Posted June 25, 2015
"The bottom line for HBO is money and ratings."

So?

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Sweet Jane Says is gonna tell you...

Posted June 25, 2015
It's obvious Martin fears for his own mortality and his mind is a bit continuity challenged.

J.

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Netflix ahoy

Posted March 24, 2015 into Telly by John Birmingham

I had my usual run at Blunty this morning, but didn't link to it here because it was just more bitching about climate change destroying my appliances.

When I opened my email this morning, however, there was an exciting message from Netflix, that their local operation was now underway. I did something I don't often do. Went home and wrote a whole new column, for free, just because I wanted to have my two cents worth:

It's on, at last. As of midnight last night you could get Netflix in Australia. A cramped, constrained version of the much larger, more generous US Netflix to be sure, but the journey of a thousand miles begins right after I binge-watch Firefly and House of Cards, oh, and Breaking Bad over on Stan, and all the many, many eps of Dr Who I missed and Torchwood and maybe John Dies at the End.

More here.

If you're wondering why this sudden burst of blogging, it's because I'm having a 'day off' after sending away the first HOOPER ebook manuscript. 32K words on Colonel Varatchevsky's origin story, with a little easter egg for readers of the Disappearance series.

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HAVOCK21 ducks in to say...

Posted March 24, 2015
yeah well! I finished both fkn books, day and a bit..............FINALLY!

You have no fkn concept how hard it is to NOT FKN COMMENT / READ SHIT when ya aint read the fkn book. BUT NOW I HAVE..both. So how would one, thats a sure fkn fired GOD like me, with NUTs LIKE FKN COCONUTS, nit hanging on the ground and WOMEN ATTRANATDS that are to the power of fkn TEN OF DAVE!.

Good read, fkn good read actually. I think I liked book one more, thats because your ability to describe the TOTAL FKN CARNAGE OF THE KIL BOX! was fkn piss poor and you outta slap Murph over the fkn head , unless he can produce fkn proof he disagreed, that the action was NOWHERE fkn near enough descrptive, I wanted desriptions of MBT,s squashing the fkr, fleshette fkn rounds tangled with SLIVEEN TESTICLES and innards impaled on building fkn walls, tank tracks lubricated withe ec etc and I got five fifths of fk all!

Number three.................it better be better, thats NOT to say 2 wasn't god, but get ya explodie fkn shit together, I want more carnage!

John Birmingham reckons...

Posted March 24, 2015
Note to Murph: Must remember the fleshy testicle thing next time. For Havoc.

Murphy reckons...

Posted March 25, 2015
Fleshy nuts.
Got it.

Murphy has opinions thus...

Posted March 25, 2015
Wait a minute . . . are there any other kind?
I mean, I figure Sliveen probably have scaly nuts, maybe spiked nuts, or perhaps scabby, hairy, pustule ridden nuts.
Just sayin'.
#DiversifyYourNuts

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Rob reckons...

Posted March 24, 2015

can't watch it. My internet is like my pugs. Slow. So I have been forced to torrent, its my ISPs fault, honest.

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Darth Greybeard puts forth...

Posted March 24, 2015
I'm going for the free trial, just to see if it streams without constant breaks (thanks Rupert, thanks Malcolm). If so, I'm in.

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she_jedi swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted March 24, 2015
FFS my Fairfax site WAtoday didn't even run your climate change column. Wasn't until you mentioned it on the Twitterz that I knew it existed. Finally tracked it down on BrisbaneTimes. Shame WAToday shame. I had two Bluntys for the price of one and was denied!

HAVOCK21 mutters...

Posted March 25, 2015
She J, you should sooooo have seen me when I dressed up as PUSS....IN BOOOTZZ!. FK I made it bad!

she_jedi mutters...

Posted March 25, 2015
I want photos Havock! Surely some brave soul captured this for posterity?

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan asserts...

Posted March 28, 2015
I, for one, do not want to see any photographic depiction of the event.

she_jedi mutters...

Posted March 28, 2015
Wuss

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Murphy reckons...

Posted March 25, 2015
I'm sorry, what is the big deal about Torchwood?
Just wondering.

beeso ducks in to say...

Posted March 25, 2015
Depends which one. The original spinoff was a good edgy sci fi cop drama. Then they took it to the U.S. and absolutely fucked it.

Darth Greybeard asserts...

Posted March 25, 2015
Agreed.

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HAVOCK21 has opinions thus...

Posted March 25, 2015
Murph, hear hear. And we should also add to that the other shite he mentioned in that list. Im fkn surprised JB watches sooo much shit really. Its a wonder, that between that crap, sunlight ( queenslanders are renowned for too much sunlight on their brains) and being a dainty writer, that he delivers anyform of explodie fkn goodness, Ill wager the hover has a fkn pink fluffy fkn captains seat at this rate.

AND!

WHO THE FK IS!!!! TORCHWOOD??? FFSAKES!. I heard of Dr WHO.

FormerlyKnownAsSimon reckons...

Posted March 27, 2015
Torchwood is actually an anagram of Doctor Who. It was a good spinoff. Hadn't even heard of the US translation. Not surprised it bombed - why do they even bother? So many examples of failure in that regard. It's not like the US citizens are complete buffoons and can't watch something with an english accent. . . . . .. . no?

Murphy asserts...

Posted March 27, 2015
Simon, it made it here.
It was notable for two men kissing each other.

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GhostSwirv mumbles...

Posted March 25, 2015

Dear HAVOCK21 the blogosphere has been bereft of your commanding grip of fearsome pinions of late - one wonders if you shall venture beyond the shores of present time and space and Torchwoodiness an' stuff and all and launch MASS ASSAULTS on the bitchin' TheDave fan fictions?


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Aaron mumbles...

Posted March 26, 2015
Man it sounds like you could have a kill box fan fic festival.
Another note, my wife got me call of duty ghosts for bday, the enemy is the federation, the combined might of South America in about 20 years. Sounds like what was brewin in the last disappearance novel. I am working the kill box

John Birmingham swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted March 27, 2015
My lawyers will be in contact.

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JG has opinions thus...

Posted March 27, 2015
Had to post this link to Fairfax article re Netflix and Australian piracy by Adam Turner. Why? Because the photo of the man with the Red Right Hand (good song) to his cheek in the article looks uncannily like you, JB, except with black hair, if that's what it is. Anyone else think that, or am I going blind?
http://m.brisbanetimes.com.au/digital-life/computers/gadgets-on-the-go/netflix-wont-slake-the-thirst-of-aussie-pirates-20150326-1m8xpj.html

Joanna

GhostSwirv asserts...

Posted March 27, 2015

Oh God no - JB as FU ... President of the Free World, heaven help us!!!

JG asserts...

Posted March 27, 2015
Who is this FU of which you speak, GS?

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GhostSwirv asserts...

Posted March 27, 2015

JG - if I'm not mistaken, and in this reality that is a distinct possibility, FU is Frank Underwood - ably channeled by the talents of one KS - Kevin Spacey, who incidently also played ... OMG I just realised KS is Keyser Soze!!!

Did like the Red Right Hand reference - can't seem to shake it from my head now - not a bad way to start the school holidays - makes me want to reach for a bit of the Irish, Jack that is, oops wrong Writer's Temple.

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pi is gonna tell you...

Posted March 29, 2015
OT, but last night it occurred to me that some here might or might be familiar with the first Super Dave? Super Dave Osborne that is. I grew up in Canada, and this guy had a show on about his stunts, and he was funny at the time.

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=youtube.com+super+dave+osborne&qpvt=youtube.com+super+dave+osborne&FORM=VDRE

It didn't occur to me that some here might not have known about it? Anyway, funny if you're into that sort of thing.

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Drew-mo swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted March 31, 2015

Firefly, Torchwood, Doctor who...
...excuse me while I fanboy for a few moments........Better now.




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Live long and prosper

Posted February 28, 2015 into Telly by John Birmingham

Very sad and even a little teary this morning to learn that Leonard Nimoy has passed away. May choirs of angels speed him to his rest at warp factor 9.

"I don't think he's coming back."

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jay puts forth...

Posted February 28, 2015
Yeah pretty bummed this morning too.

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Bunyip puts forth...

Posted February 28, 2015
Ditto.
Some amazing tributes online but. The mosaic of fans giving the Vulcan salute...[stumbles off in direction of box of tissues]

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Abe Frellman ducks in to say...

Posted February 28, 2015
Vale Mr Spock.
Lately I've been looking forward to reading about the latest Abs-gaffe in the online news each morning, so I was deeply saddened to come across this news this morning. It's like a part of my childhood died with him. :-(

Darth Greybeard has opinions thus...

Posted February 28, 2015
Exactly. Several teary eyed people here too. Pretty good in Fringe as well more recently and he gave the new Abrams Star Trek movies a real boost. A role model.

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w from brisbane puts forth...

Posted February 28, 2015
Sad news. <div style="color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.701961); font-family: UICTFontTextStyleBody; font-size: 19px; line-height: normal; -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(130, 98, 83, 0.0980392); text-decoration: -webkit-letterpress;">Nimoy said, "Spock is definitely one of my best friends. When I put on those ears, it's not like just another day. When I become Spock, that day becomes something special." <div style="color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.701961); font-family: UICTFontTextStyleBody; font-size: 19px; line-height: normal; -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(130, 98, 83, 0.0980392); text-decoration: -webkit-letterpress;">The day became special for a lot of us. The character he created is as iconic as Bugs Bunny and Captain Ahab. <div style="color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.701961); font-family: UICTFontTextStyleBody; font-size: 19px; line-height: normal; -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(130, 98, 83, 0.0980392); text-decoration: -webkit-letterpress;">It was an added treat that the actor seemed such a nice, humourous, thoughtful bloke.

w from brisbane is gonna tell you...

Posted February 28, 2015
Oh dear. I blame the Klingons. I wrote that on the Notepad on Ipad.

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Murphy_of_Missouri would have you know...

Posted February 28, 2015
To quote Savvik from TWOK, "Damn."
Rest easy, Mr. Nimoy. You were a first class role model.
Rest easy.
Respects,
Murph
On the Outer Marches

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SZF asserts...

Posted February 28, 2015
It's strange, a few years ago I saw him on screen and thought, "He's looking pretty old." So I was prepared for the worst back then.
But he stuck around and somewhere along the way I simply assumed he'd gone ahead and achieved Immortality Level 1.
Being wrong sucks. Vale Mr Nimoy.

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Bangar would have you know...

Posted February 28, 2015
Truely sad to hear the news.

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MickH has opinions thus...

Posted February 28, 2015
Dif tor heh smusma

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NBlob is gonna tell you...

Posted February 28, 2015
Nimoy was able to project extreme rationalism without being excessively supercilious.I wasn't a huge Trek fan, his work on docos was more influential for me.

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tqft puts forth...

Posted February 28, 2015
Woke up to this news. Crap start to day.

Ending day with more bad news.

But Nimoy/Spock an inspiration

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Sparty reckons...

Posted February 28, 2015
As Bones once said "you know Jim, he's not really gone providing we remember him".
and to cheer people uphttp://youtu.be/Bnd_vgKttx0

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GhostSwirv swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted March 1, 2015


It's hard to believe Leonard Nimoy's gone, it's just like when Alec Guiness passed away - a part of my adolescence has gone with them as well.

A lot of fans were posting Spock's Death Scene from 'Wrath of Khan' yesterday but for me the tears began the moment Spock realised the Enterprise was in danger and he then stepped into the chamber to save the ship and everyone aboard.

That's great writing, acting and directing - if you can watch the whole sequence from the moment Khan begins the Genesis detonation countdown to the point where Kirk realises Spock is not at his Science Station, at the Captain's side on the bridge, then watch the scene in the Engine Room - it puts Nimoy's acting and Spock's death in greater perspective.

GhostSwirv

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Stan goes to Gallipoli

Posted February 17, 2015 into Telly by John Birmingham

I signed up for Stan, the new Netflix-like (or maybe Netflix-lite) streaming service as soon as it became available. I'll sign up for Netflix too when it arrives. Even at a combined total of twenty bucks a month, that's a fraction of my Foxtel bill. I'm just waiting for Jane to work through a series she's watching there, and then I'll definitely cut the cable on Murdoch. I don't know that I'll bother with their streaming service, Presto. It's twenty-five a month and if it's anything like their standard service, it'll be crap.

There's plenty of crap on Stan and Netflix, of course. A lot of shows I'll never bother to watch. But given the slow rate at which I get through series, a tenner a month is very good value for me. I'm currently watching Breaking Bad, which I've always meant to catch up on. And Gallipoli.

Gallipoli has been a surprise. I expected it to be awful. Like, Underbelly Squizzy Taylor awful. But apart from a few production issues (soldiers with no facial hair, rifles that sound like pop guns) it's been very good. I'm basing that on only two episodes watched, but Steve Molk seems to agree and I trust his judgment.

It's interesting that Stan has gone into first run production so quickly, but I suppose not surprising given the presence of the Nine Network in the joint venture and the examples provided by Netflix and Amazon in the US. There's more coming too, apparently.

Foxtel's chief poobah insists the streamers will eventually default to his model. Pay for access and suffer through advertsiing, but that might just as well be wishful thinking. I really hate adverts on Foxtel. I'm paying those clowns so much every month and they're still wasting my time with ads. It's partly what makes me reluctant to consider Presto as a streamer.

Anyway, I'm happy with both my subscription and the first local show I've invested time in, Gallipoli. It's worth checking out if you're so inclined.

Lobes would prefer I mention I'm employed by Fairfax at this point. They are the other joint venture principal with Nine. But I think we all know that.

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Paul_Nicholas_Boylan is gonna tell you...

Posted February 17, 2015
I didn't know about Gallipoli. But I binge-watched breaking bad on Netflix. Amazing television.

Note, but no spoiler - the Jesse Pinkman character was originally intended to be present in only a few early episodes.

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Lobes has opinions thus...

Posted February 17, 2015
*nods approvingly*

Speaking of Channel 9, JB did you get a chance to read Geoff Lemons excoriating take down of the Ch 9 cricket commentary team? Its gone viral thanks to its combination of piercing insight and the merciless skewering of fading legends. Anchorman Jamie Brayshaw and producer Brad McNamara get it particularly hard.

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2015/feb/13/channel-nine-destroying-cricket-legacy

Brayshaw is the forward marker of the new regime: an AFL commentator
who trades in hyperbole and volume and phrases like “big unit”, and
calls like a man who’s kept half an eye on cricket in pubs over the
years. There are the touchstones: teenage Tendulkar made a Waca Ground
hundred, Laxman and Dravid were rather good, Indian batsmen have wrists.
But no detail, no effort to learn. Wriddhiman Saha would never have
seen the Adelaide Oval, declared Brayshaw, when Saha’s grand total of
two career Tests included an Adelaide debut. The most cursory glance at
Cricinfo would have done the trick. “Gee, you’re unlucky,” was Slater’s
vacant-grinning response. Or later in the series, Brayshaw again: “If
you’re the Indian fast bowling coach – I don’t even know who that is, by
the way...”


There’s a deliberate idiocy at work here: not just not knowing, but
making a point of not knowing, and of telling us he doesn’t know.
Consciously or not, this is Brayshaw nudging his audience to say that he
doesn’t give a fig about this touring team, that none of us need to,
they’re a mere backdrop to Australian glory.




Peter Bradley ducks in to say...

Posted February 17, 2015
Thanks for the heads up Lobes. So sad it is true.

BigWillieStyle would have you know...

Posted February 18, 2015

@Lobes

I read the Lemon article last week after getting a heads-up on Twittle. Agreed with every word he typed. I immediately tweeted Brad McNamara, just to make sure he knew about the article and that it captured him perfectly. I got #Blockedbybrad as a result. He was a sledging, bullying tryhard as a player, and has evidently morphed into a sneering, sycophantic fanboy as a producer.

BigWillieStyle would have you know...

Posted February 18, 2015

It'd be easier to hate on Brayshaw if he didn't have any cricket cred, but he does. Decade-long first-class career, and a highly respectable batting average in the mid-40s. He'd likely get in the Test team these days with that average.

Similar to Sam Newman and Paul Vautin, and their blokey, 1970s schtick on their respective Shows de Footy. Gruesome, superannuated buffoons, but unfortunately they've got footy cred to hang their hats on.

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Barnesm is gonna tell you...

Posted February 17, 2015

Storing Gallipolli up on the Foxtel box till the whole series released.

I agree the fact you have to pay for advertising on Foxtel seems to be a sick joke.

Initially interested becasue the posters used to promote Gallipolli with Kodi Smit-McPhee as Tolly Johnson had a more than passing resembles my son the_weapon. So much so that his mother is having some difficulties watching the series, particularly since she has seen the _weapon in his cadet uniform.

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coriolisdave has opinions thus...

Posted February 17, 2015
What's the go with series on Stan, JB? Do they only do full seasons, or do new eps go up as they're aired in the states?

(eg is Justified up-to-date, or still only up to season 5?)

John Birmingham swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted February 17, 2015
I'll check, but I can tell you that Gallipoli is all there, ready for a binge.

Spanner reckons...

Posted February 17, 2015
Whaaaaaat? All there and add free?
All I have to do is pay?
Take my money. Take it all. Take it now.

John Birmingham has opinions thus...

Posted February 17, 2015
Checked. Avail up to S5 only.

coriolisdave has opinions thus...

Posted February 18, 2015
Thanks!

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Spanner swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted February 17, 2015
I liked Gallipoli. There were a few minor irritations like the popgun sound made by the SMLE and the lack of recoil.
The thing that stuck out for me was some of the actors lack of familiarity with the action of the bolt on the SMLE. They made using one of the fastest and easiest actions look slow, difficult and clumsy.

Barnesm swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted February 17, 2015
is that becasue as the raw troops that would be how they handled the weapons or was this also supposedly experienced troops. Apologies as I have yet to watch the series.

John Birmingham reckons...

Posted February 17, 2015
I think it was just the actors.

Abe Frellman ducks in to say...

Posted February 17, 2015
My money is on the actors. The Lee-Enfield is famous for convincing enemies facing them that they were facing automatic weapons, such was the rate of fire a few riflemen could send down range. I saw a doco that did a side by side comparison with comparable rifles of the day, esp German ones. The big difference is that the SMLE rifleman could work the bolt without moving his eye from the sights, whereas with the German equivalent he would have to disengage after each round. Nobody seems to have told the makers of Gallipoli about that.

Defender90 swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted February 17, 2015
I agree. Haven't seen Gallipoli but British WW1 dramas get this stuff wrong so often - I guess they just take a bunch of out of work waiters, sorry thespians, get some uniforms out of stores and they're done.Also the point about facial hair is bang on, look at period film and photos and one sees that hair was worn oiled and slick accessorised with face fur. Looks like meeja types don't do research.

Jon swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted February 18, 2015
If any bold troop is trained on a bolt action rifle they can send a decent amount of lead, SMLE or Mauser down range, spose you could ask the turks or anzacs about that. I will have a poke at the gallipoli one though, cheers for the heads up.

Spanner has opinions thus...

Posted February 18, 2015
Barnes, if the troops were that green then they would have developed a big flinch when the straight stock of the SMLE smacked em in the cheekbone. The actors had no flinch but just couldn't work the action.

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Sparty puts forth...

Posted February 17, 2015
Well you're in for a treat with five seasons of Breaking Bad...Via Cable channels in the UK were starting to get more Australian drama here (rather than just the Kylie MInogue Origin Show) so tips on top Aussie drama to look out for appreciated. Saw lots of trailers for underbelly - pity it sounds dodgy.

John Birmingham would have you know...

Posted February 17, 2015
The first one was brilliant

insomniac would have you know...

Posted February 17, 2015
Not all Underbelly's were bad, or as bad as Squizzy. To be honest though, we never really watched them, except for Underbelly Badness, and that was because ms insomniac's daughter was in it.

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pi is gonna tell you...

Posted February 17, 2015
I loved the first two seasons of Breaking bad, but I found it got a bit slow around mid season 3. But when it came good, it was like... <insert major euphoric drug reference here>. From half-way through season 4 to completion, it was some of the best television ever made.

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buboe puts forth...

Posted February 18, 2015

Presto is $9.99 a month at the moment. Movies are better than Stan, but there's no TV. It's also got some technical issues. We were subscribed December and January, and probably spent about 10 days of that locked out of our account...


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BigWillieStyle mutters...

Posted February 18, 2015
I also signed up with Stan, for no other reason than to watch "Better Call Saul". Also intend to get me some Netflix action (they've got "Lillyhammer" and "Derek"). Apart from a one-month free trial in mid-2012 (and I only got it because of the 8 Olympic Games channels), I've never had Foxtel. Would rather shave a lion with a rusty razor then pay RuMu one fucking cent for his shitty TV wares.

w from brisbane ducks in to say...

Posted February 18, 2015
I rather like that alternate name for the News Corp chairman, Rupert Morloch.

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GhostSwirv swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted February 18, 2015


Am thinking about signing on to one of the new streaming services, do not currently subscribe economically, ethically or spiritually to Foxtel.

Have only an ADSL connection, distance from exchange is almost 5kms and is not particularly fast, no access to Cable or NBN in the foreseeable future, so I'm wondering if streaming content is gonna be worth it.

Does anyone have anything good to say about ISP and can recommend a plan or provider.

Thinking of buying one of Elon Musk's Tesla sedan's with the free satellite thrown, I wish, so any real-world advice would be welcome.

GhostSwirv over and out of bandwidth.

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NBlob puts forth...

Posted February 18, 2015


Sorry for the OT. A facebook, er <EM>contact</EM> is pimping the "Unions Bad" WWII book.You provided a link to an article that pretty effectively dismembered it. Now I cant find the entry wherein you posted the link. Can you help?

damian mumbles...

Posted February 18, 2015
“Colebatch is entitled to his own opinions, but not his own facts. Australia’s Secret War is a farrago.”

NBlob asserts...

Posted February 19, 2015

Thankyou sir. Was witlessly countered with

" Pfffft,"

&

"My Dad and his unit had to unload their own gear when they got back from Japan, wharfies refused to unload ship ,"

You know, I cant be arsed to argue. Some numpties are welcome to their own road to hell.


Lulu asserts...

Posted February 19, 2015
Nblob, some people cling to ignorance in the face of all evidence. To take a small example, of the many many online comments I have read this week about the Bali 2, a large number have been from people who thought they were arrested trying to smuggle drugs *into* Bali.

NBlob reckons...

Posted February 19, 2015
+1It used to anger, now it intrigues me.Thinker-tinkerers refer to The Dunnning Kruger effect, the attractiveness of exclusive revelations, anonymous disinhibition and other syndromes. I think there is just a surfeit of arsehats.Don't get me wrong I believe there are arsehats on both sides of the left/right progressive/conservative divide. In this particular instance, I look upon these clowns as under & misinformed. I used to believe that if I bought information of sufficient quantity & quality I could convince them of the Correct (ie my) position. I no longer feel that way. As an old saying has it "Don't try to teach a pig to sing, it wastes your time & annoys the pig."What still kinda bugs me is terms like "leftards."

Blake swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted February 21, 2015
I made the mistake of trying to make a rational argument about respecting competence of trained experts on complex issues on the abc facebook page... I was surprised at how much i was told that i needed to 'do my research' and 'get educated'... I suspect the irony was lost on them.
So many people dropped into the reply thread to shout random incorrect, wrong and assumed facts about the topic at me... i snarked for a while complimenting people on their rounded and well though out insults (idiot was popular), i got angry for a bit...so many crazies thought that hospital workers were all corrupt uncaring monsters.. How does such a belief perpetuate?All in all a very rounded experience in the culture of ignorance. I thought for a while it was because it may have appeared

Blake has opinions thus...

Posted February 21, 2015
...i may have appeared to diss the magic green herb (did you know it has no side effects? And can cure all ills?)...
But in the end i realised that these folks were never going to be happy, i could shout from the rooftops my support for their cause, i could break the shackles of our nanny state but if i dared to suggest that there might be evidence that contradicted their own opinions then i was a corrupted demon who should be burned at the stake.
It wasnt all bad, in the 75 or so posts i read before realising continuing reading and trolling would consume me some people were supportive...one person even nominated me for PM. Not that thats much of a vote of confidence at the moment

John Birmingham ducks in to say...

Posted February 21, 2015
We appreciate your effort anyway.

damian would have you know...

Posted February 22, 2015
"Don't get me wrong I believe there are arsehats on both sides of the left/right progressive/conservative divide."
<font color="#333333">In the 90s I would have agreed. I'm sure there are still some out there, maybe it's just the circles I move in but I find the leftish sort vanishingly rare these days, for values of "these days" that certainly include all of this millennium to date.</font><font color="#333333">
</font><font color="#333333">Of course there's a distinction between people who genuinely believe arsehatish things, hold genuinely arsehatish positions they will defend vigorously, and people who merely behave oafishly. </font><font color="#333333">
</font><font color="#333333">And there's always category issues related to the whole left/right thing not really making that much sense anymore. I always see anti-vaxers for instance as a right-wing thing, being all about induhvidual choice and how Big Government is bad. (That they also talk about Big Pharma suggests what they really don't like is Big things, and I know the Big Cow is gone, maybe we need to check on the Big Pineapple). I see a lot of the trendy, new-agey, ex-hippy stuff that manifests itself as small-businesses and books about individual empowerment as inheriently right-wing (California ueber alles and all that), but I'm aware some people find this counter intuitive.

I also have great problems with stuff like "leftard". I wonder what we (as in Australian culture) did right to avoid accruing the words "retarded" or "gay" as insults. I'm moderately enraged that countless teenagers internalised them through otherwise comical Cartman impression done without full understanding of the satirical layer. Some with, sure, but still. </font><font color="#333333">
</font><font color="#333333">One of the most beautiful women I knew in the 80s had CP and she told a story about once being trapped by skinheads in a phone box, who pissed on her while chanting "retard". Every single person using the term in this sense is lining up with those boys, intentionally or not.</font><font color="#333333">
</font><font color="#333333">Maybe it's a question of perspective and people who don't have enough? I'm not clear. I find myself avoiding entering the fray, mostly because it's tiring and there are far more important things to use one's energy for. But also there's the enraging stuff and the way just encountering some of these people cheapens you. The stupid, it burns.</font>

damian mumbles...

Posted February 22, 2015
Curious - this was all just typed straight in here, other than the small snippet from NBlob's comment which was copied and pasted but doesn't seem affected.

NBlob is gonna tell you...

Posted February 22, 2015

Yeah there is some interesting formatting things going down. I suspect the beasts in the Spam trap are getting hungry, so have sent their formatting gremlins up to tempt the less temperate into doing something rash.

On my iPhone & SWMBO's Fondle Slab, carriage returns don't "take."

On the desktop @ lunch {during my lunch break} they do.

damian would have you know...

Posted February 22, 2015
Well I've got the Madness button, so I might experiment a little till I get it right.

damian mumbles...

Posted February 22, 2015
"Don't get me wrong I believe there are arsehats on both sides of the left/right progressive/conservative divide."

In the 90s I would have agreed. I'm sure there are still some out there, maybe it's just the circles I move in but I find the leftish sort vanishingly rare these days, for values of "these days" that certainly include all of this millennium to date.

Of course there's a distinction between people who genuinely believe arsehatish things, hold genuinely arsehatish positions they will defend vigorously, and people who merely behave oafishly.

And there's always category issues related to the whole left/right thing not really making that much sense anymore. I always see anti-vaxers for instance as a right-wing thing, being all about induhvidual choice and how Big Government is bad. (That they also talk about Big Pharma suggests what they really don't like is Big things, and I know the Big Cow is gone, maybe we need to check on the Big Pineapple). I see a lot of the trendy, new-agey, ex-hippy stuff that manifests itself as small-businesses and books about individual empowerment as inheriently right-wing (California ueber alles and all that), but I'm aware some people find this counter intuitive.

I also have great problems with stuff like "leftard". I wonder what we (as in Australian culture) did right to avoid accruing the words "retarded" or "gay" as insults. I'm moderately enraged that countless teenagers internalised them through otherwise comical Cartman impression done without full understanding of the satirical layer. Some with, sure, but still.

One of the most beautiful women I knew in the 80s had CP and she told a story about once being trapped by skinheads in a phone box, who pissed on her while chanting "retard". Every single person using the term in this sense is lining up with those boys, intentionally or not.
Maybe it's a question of perspective and people who don't have enough? I'm not clear. I find myself avoiding entering the fray, mostly because it's tiring and there are far more important things to use one's energy for. But also there's the enraging stuff and the way just encountering some of these people cheapens you. The stupid, it burns.

damian mutters...

Posted February 22, 2015
Done FWIW

John Birmingham is gonna tell you...

Posted February 22, 2015
Interestingly, Damian, Jon Gruber and Merlin Mann were discussing the politics of the anti-vaxxer 'movement' on The Talk Show a week or so back. Gruber had done some research, i.e., read some other dude's research. There is no partisan divide. The anti-vcxx movement is split right down the middle of left and right. Equal representation from both sides.

damian mumbles...

Posted February 22, 2015
I'm not really surprised, and maybe you can see me as trying to balance the perception - most people seem to think for whatever reason it's a left thing.

I guess my point is there's no such thing as a left thing anymore.

damian mutters...

Posted February 22, 2015
Also: what's left/right? Suspect self-assessment or even more dubious method.

NBlob is gonna tell you...

Posted February 22, 2015
"The anti-vcxx movement is split right down the middle of left and right. Equal representation from both sides." Worst. Case. Scenario CrossingtheStrands of Stupid.

damian swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted February 22, 2015
Cf my point about new-age hippy stuff being (almost inherently) tory. Perception and traditional wisdom here being 180 degrees out of whack

NBlob is gonna tell you...

Posted February 22, 2015
Without honest Self Perception & a shared nomenclature we don't have discourse we have mad hooting & branch waving.

damian ducks in to say...

Posted February 22, 2015
No argument, though I've experience of notably tory folks claiming t obe "a bit left" for 20 years. Not sure if it counts as an attempt to drag the middle or just a kind of delusion. Not convinced if it is a delusion that it's rare.

damian has opinions thus...

Posted February 22, 2015
Anyway Birmo - the point is, you're basically repeating the point I was trying to make. Not just a left thing.

Blake has opinions thus...

Posted February 24, 2015
Re: Gay / Retard.Agree that it's probably not for the good thinking people to be reinforcing the lingo, but i think that saying "Every single person using the term in this sense is lining up with those boys, intentionally or not." is probably going a little far.(or maybe it will be).
<font color="#333333">We do this crazy thing where the English language is constantly in flux but we don't see it as an ocean of change but as a standing body of water.</font><font color="#333333">There is a moment in WoC that i came across yesterday where the '42's struggle with the description of a character as "gay" 'you mean she's happy?'</font><font color="#333333">
</font><font color="#333333">Today we're all happy to accept that 'gay' is a synonym of homosexual, and one that is acceptable to use in polite company when used appropriately. 'Fag' has moved to self-irony acceptance category (with 'nigga') but remains derogatory when cast. But given 20 years is that going to remain true? if our society keep reinforcing retard and gay as words of derision then all the lgbt community has to do is adopt a new acceptable name and its a matter of time till we forget what it was supposed to mean in the first place?</font><font color="#333333">
</font><font color="#333333">When i was growing up, 'spastic' was a word one kid might use to describe another kid who can't catch a ball, it wasn't till i was much older when an Adam Hills story made me realise it's earlier definition.</font><font color="#333333">
</font><font color="#333333">I just don't think words are worth making that much fuss about - why is the news of Benedict Cummerbatch accidentally dropping the term 'coloured people' more interesting than the point he was trying to make? </font><font color="#333333">
</font><font color="#333333">In other news...look there's to topic--> I signed up for the Stan trial to catch up on Sherlock...so far so good - i wonder if Au will get a better deal with GoT this time around?</font>

Blake mumbles...

Posted February 24, 2015
Cannot win with the formatting here - on the tablet trying to edit mistakes usually ends in the submit button being spuriously pressed mid-thought and hence am paranoid about getting the words out and punctuation doesn't get done
On the PC i need a word-limit to keep the ranting short and i'm being foiled by hypertext inserts.

John Birmingham ducks in to say...

Posted February 24, 2015
Yeah I'd be giving them a swerve.

damian mumbles...

Posted February 25, 2015
Blake, it's not about fretting over language or giving some nebulously defined idea of "offence", though talking about that is one of the ways people deal with it. It's actually really hard to communicate the empathy you need to understand this without examples and role play exercises. I'm crap at examples and always see my role more in analysis and strategy, in which case it just isn't my job to convince people to be better people. But I do think that people who want to be better people work on the empathy thing themselves. It's about putting yourself in the place of someone who has to live there.
Ann Coulter has said the Down's Syndrome guy who objected to her using "retard" to insult Obama was being "authoritarian". Presumably because she thinks her culture is so generous not putting him in a gas chamber.

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DarrenBloomfield ducks in to say...

Posted February 18, 2015
I'd do it too. But for sport. It's sport where foxtel have me by the nuts

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The Flash

Posted December 13, 2014 into Telly by John Birmingham

The ladies took themselves off to the ballet last night, leaving the lads at home to amuse themselves, which we did by catching up with the first eps of The Flash. I ran the trailer here a while and said I was looking forward to it. It turned out to be even better than I expected.

The cast is heavy with talent, especially in the older 'character' roles. The moral/personal dilemmas are pretty well thought out. The effects are oddly cheesy. But enjoyable in a 1980s kinda way.

The amp which forms the beating heart of my home entertainment system is still dead, post lightning strike, so Thomas and I repaired to my office where the 27" iMac did sterling duty as a stand in teev.

I think I'll be happy to invest in this series. Possibly because I always thought Barry Allen's superpwer was the coolest of them all. Think of the commuting time you'd save.

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Lobes swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted December 13, 2014
i always liked the flash he has one of the most awesome suite of powers, definitely a favorite. However he suffers from superman syndrome in that he's so completely overpowered for any reasonable opponent that you find him battling existential threats week in wekn out.

TheWah reckons...

Posted December 14, 2014
The way the tv show is building his power level slowly is great.

He can run at 200 mph.. now it's faster.. can he hit 700 mph and run across water? Yes!
Can he break the sound barrier to save that girl's life.. woo!

It's be a fun ride watching Barry slowly figure out what a super speedster can do.

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TheWah would have you know...

Posted December 14, 2014
I've been really enjoying The Flash tv show. More light hearted and fun compared to Arrow. I've also been enjoying Constantine a hell of a lot too

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Paul_Nicholas_Boylan mumbles...

Posted December 14, 2014
This is wonderful television. Anyone can watch and enjoy it without having read the comics. But for those who read them, it is a special pleasure knowing who the Man in Yellow is and seeing how they adapt this old, established story line for television.

I love Arrow. I binge-watched the first two seasons on Netflix. Arrow is less joyous only because Barry Allen didn't walk through hell and back to become "special" the way Oliver Queen did.

The DC universe is as rich, if not richer, with potential media product than the Marvel universe. But Man of Steel and the Green Lantern were such horrible adaptations. It seemed the DC Powers That Be couldn't make the hard decisions needed to abandon the details they loved as children in order to breathe new life into the concepts. But with Arrow, the Flash and what looks like promising pending depictions of the Atom and the Spectre, it looks like those with the power and money to bring DC properties to new life finally have their shit together. We anticipate the Justice League and Batman v. Superman with new hope.

Barnesm asserts...

Posted December 14, 2014
Have to agree, it seems like Marvel might be winning on the big screen but DC is winning on the small. Agents of Shield not withstanding.

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Dave W swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted December 14, 2014
Flash! Ahhhooooo. Saviour of the universe!

Oh, wait. My bad.

Sudragon mumbles...

Posted December 14, 2014
Now I have to find and watch that movie again, if only for the soundtrack and BRIAN BLESSED.

Which also means finding Highlander as well.

Oh hell, lets make it a Cult Movie Christmas.

Anthony swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted December 14, 2014
No, please, not Brian Bloody Blessed. Unless you have a special Brian Blessed volume and pomposity controller...

Sudragon ducks in to say...

Posted December 14, 2014
But...but... no-one else chews scenery so well.

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Paul_Nicholas_Boylan asserts...

Posted December 14, 2014
Oh yeah, and Gotham is the best show on television.

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Barnesm ducks in to say...

Posted December 14, 2014
I wonder if "the man in yellow" will turn out to be the professor Xavier character in the TV series? (Dr Harrision Wells -Thank you wikipidiea)

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan mumbles...

Posted December 14, 2014
Don't know. Although the Reverse Flash story line, including Barry's mother's murder, is right out of the The Flash Reborn mini series, there is no Dr. Wells in any of the DC universes.

Barnesm is gonna tell you...

Posted December 14, 2014
Thats why I figure he could be the character after all Dr Caitlin Snow in the DC universe is 'killer frost' but I don't see Ms Panabaker's character going that way in this TV series.

Sudragon puts forth...

Posted December 14, 2014
Considering the latest episode, i wouldn't rule anything out.

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan asserts...

Posted December 15, 2014
That's the ultimate fun of anything worth watching: it keeps us guessing.

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Dan has opinions thus...

Posted December 15, 2014

Best thing about the new DC tv shows. They take the old, established material and in quite a few cases, turn it on it's head (a la Huntress in Arrow).

I am looking forward to what they do. No need to cling to the original stories beyond a nod and do something fresh!

Now if only DC can get their big screen sh*t together... being a Green Lantern fan since birth, I almost ended it after the film...
such pain, such agony.. like firing bullets at one meter and missing the target.

Dan

PS - I want my Hooper books NOW!! Thank you...

Barnesm ducks in to say...

Posted December 15, 2014
We don't like to talk about the green lantern movie, I think there's a support group for us.

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