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Thinky blog

Posted August 18, 2015 into Blunty by John Birmingham

Perhaps it's not Tony Abbott. Maybe it wasn't Julia Gillard, or Kevin Rudd. It might not even have been Mark Latham. (Spoiler, it was totally Mark Latham).

But Latham aside, the pity and madness of modern politics might not be the singular fault of a bizarre onion-eating Paleo-reactionary like Abbott, or a narcissistic personality disorder in search of ego validation… paging, well, pretty much all of them.

The pity and madness of modern politics might just be how we do politics now. It was not always thus.


At the Instrument.

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insomniac mumbles...

Posted August 18, 2015
If we can't get rid of parties, can we at least get rid of political staffers taking over from the incumbents. Anyone who hasn't had a real job for x number of years should be disqualified from standing. We might just get some sensible people in parliament rather than a bunch of toadies. How refreshing is it to see people like Muir and Lambie, and to some extent Turnbull; people who have some idea of the real world? If you can get a bunch of people into parliament, who sit somewhere between Muir and Turnbull, the country would be humming along nicely.
must... rest... brain... now...

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pitpat swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted August 18, 2015

Now the we are all webbed up in our own weave.

Participatory ( shudder) democracy anyone?

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Posted August 18, 2015
How about the NCP? The Non-Crazy party? Or how about the EBP? The Evidence-Based Party? A platform of supporting bills that are backed up by evidence. Now there's an idea. This, of course, is never going to happen.

So what about another method. Advertising for elections, times, places, locations, mediums, is paid for by government based upon your support in the populace. Do a cracker in an election, you get more advo bucks (or more importantly, more prime-time exposure) the next time around. Then chuck in a truth in journalism requirement, and you'll clear out some of the worst of the bile-filled wankers on both sides. More let's face it, on the rupert side, but that might just be me.

Our politics reflects our media habits. It is fractured, because our media is fractured. More languages, more cultures, more people switching off of news and main-stream information and entertainment every day. Our people don't have the same identifiable groups and organisations that forced politicians to take note when they are ass-hats anymore. More often than not, the largest groups remaining are groups of ass-hats who've never found anything more entertaining to do.

It would seem Aldous Huxley was right.

WarDog asserts...

Posted August 19, 2015

+1 for the EBP

This is really how politics is meant to work.

Pollies are then responsible for explaining and selling the best EB policy to the people.

But I suspect it is a bridge too far.

Bring on the AIs. Handball it all to them. We can't do it any worse.

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NBlob asserts...

Posted August 19, 2015
Thinky blog good. Must not sink with only 3 comments. Reminds me of a BarnesM rant about the future of public libraries blog.

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Posted August 20, 2015
The founders of the US also disliked political parties, but got them anyway.
Parties exist to articulate bodies of opinion and interest; they're alliances to get a platform enacted.
Nobody can get -everything- they want. A party enables you to get the maximum possible number of things on your bucket list.
If coalitions had to be renegotiated for every vote, not only would politics lurch about, but the corruption level would skyrocket -- as it does in proportional-representation systems, where something like that happens all the time.
Of all the systems, the least-bad is a parliamentary system with constituencies and Australian-rules preferred voting. Compulsory attendance is also a good idea.
Horrible as it may be to contemplate, the current Australian system is probably the best possible.

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Murphy_of_Missouri puts forth...

Posted August 20, 2015
Optimates and Populares.

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Classvtony would have you know...

Posted September 18, 2015
I live in the US and occasionally follow Australian politics. It's nice to know Australia has its share of Trumpty Dumpties.

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#ReclaimAustria

Posted July 28, 2015 into Blunty by John Birmingham

I was searching for a Blunty topic, not having much luck with the news cycle, and thinking it was going to be a toss up between Quade Cooper's tweet (and the need to for everyone to be given one Get-Out-Of-Jail-Free card on the Internet). Or Jimmy Barnes vs Reclaim Australia.

Neither really appealed, but then with one typo, I had my column.

"Do they not love Austria? Do they not want real Austrians to reclaim their birthright of legacy, while rocking out to Working Class Man, or wiping away a poignant tear about the horses on the beach song. That was a John Farnham one, right? The horses on the beach song? The beach which is now so crowded with the luxury boats of millions of brown boat people that there's not even enough room now for dinkum Austrian heritage horses to gambol about and recreate the charge of the Light Brigade at Beersheba."

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FormerlyKnownAsSimon puts forth...

Posted July 28, 2015
What no trolls this time? Or are the troll cannons working to order?

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insomniac puts forth...

Posted July 28, 2015
Just as an aside, Quade Cooper was born in the town in New Zealand that I grew up in. Our times there did not overlap but I don't want anyone thinking poorly of me as a result of that loose association.

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GhostSwirv puts forth...

Posted July 28, 2015
Mein Gott - Now I get it, the Arnie real estate ads were a prelude to invasion.

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Shifty Tourist would have you know...

Posted July 29, 2015

I'm not necessarily a fan of Cooper, he's part of the kick-away hard won possession, school of Rugby, which is deeply frustrating. But to be honest, If I were a professional sportsman, having to listen to the constant chattering from the peanut gallery for the entirety of your career about whether I should be selected for the team, my performance, that I'm past my peak, not as good as XXXX for the position, I think you should get a free-kick back against the peanuts now and then.

It must be terrible thing about those kind of jobs, unlike the rest of us, the entire public gets to comment on your work performance. Not saying there are not some massive benefits to compensate for this.... but they should be able to tell people to pull their heads in occasionally.

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Harden the fuck up, Brisbane

Posted July 14, 2015 into Blunty by John Birmingham

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w from brisbane reckons...

Posted July 14, 2015
I'm still waiting to be sucked down the polar vortex. The weather here has been nice. The coldest it's been so far is 10°C overnight. Beautiful, clear, intensely blue skies during the day. If you avoid a wind funnel area, in the sun there have been plently of people wandering around in short sleeve shirts.

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Murphy_of_Missouri mutters...

Posted July 14, 2015
When you get two feet of snow, call and talk to me about cold.

Living on the train tracks of the Siberian Express in North America,Murph
The Resentful

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan has opinions thus...

Posted July 14, 2015
They honestly have no idea of how good they have it, Murph. Believe me, I know. All I heard was complaints about the air not being quite clean enough, the river not being quite beautiful enough and the lifestyle not manifesting just the right balance between sloth and relaxation.

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Havoc ducks in to say...

Posted July 14, 2015
Jesus effing wept, pussies the fkn lot I say. Mate up here where I am at the moment in Cudgewa ( that’s about 10 minutes from |Corryong ) where they have the MAN FROM SNOWY RIVER GIG and thaey be hard as fkn nails, we go into COOL ROOMS of 1 degree to GET FKN WARM!
YOUR lot of BGB ( that’s BIG GIRLS BLOUSES) up there get a shift south of 10 degrees and they be screaming their collective….boobies off!
NOW..when I WNET TO SCHOOL in the WIMMERA…on me bike, I tells ya.MADE THIS SHITE LOOK REAL FKN TRIVIAL I SAY..NO MITTNED, GLOVES BEANINES AND ALL THAT OTHER GEAR. JUST FKN MAN TOUGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

insomniac puts forth...

Posted July 14, 2015
I concur. It's still t-shirt weather here on the NSW south coast.

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Posted July 14, 2015
Me bro-in-law reports that Dunedin standard year round uniform is shorts and a beanie. Them Southern Kiwis must be 'ard. Just hit 2.5 degrees C here in the Strathbogie Ranges - bloody heat wave is on again.

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HAVOCK21 would have you know...

Posted July 14, 2015
YEP, sure enough the arsehats at death start stupid rejected the comment, left this just now, its prolly gunna get fkn canned by thye shit heads as well.

NOW I had better change my ways, or the very fluffy nice and PC person who holds sway over the SPAM Button and whom does not want me to offend or post here will most certainly drop the ban hammer on this comment. Actually the last three have been sent to the bin would you believe. Its gotta be a girl in a pink dress and with pigtails I reckon. Actually that might offend so I take it back...kinda, its most likely a bloke/girl cross dressing perhaps not might only eat m,eat and may then only uses air type person I guess.

Either way. You Queenslanders are pussies *( that might also offend) , the Queenslanders word that is, oops did it again. HARDEN UP

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Halwes mutters...

Posted July 14, 2015
Freezing our arses off here too. Down to 23 degrees with a wind chill of about minus 20 I reckon. Overnight an unheard of 14 degrees

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Dave W is gonna tell you...

Posted July 14, 2015
What, Brisbane is cold? Ahhhh, these must be people who've never visited Canberra.

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Rob mutters...

Posted July 14, 2015
STFU Queensland.Sincerely Tasmania.
PS the pussy vortex went around our island.PPS ha haha

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damian swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted July 14, 2015
It's terrible, I tell you, I actually saw someone wearing a jumper.

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AuntyLou puts forth...

Posted July 14, 2015
Well I wish to register a complaint! I have an unreasonable number of both scarves and winter coats for a born and bred Queenslander... And I have been gyped(is that correct?) again!! On the Gold Coast & assured of a very frightening "polar blast from the coldest place on earth" & ended up in short sleeves at Surfers. We even went to Europe in February just to get me some proper winter weather & my long johns came back unworn! I can't catch a break. If any of you Burgers need a cold spell broken... let me know. Sure I can bring the heat ( ooh err!that sounds a bit rude..shut up old woman & put that wine glass down!) Anyway, back to being slightly over warm...

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JG reckons...

Posted July 15, 2015
Haha. Another classic, JB. Love this piece. I agree: Brisbanites are soft re cold weather. I grew up in Canberra where the winter nights got down to minus 6 Celsius at times. Just a mild, slightly chilly but refreshing morning in Brisbane this morning at 4 degrees Celsius. Pfft. Joanna

Dave W puts forth...

Posted July 15, 2015
Hey JG, I'm on the push-bike to work in those -6c mornings here in Canberra. Cyclists scoff at the soft motorists who complain about how cold it is (once our fingers and toes have thawed out, that is).

damian swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted July 15, 2015
I used to ride my bike around Canberra a lot. Polar-fleece lined fingerless wool gloves, a cotton jumper with a shirt and tshirt under and a scarf, jeans, Rivers "aviator" boots... minus 6 wasn't a big deal like that (unless it was really windy). Of course now I live in Brisbane it's the same outfit with but with a woollen jumper and a jacket over to walk the dog in the just-above-zero pre-dawn. And a jacket for the dog too (of course). Soft? Meh, older and disinclined to care.

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Posted July 15, 2015

It's the height of summer here in sunny Scotland. Max Temp today is 15C (T-Shirt weather!). The best we've had locally this year is about 25C in between torrential rain - humidity off the chart.

We actually had night frosts fairly regularly up until late June.

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The Base

Posted March 3, 2015 into Blunty by John Birmingham

From Blunty this morning:

There are lots of things you shouldn't import from America. Gun culture, health insurance schemes and possibly hamburger buns made entirely out of deep fried chicken breasts. Although I'm willing to be talked around on that last one.

One of the dumbest and most dangerous things we could ever drag back across the Pacific, however, is the idea of "the base" in politics.

More here.

But more interesting is BrianC's awesome fanfic below.

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w from brisbane has opinions thus...

Posted March 3, 2015
Good point about the difference due to compulsory voting. On a vaguely related point, the U.S. system where you can identify yourself as a Democrat or a Republican when you initially register to vote seems odd to me. Why is it so? What is the point? In Australia, the idea that elections are a secret ballot is core. Plenty might tell you how they voted, but it is generally considered an anti-democratic impertinence to ask someone.

insomniac reckons...

Posted March 3, 2015
Can't you tell just from the newspapers people read?

MickH is gonna tell you...

Posted March 3, 2015
That's because the US isn't a democracy anymore W, its a Oligarchy. It was never truly democratic to begin with.
http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-27074746

Sudragon asserts...

Posted March 3, 2015
Is it possible to be democratic when your demos is 300 million people? How about 1.2 billion (India)? Was the system more or less democratic before radio? television? the internet?

Should we be an oligarchy with, perhaps, an Assassins Guild to keep them on their toes?

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Darth Greybeard reckons...

Posted March 3, 2015
Dead right Mick. It is indeed an oligarchy and it matters little which party ostensibly wins. The corporations rule either way. Can't see it improving short of a 2nd revolution.

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan is gonna tell you...

Posted March 4, 2015
A deep enough economic depression/recession will do it.

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MickH puts forth...

Posted March 3, 2015
Actually there is some argument that it is now a Plutocracy

damian asserts...

Posted March 3, 2015
"Plutocratic oligarchy" is not an oxymoron. Far from it.

MickH is gonna tell you...

Posted March 3, 2015
Well...Actually most Oligarchies are Plutocratic so...yeah

Shifty Tourist is gonna tell you...

Posted March 4, 2015

WHAT!!!! When did Fracking Pluto invade!! Good work NASA, that was billions well spent.

Do you know who I blame? That's right, Thanks Obama!!

she_jedi reckons...

Posted March 4, 2015
That'll teach them to demote it to a dwarf planet. You don't mess with Pluto and come away unscathed. God of the Underworld and all that.

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Rhino has opinions thus...

Posted March 4, 2015
Politics crack me up. I studied poli sci and wanted to be a lawyer ... once. Until I read Cohen V. California and had to a paper. Anyway...
What is so funny is how much alike the more extreme sides of each spectrum are. So positive that they have all of the answers. Calling each other names. Lefties calling the Right "maddies" in the comments on Birmo's article. Righties calling the Left pussies, cry-babies, whatever.
All while the political classes in both countries hold onto power.
Idiots. All of us.

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Rhino would have you know...

Posted March 4, 2015
Darth Greybeard ... here is the issue with that revolution of which you speak - if indeed you are talking about Seppo Civil War Part Deux.
The people that are most accused of micro-aggression, if not outright racism? The people despised by the intelligentsia for their craven beliefs in Christianity? Yeah, they have 90% of the guns.
Oh, and those guys in the uniforms with all the really big guns? You think that they are going to fire on their families? Some will. Most won't. And, if my experience is any indication, a vast number of the ones that actually use the guns, not the support people, are generally in the same political sphere as those that fuel PETA members nightmares. NRA members. Hunters. Conservative.
Full disclosure, before the trolls get a whiff, I'm a staunch constitutional conservative and a social liberal ... I don't care who you marry, what substances you ingest, what you say, or what you do ... as long as it doesn't effect me or mine.

Darth Greybeard asserts...

Posted March 4, 2015
What you say is true but as Paul more or less says (Boylan not the Apostle) the shit just has to get deep enough. As I recall Tsarist Russia was a deeply religious country with a powerful army. Didn't count when the gap became too wide, too obvious and people got sufficiently angry. Ditto France under Louis XVI. Lots of priests, lots of troops - so how did that turn out? And of course those violent rejections ended up with communism and the reign of terror. Not optimal solutions in either case.I didn't necessarily mean a violent revolution though. Look at Iceland. You "just" need a political party of the kind you don't seem to have in the US, any more than we do here, which is not at the command of the ultra-rich. Call them vested interests, the 1%, the Corporations or whatever you like. They run our countries and do so to benefit themselves. Like the Bourbons and Romanovs, they find religion a most useful tool for maintaining control. That isn't a crack at religion in general btw, simply their use of it. Poor public education, xenophobia, racism and anything that generates ignorance, fear and division are of course useful as well, as we are seeing here every day. I doubt I'll live long enough to see any change for the better and I certainly wouldn't wish a violent revolution on my kids and grandkids. Besides, warming will almost certainly wipe us out within a century anyway. Good thing too. Useless species.

damian is gonna tell you...

Posted March 4, 2015
++Greybeard

Rhino would have you know...

Posted March 5, 2015
Iceland? You mean the nation that has an entire population of 300,000? That is just 7.5% of the metro area where I currently live (Atlanta, Georgia)?
I agree with Professor X ... if enough happens it will be a spark. My

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan is gonna tell you...

Posted March 5, 2015
A convergence of inevitable bad events (climate change/ocean acidification/viral pandemics/famine) [what William Gibson refers to as the "Jackpot" ] will cause social unrest. The only real question is whether this unrest will result in revolution(s) that replace status quo power structures or, instead, result in an endless series of localized peasant uprisings that always peter out. I hold with those who view the planet at a "post revolution" phase where lack of education/critical thinking skills now combine with surveillance and crowd control technologies sufficiently to prevent peasant revolts from being co-opted by organized revolutionaries.

The light shining from the Citadel of Human Reason is fading. Very soon only the Inferno will remain. As it was for the great weight of human history (interrupted only by a few decades) so shall it be again.

MickH mumbles...

Posted March 5, 2015
I agree Paul, I thing George Orwell's 1984 is coming except you have to add 100 to it

NBlob mumbles...

Posted March 5, 2015
Really X ? Man that's a harsh cold view of the future. Caitlin's monologue in Paris still haunts me. But mostly as a counterpoint to my perception of a progress across the centuries, of reason & science trumping woo. In Greybeard's youth, offerings were burnt to appease a golden bull. In his salad days the Roman Empire bought water to its population with engineers building viaducts that still span the European countryside. After a brief hiccup, for which I'm confident he bears responsibility, we discovered a mould that could kill bacteria, silicon that could count, and orbitals platform that could distribute Pr0n to discerning deviants around the world. How can this be other than a progression to rocket pants & global respect?

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Bunyip mumbles...

Posted March 4, 2015
Oh, sleepless one, that's too good. Ta muchly.

Lulu swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted March 5, 2015
Speaking of zombies, there was film on TV (SBS2) last night which had the don't-miss-this title of "Cockneys vs Zombies": about a crew of bank robbers who fight the zombie invasion from the East End of London. I really really wanted to watch it, but had to give up due to not understanding a word - because, you know, Cockneys.

Darth Greybeard reckons...

Posted March 5, 2015
Ditto. The slowest ever chase scene.

NBlob mutters...

Posted March 5, 2015
Double decker bus: worst zombie escape vehicle ever.

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan mumbles...

Posted March 6, 2015
Oh, I agree. It was hilarious.

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Paul_Nicholas_Boylan asserts...

Posted March 5, 2015
Grandfather: Oi! Zombies! Get the fuck out of my East End!


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Bad PM, worse party host

Posted November 18, 2014 into Blunty by John Birmingham

From Blunty today:

It could have been so different. Angela Merkel showed us how different when she lit out of her VIP Prison Camp on Friday for Caxton Street to knock the top off a couple of cold ones and photobomb an unknowable number of selfies. She didn't roll on the pub and club strip in a Tiger tank. She wasn't cordoned off from the punters. The German Chancellor was probably the only leader who'll leave the city with even the slightest sense that Brisbane is any different from any other collection of hotel rooms and underground car parks anywhere in the developed world.

How many of her fellow leaders could have joined her on the turps. To be sure, Obama couldn't. That's just not how the Americans work. It's the price of a gun culture. And given that Putin was just a little bit responsible for the death of dozens of locals and hundreds of other innocents a few months ago, he was probably better off staying in his hotel room channel surfing the cable porn.

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GhostSwirv mutters...

Posted November 18, 2014
Not being an officiano of BrisVegas, hailing as I do from sunny, wet, cloudy, steamy, hailing Melbourne, I wonder what Venues of Choice with their lethal array of Karaoke Death to Music Machines might the world's leaders have liked to visit and assault in the wee small hours on their visit to QLD.

Our Fearless Leader Tony ... "Carbon is Crap but Coal is Good" TwoTones could've drowned out his misundestimated sorrows with a mashup version of Sinatra's 'My Way' channeling the Sex Pistols and PSY - with David Cameron doing a tortured Air Saxophone in a darkened back corner beneath a battered Sting poster.

Angela Merkel, amidst the selfie's, would surely luvvv to belt out a sultry Prussian rendition of "Happy Birthday Mr President", while Barack listens in from the jacuzzi on Air Force One.

Putin meanwhile is 'Putin on the Fritz' - belting out show tunes from Cabaret as his security detail instructs the captive audience on how to show the appropriate appreciation via the barrel of an AK-47.

So if music can't bring the leaders of the Free and No So Free World together then I don't know what more we in Oz can do - except moan and complain about our lot in life - which seems to be what our leaders are best at.

John Birmingham ducks in to say...

Posted November 18, 2014
Ha. Gold

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Murphy puts forth...

Posted November 18, 2014
So . . . when are you guys dumping him?

Respects,
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FormerlyKnownAsSimon mutters...

Posted November 18, 2014
I try to stay away from the communtz but thought to myself i want to see how soon it will be before someone comments on the saudi reference. I was disappointed it didn't come in sooner.

John Birmingham mutters...

Posted November 18, 2014
I loved the guy defending Putin.

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GhostSwirv asserts...

Posted November 18, 2014
There's a gig on down here in Ol Vic in a few weeks time - once the auds gets it chance to sing - then the backroom promoters are sure to reassess TwoTone Tony's contract.

Sadly not too much talent lining up in the backing group to step up to the mic, most of us would rather the tour just folded and we got all of our money back.

Lulu swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted November 18, 2014
I was handed leaflets by The Greens at the station this morning. Last week it was the Socialist Party (not sure if they're standing candidates elsewhere or just in Richmond), who have my favourite slogan - "the best candidate money can't buy".

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Mark R Whittington ducks in to say...

Posted November 19, 2014
Actually some American presidents have been known to get out of the bubble from time to time. President Reagan, for example, popped in for a surprise visit at Pat Troy;s Ireland's Own Pub for lunch and a pint in 1988. That was seven years after a lunatic shot him outside a Washington speaking venue.

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G20: Come for the theatre, stay for the body cavity search

Posted November 11, 2014 into Blunty by John Birmingham

At Blunty:

It's adorable that Lord Quirky is so worried about the city turning into a ghost town this week that he's releasing a thousand free car spaces and begging punters to penetrate the puckered Ring of Steel. After all, it would be terribly embarrassing were some G20 delegate from Mexico or China to think they've landed in some pissant backwater; although given the number of neobrutalist dictators jetting in over the next few days, the massive and overwhelming security presence on the increasingly empty streets may well feel just like home.

"Oh look, Vladimir, sonic cannons! How thoughtful of Abbott the convict barbarian."

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Quokka asserts...

Posted November 11, 2014
Somehow I don't think Quirky was prepared for the kind of protest that the locals have organised. Which is to stick one finger in the air, close up shop, and go home.

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan is gonna tell you...

Posted November 11, 2014
As Eric Cartman says: "Screw you guys; I'm going home."

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w from brisbane has opinions thus...

Posted November 11, 2014
Authorities have been keen to reassure Brisbane residents that they shouldn't worry about the snipers on the building tops, after all, "it's time for Brisbane to shine".

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan mumbles...

Posted November 11, 2014
It's funny because it isn't happening to me.

Chaz asserts...

Posted November 11, 2014
G8 coming soon to Boylanville, Ca

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan mutters...

Posted November 11, 2014
Not funny, Chaz. Not funny.

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Surtac puts forth...

Posted November 11, 2014

So are you Brisneylanders going to get the F/A-18s flying racetrack patterns overhead all night, the way we did here in Canberra when we had US presidents in town?

I was very dirty on those b*stards disturbing my sleep like that.


Quokka reckons...

Posted November 11, 2014
Surtac: Helicopters.
Lots of.
It's been horrible around south bank & west end for weeks.

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Bondiboy66 puts forth...

Posted November 11, 2014
What exactly ARE fighter jets going to be good for in a situation like this? Dropping humanitarian aid like in Iraq? Even shooting down some possible terrorist controlled aircraft means the target is going to crash somewhere in the city...

Darth Greybeard mumbles...

Posted November 11, 2014
Ah yes, but somewhere else in the city. Tough luck proles.

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Murphy is gonna tell you...

Posted November 11, 2014
Why don't you guys use your military aircraft to do flyovers of sporting events after the anthem concludes? That is what we do here.

Just sayin'.

Respects,
Murph
On the Outer Marches

Halwes reckons...

Posted November 11, 2014
The worst thing about US flyovers is that they usually happen after the Iraqi, Afghanis etc have sung their national anthems.

damian has opinions thus...

Posted November 11, 2014
We used to do F/A-18s with their afterburners on for riverfire. Think the price of fuel stopped that eventually (they still flyover but).

National anthems at sporting events are relatively new, maybe 80sish. Though to be fair I'm thinking of local level stuff that took till then to die out here, maybe it did so earlier there. Still, think it's more about meat pies and tomato sauce than about sheep stealing and suicide (or, reluctantly, about advancing and being girt and stuff).

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Quokka has opinions thus...

Posted November 11, 2014
I cannot for the life of me figure out WTF the police chopper finds so very interesting that every day it needs to do laps of our 'hood. I think they must be so fucking bored they are taking photos of interesting renovations for their Block style home improvement ideas.
'Oooh Tracey would you look at that pool!'
Unless of course one of them has binoculars trained on our back yards, searching for bongoes, ukeleles and the odd straggly leafed pot plant, so they can come back for some ukelele busting fun when the G20 ceases to deliver.

Murphy mumbles...

Posted November 12, 2014
Maybe it is because I live in the flight path of the Downtown Kansas City Airport but what are you guys going on about? We hear helicopters and planes all the time.

Insofar as police helicopters go, there is only one for the entire metro and the various jurisdictions share it. We see more Blackhawks, Chinooks, and the ever so often Apache from the Missouri Army National Guard than anything else.

Respects,
Murph
On the Outer Marches

Halwes would have you know...

Posted November 12, 2014

Those coppers are over your house because CBG has obviously been catagorised as a subversive organisation. It's the same at my house. Oh wait a minute that's still the intervention. Anyway don't we all feel so much safer knowing there are cops in the sky with sub machine guns trained on the backs of our necks?

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ShaneAlpha puts forth...

Posted November 11, 2014
If it is all so sweetness and light why did they move Supernova con to after the G20? Something to do with cavity searching 30 000 cos playing geeks perhaps? And we all know that their personal hygiene can be a bit spotty? Or maybe it's not a good look gunning down teenagers with cardboard weapons....sometimes.

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damian mumbles...

Posted November 11, 2014
There was one of those big white fibreglass watchouse-on-a-truck things parked up on Greg Tce this arvo when I was driving home, with a few officers hanging around next to it, clearly bored to numbness. No idea what they were expecting. A couple had Movember mos.

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TheWah swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted November 11, 2014
Huzzah for security theatre. Some of the most exciting theatre we will get in this city this year - and for only 400 million dollars.


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MickH asserts...

Posted November 12, 2014
Coming late to this.
But its ridiculous here. The police presence is just, well, over the top.
I walk past the Mecure hotel of a morning and there were around 20 cops sitting around there inside the barricade, at 6.20 am looked bored stupid.
Our Aboriginal friends decided to get in on the act and had a march on Monday down Adeliade st. From the viewpoint of our 5th floor I reckon there were around 70 protesters. Walking on either side of them, in single file were 90, yes 90 police!! (i counted them). They marched again yesterday and the police presence was a little more realistic with 10 or so officers but still.

Can someone tell me what the point of all this is, except to rip millions of dollars out of the local commercial activity as people flee the circus? The top leaders are only here for a day too, after all the hype and circumstance, does anything actually get accomplished?

Oh, and there already stories of how there is no cop presence in our suburbs. Brace for a big weekend of crime guys while the cops parade through our streets looking like the para military they wish to be.
(I'm already seeing 140K plus speeds on the freeways)

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Quokka has opinions thus...

Posted November 12, 2014
one for each protester, Mick, there were a few old aunties and uncles with disabilities in the bus at the back of the march.
You never know how dangerous someone with emphysema could be.

MickH mutters...

Posted November 12, 2014
Especially the ones with the oxy tanks

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MickH mumbles...

Posted November 12, 2014
I had a talk to the coffee guy in our building this morning about how the week has been so far. He said "Bloody terrible", he has had to lay off staff and has lost a lot of business because of people staying away due to the G20. He said that all of the small businesses in the CBD were really feeling the pinch.

Someone tell me again how this is great for Brisbane?

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Quokka puts forth...

Posted November 12, 2014
When I made much the same reports about West End traders having the same grumbles, the Bloke grunted 'Blame KRudd. This was all his idea.'

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Quokka swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted November 13, 2014
http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2008/02/13/2161764.htm

Well Murph here's the shocker but apparently living under the flight path raises people's blood pressure, reduces their life expectancy &, before it kills them, in the lead up they get very, very cranky.

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Chaz is gonna tell you...

Posted November 13, 2014
We're getting emails from firms in brisbane CBD saying they're closing during G20 shindig.

MickH would have you know...

Posted November 13, 2014
Most of us are working from home today Chaz.

Halwes mutters...

Posted November 13, 2014

I went to Brisbane once but it was closed. Apologies to whoever I ripped this off from but, really, what's it got going for it anyway.? It's flamin hot with no sea breeze most of the time, there is a big brown drain running through it that floods like the end of the world, north enough for cyclones, not far enough north that you don't get bone chillingly cold winters, the worlds most right wing, corrupt politicians and too many southern blow ins trying to shape the joint in their own image. Name one good thing in Brisbane apart from the little remaining architecture, the Breakfast Creek hotel, Bent Books, the fantastic art gallery and museum, the last remnants of a pub scene, Lang Park, Eagle Farm and Albion Park trots.?

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan would have you know...

Posted November 13, 2014
Halwes, I've been everywhere from Beruit to Belfast to Boston. I love cities. And I love Brisbane for a thousand reasons and cannot wait to return.

Halwes would have you know...

Posted November 13, 2014
I've been to Bombay, Moscow and Calcutta and I rather go to Calcutta!!

Halwes swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted November 13, 2014
That last bit was bullshit

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Lulu has opinions thus...

Posted November 13, 2014
I've been to Bamberg, Breslau, Breclav, Bratislava, and Budapest but not Brisbane.

Halwes mumbles...

Posted November 13, 2014
What about Quilpie, Windorah or Coonabarabran?

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan reckons...

Posted November 13, 2014
I had big fun in Bamberg.

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Halwes asserts...

Posted November 13, 2014

Peppiminarti, Utopia, Numbulwar, Alyangula, Gapuwiyak is about my range nowdays

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan mutters...

Posted November 13, 2014
I wonder why Mullumbimby never makes anyone's list anymore.

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Anthony mutters...

Posted November 13, 2014

A poem I learnt at school (in Brisbane of course)


On the Queensland railway lines,
There are stations where one dines,
Private individuals
Also run refreshment stalls

Chorus
Bogan-Tungan, Rollingstone,
Mungar, Murgon, Marathon(e),
Garthanungra, Pinkenba,
Wanko, Yaamba; ha, ha, ha!

Males and females, high and dry
Hang around at Durikai;
Boora-Mugga, Djarawong,
Giligulgul, Wonglepong.

Pies and coffees, baths and showers,
Are supplied at Charters Towers;
At Mackay the rule prevails
Of restricting showers to males.

Iron rations come in handy,
On the way to Dirranbandi,
Passengers have died of hunger,
During halts at Garatdunga.

Lets us toast before we part,
Those who travel stout at heart,
Drunk or sober rain or shine,
On the Queensland railway lines.

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Darth Greybeard mutters...

Posted November 13, 2014
We lived in the same house in Brisbane for over 30 years, then moved to Melbourne. There are a few places I miss in Brisbane but there are pleasant places anywhere. What we really miss is the people. Certain Burgers, ex-colleagues, a few family, the Degenerate Diners with our over the top themed meals, food and wine based outings and general ribald fun. At 60+ you don't just drop easily into a new city and into a new group of friends. Luckily we both have family here and more fun-loving ones than most in Brisbane. (Vote Tex in Albert Park). Newspaper confected rivalries between this city and that make me tired. I could even go back to Ipswich and be happy - if the right people were there.

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan mutters...

Posted November 14, 2014
It is always the people that make a place.

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Paul_Nicholas_Boylan ducks in to say...

Posted November 14, 2014
But you could land in worst places than Melbourne.

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Therbs would have you know...

Posted November 14, 2014

Brisbane will get over it. Sydney's seen this sort of thing where some CBD cafes and shops are screwed for a week or so, then they come back. Its not only Qld police, they've imported interstate and Kiwi cops as well. They do love a big police force in Queensland.



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w from brisbane reckons...

Posted November 14, 2014
I think Brisbane is already over it. Not that it was really a biggie, just a bit tiresome with all the hoo-ha. But hey, we get a public holiday, they can do it every month if they like.

I think that the powers-that-be expected that the locals would feel some excitement and pride about the G20. But, people seem pretty underwhelmed. Meh, seems to be the feeling. The most powerful politicians on the planet just don't seem to have much celebrity cachet. Those are the people who are in the articles we don't click on. It's not as if any of them are Taylor Swift or anything.

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NBlob ducks in to say...

Posted November 15, 2014
Meh.
This kind of meeting is the lube which prevents national interests rubbing against each other from catching fire.
It's unfortunate that the good burghers of Brisneyland get to feel used & to lay on the wet spot.
A friend of a friend is putting little origami boats on traffic bollards all 'round G20, protesting the treatment of refugees. I thought it lovely, gentle & pointless.

TheWah ducks in to say...

Posted November 15, 2014
I saw three people doing this on thursday night on Story Bridge. A woman and two men. Dropping off origami boats full of rocks every 3 metres or so on the footpath. The whole bridge was covered. I had no idea what it meant and felt sorry for the cleaners who would have to clean up all those little rocks and paper boats.

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