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The completely disappointing I, Ron Man 2

Posted May 3, 2013 into Movies by John Birmingham

Lobes was wr... wro.... wr... less right than usual when he said I, Ron Man 3 wasn't a patch on '2'.

Here is proof.

From the internet.

The. Internet.

7 Responses to ‘The completely disappointing I, Ron Man 2’

Barnesm asserts...

Posted May 3, 2013

praise the internet. Though I prefered everything wrong with iron man 2 in six minutes click here

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Darth Greybeard would have you know...

Posted May 3, 2013

Bah. Just made me want to watch it again. Obviously slept through some bits.

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drej reckons...

Posted May 3, 2013

That was pretty good. Accurate too.

I thought Lobes said IM1 was the better film, not 2.

Its a shame they can't come up with better villains/showdowns for the franchise than just more and/or bigger versions of IM himself. So many better villains to choose from in the Marvel 'verse...

Lobes has opinions thus...

Posted May 4, 2013

Been loading it for an hour but I still cant watch the youtube because, I dunno, bandwidth or some shit. But Drej is right, I didnt comment on Ironman 2, just IM1 and IM3.

But to elaborate I will now rank all the Ironman movies in a hierarchy of awesome.

Ironman 1

Avengers

Ironman 3

Ironman 2

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w from brisbane has opinions thus...

Posted May 3, 2013

For me, the best comic book movie by a fair distance in recent times was Hellboy 2.

The first Helboy was OK.
Hellboy 2 is very good. Written and directed by Guillarmo del Toro.

w from brisbane puts forth...

Posted May 3, 2013

* Guillermo del Toro

pi swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted May 6, 2013

Really? I didn't like that at all. Well... not 'at all', but i found it difficult to engage. I ended up putting it on foxtel one night and realized I'd watched the movie before, and that hardly ever happens to me.

Best comic-book ever? hmmm... X-Men - First Class was pretty bloody good. And it has to be said, the newest incarnation of Dredd was teh awsum. And Sin City? Jeepers... how do you write off that one?

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I Ron Man

Posted May 3, 2013 into Movies by John Birmingham

I recall a drunken conversation with a friend from university, Dave Waddington, who was wetting himself with glee and too much cider, at a terrible late night movie he'd seen late the previous night, many, many moons ago.

It had the words Iron and Man in the title but because of poor scanning, when reduced from wide screen to teev screen, it had rendered as 'Ron Man'.

Dave found this vastly amusing.

I've never been able to find the B- or possibly C-grade flick which amused him so much. It appears nowhere on IMDB. Maybe it was some Italian-Japanese co-pro? It's been bugging me all week after having watched and enjoyed the most recent of the Marvel comix franchise movies on the weekend. (I enjoyed it even more when I heard it hadn't even been released in the US. Oh, how the mighty hegemon has fallen.)

Anyway, it's US release is imminent, and the terrible page view churn of pop cultural analysis is beginning. Esquire has a bit that I won't link to and wont recommend googling or binging up because it sports some terrible spoilers, but it caught my eye cos it investigated the deeper cultural psychology of the third iteration of the Ron Man series.

I am sucker for the deeper cultural psychology of mass market genre product.

Apparently its all about the luddite anxiety.

With the release of Iron Man 3 this Friday, summer movies begin arriving in earnest, which is the time the spiritual state of the American public is revealed. During the rest of the year, even the most mainstream Hollywood movies are made for niches. But summer movies are made for everybody. They have to be, to compete in the race to 350 million domestic. Their broadness makes summer movies incredibly useful as guides to the psychology of the American public. And if this year's crop of blockbusters is anything to go by, the American public is both obsessed with technology and absolutely terrified of it. They want to see supercool machines do incredible things and then blow up and go away.

This I found to be a startling hypothesis, and one which I really didn't take away from my viewing. Esky tied it in to a couple of other titles, but poorly. What is Pacific Rim, for instance, if not the triumph of machine over monster? And Star Trek Into Darkness hasn't even been released yet, so it's a bit of stretch to be citing it in support of your unsupportable thesis when nobody's seen the fucking thing yet.

I don't want to get into the end of I, Ron Man 3 because, you know, spoilers. But I fully epxect him to be there, kicking alien ass in the next of The Avengers installments.

Any US Burgers who haven't... snigger... seen it yet... go wild. And if you get the chance, check out the Chinese release. It has an extra four minutes of footage which make absolutely no fucking sense at all. New characters who have no thing to do with the storlyine but who throw out some great lines like, "Please let China help you, Ron Man."

You won't be disappointed.

19 Responses to ‘I Ron Man’

DrYobbo has opinions thus...

Posted May 3, 2013

Maybe it was Irian Man, the story of early Australopithicines found in west Papua.

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Shoulda known geography/evolution mashup jokes were wasted on you philistines

Dave W asserts...

Posted May 3, 2013

Irony man was a great hipster flick, I thought. Pop culture v pop culture mash-up?

Brian mumbles...

Posted May 3, 2013

No, no got that. But we're talking about movies and not sharing with our US friends. Peking Man seems appropriate.

BWS would have you know...

Posted May 3, 2013

* Reads Dr Yobbo's first sentence *

* Tumbleweeds *

* Reads Dr Yobbo's second sentence *

Yes, you should have.

Murphy has opinions thus...

Posted May 3, 2013

Is cool, Doc. I got it.

I feel ya.

Respects,

Murph

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Paul_Nicholas_Boylan would have you know...

Posted May 3, 2013

I deeply resent the fact that y'all can see it and I have to wait another day. "America" used to stand for something.

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w from brisbane mumbles...

Posted May 3, 2013

It could have been the 1931 film, IRON MAN, starring the wonderful Jean Harlow, the versatile Robert Montgomery, and a young Lew Ayres. Some of you older fans might remember Lew Ayres from his later starring role in the nine Dr Kildare movies.

This interesting film, which has nothing to do with a silly man in metal pyjamas, is another rather harsh Hollywood presentation of the world of professional boxing.

If you wish to enjoy a clip from the film, you could click on this link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_cfPIequIk

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skink1984 has opinions thus...

Posted May 3, 2013

I thought Australia had its very own Iron Man?

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pi is gonna tell you...

Posted May 3, 2013

Terrible thing that happened to that actor that played iron man.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0277941/

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BigWillieStyle ducks in to say...

Posted May 3, 2013

Could be an anagram. "No Marin", the true story of Tommy Chong striving to make it in Hollywood on his own. Or "Roma Inn", a road movie set in western Queensland.

BigWillieStyle reckons...

Posted May 3, 2013

Or "Rain Mon", the heartwarming story of a Jamaican savant with a head for numbers.

insomniac has opinions thus...

Posted May 3, 2013

"Rain Mon" is brilliant.

15 and a half stars out of 17

Lulu has opinions thus...

Posted May 3, 2013

I'm PMSL at Rain Mon.

Brother PorkChop asserts...

Posted May 3, 2013

I think I saw it advertised on the interwebz thingy - I, Ron Jeremy, Man. Something about getting a bigger tadger. Dunno, could that be it?

insomniac reckons...

Posted May 3, 2013

how about "Mr Anion", who seems like an ideal candidate for an archenemy, but as its cations that cause iron to rust he'd have to be some sort of nerdy sidekick protecting Iron Man, unless there is one of those already, which I wouldn't know because I haven't seen any of the movies because I have, you know, a life.

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Bunyip asserts...

Posted May 3, 2013

You're not confusing it with Ironning Man, the tale of the adventures of a stay-at-home dad?

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Lobes mutters...

Posted May 3, 2013

Saw it the other day. Avengers and Iron Man 1 shit all over it. Worth a torrent but not much else. Robert Downey Jr is now just phoning in the wisecracks with very little depth or spontaneity. The level of action is high but rivals Transformers for its incoherence.

2 stars out of 4.

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tqft mutters...

Posted May 3, 2013

Enjoyed the flick. I can see a visit in a flyover location in a future movie.

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YB swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted May 3, 2013

If you could have done this well a week ago, we coulda been a contender. No, let's bring the lols too late. JB weeps for what might have been.

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The Spoiler Convention

Posted April 23, 2013 into Movies by John Birmingham

I did a little of recce of some of the other finalists in the Best Blog Comp, not because I give a fuck, because I totally don't – see, this is me not giving a fuck – but because I'm always on the lookout for new ways to waste time.

I particularly enjoyed wasting my time at Thomas Caldwell's film crit blog, Cinema Autopsy. Unfortunately it's not a blog purely about films about autopsies. But it's still pretty cool. He had a write up of Warm Bodies, which I read, even though I have an iron law; never read the review first. More of why, later.

But his Warm Bodies review I read because having just finished Walking Dead S3, I find myself hungering for a discussion of zombie tropes like Zombie Principal Skinner hungers for the delicious honor student brains of Martin Prince. Caldwell's writing is clear and informed but unburdened by wank. He knows his mass culture.

The problem with zombies is there is only so much that can be done with them before audiences develop zombie-fatigue, no longer content to simply see how many creative ways zombies can be dismembered; Peter Jackson pretty much pushed that as far as possible in Braindead (1992). Instead, filmmakers in recent times have had to find other novel ideas to present zombie narratives. In [Rec] (2007) Jaume Balagueró and Paco Plaza experimented with film form to present a ‘found footage’ zombie film. Romero did the same, although less successfully, in the same year with Diary of the Dead. In 28 Days Later… (Danny Boyle, 2003) and the television series The Walking Dead (originally developed by Frank Darabont, 2010-ongoing) the zombie presence is secondary to the human drama, their threat serving almost as a McGuffin to allow for an exploration of how humans behave under intense duress.

I dunno that I'd drop the walkers and biters of TWD into the McGuffin box. They're a lot more than that, but the wider point is otherwise reasonable. I didn't so much suffer zombie fatigue by the end of Seaon 3; I still love a good zombie kill, especially as practised by Michone. But the visceral horror the undead first elicited was gone, and now it's all about the tension. Will Andrea get out of the dentists chair in time? Will Hershel be to slow to escape the feed lot in front of the prison?

Caldwell made me want to see Warm Bodies, mostly by referencing Buffy when introducing the film's female lead. But the thing I really, really appreciated about this write up?

It didn't lay out the fucking plot.

I said earlier that I have a rule about reading reviews. I don't. Read 'em that is. Not until I've seen the film for myself. And then more often than not to disagree with the reviewer. Mostly the dumb arse films I love to watch get such poor reviews that I dont want my enjoyment ruined by having to filter the experience through the puckered sphincter of some uptight cinema wankiste.

But mostly I refuse to read reviews because so many of these clowns can't write a review without recounting all the major plot points. Hands up anyone who remembers failing a high school film review assignment for simply recounting the plot?

Havoc, you can keep your hands down. We take your failure as a given.

I have no idea what actually happens in Warm Bodies, beyond the broadest brush strokes of outline, but I do feel like I understand what sort of film I'm likely to see, and that is how it should be.

This all comes from having Unforgiven ruined for me by the rightfully defunct Times on Sunday's film reviewer. I read her review in the days when I still reviews because, you know... Clint! And cowboys!

She gave away the ending of the film in about the third or four paragraph. I dont even want to talk about it on the off chance there's somebody here who has foolishly never seen this movie. If you haven't, leave now. Go away and place this fine piece of cinema into your possession. You are in for a treat.

But my treat was ruined by that review. As great as the story of Unforgiven was, I couldn't enjoy it because I went in knowing what came of the showdown between Eastwood's character and Gene Hackman's hard, brutal lawman. You knew that showdown was coming from moment Hackman walked onto the screen, but Eastwood confirmed it when, in the character of Will Munny he finds out that sheriff Little Bill, like most men, knows him by reputation.

"But that didn't scare Little Bill at all, did it," he says to one of his henchmen. (Or words to that effect.

A perfect set up. Ruined by a hamfisted reviewer.

I have never recovered.

Which is why I appreciated Caldwell's so much.

22 Responses to ‘The Spoiler Convention’

Therbs would have you know...

Posted April 23, 2013

Aside from hating the entitled spoilerism so well flaunted by reviewers, a lot of the time I either don't rate their intellect or want to wait to compare notes with them post popcorn munching. Also sometimes I just can't be arsed with bothering to check them out. Laziness can be a virtue.

John Birmingham asserts...

Posted April 23, 2013

In this case, laziness is totes a virtue

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Barnesm mutters...

Posted April 23, 2013

I am so sorry that Unforgiven was ruined for you for it was certainly a magnificent film, not a movie as I have heard some make the distinction, not me becuase I think its a wanky thing to say, ... what was I saying - yeah Unforgiven fraking fabulous film and the showdown a highlight.

"deserve got nothing to do with it"

Oh and I would suggest you should include in the variation on the zombie films, Shaun of Dead, as the first RomComZom. I am looking forward to Warm Bodies, surprising I know. Especially how he wake up at the end and realises that the kid was only talking to him because he was actually dead, oh and that the aliens can be killed by water.

DrYobbo would have you know...

Posted April 24, 2013

SPOILER ALERT

Seriously, what kind of abject fucking miserablist wankbadger gives away the ending to Unforgiven in a review of Unforgiven??

On par with the review of The Usual Suspects I once read which said 'Kevin Spacey is brilliant in the role of Keyser Soze'... yeah thanks for that arsebag

Barnesm has opinions thus...

Posted April 24, 2013

Can add Enterainment News in the US as waking spoliers when they gave away Cumberbatch's identity in the new Star Trek film on their font cover a few months back.

BigWillieStyle is gonna tell you...

Posted April 24, 2013

Yobbo, I recall driving to work one morning years ago listening to Triple J. This was when The Usual Suspects was in the cinemas, and I hadn't yet seen it. Anyhoo, Mikey Robbins is going on about what a great film it is, and Helen Farking Razer suddenly yelps, "Kevin Spacey is Keyser Soze! Kevin Spacey is Keyser Soze!" I've pretty much hated her ever since.

DrYobbo mutters...

Posted April 24, 2013

As good a reason as any.

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Dino not to be confused with has opinions thus...

Posted April 23, 2013

Unforgiven

Have to watch that one again. Shit is it 20+years? Really?

Reviews should embellish/complement the anticipation and experience.

I loved TWD and will watch Season Three when it arrives at the video shop.

Oh and chickybabes with brains is hot, gonna put ma' teeth in and eat some brains, look out 'purple'.

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NBlob mumbles...

Posted April 23, 2013

The title may have been a hint, but Fck me Birmo, when you drop spoilers they need a pilot vehicle, a cop escort with flashing lights and orange and fcking red flags.

Denist chair. Arse. What's next, they all turn into vampires in a bar?

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w from brisbane mumbles...

Posted April 23, 2013

Years ago, during the Brisbane Film Festival, I was at a retrospective showing of Stanley Kubrick's 'Paths of Glory'. I was with some mates who hadn't seen it.

Before the film, for some godawful reason, they got film cineaste John Baxter (I like your alternate description, JB) to introduce the film. As we were sitting in the theatre waiting to view this classic, Baxter (and he was wearing a black skivvy) laid out the plot and gave his interpretation of the film's denouement. Faaaaarrrrkkk!! My mate beside me had his fingers in his ears going 'Mi, mi, mi, mi, mi'. I could hear other theatre goers saying variations of 'Could someone get this fkn clown to shut up!!!' Baxter droned on, oblivious. It was like some ridiculous skit.

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Paul_Nicholas_Boylan swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted April 24, 2013

I enjoyed Warm Bodies, and recommend it even though all of it is predicatable, spoilers notwithstanding.

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Lulu mutters...

Posted April 24, 2013

I think the biggest spoiler spoil of the Unforgiven era was The Crying Game. The Unforgiven ending was at least a 50/50 choice between two possible, known outcomes. Crying Game was like being told in advance that an unexpected meteorite will hit you from outer space.

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TC puts forth...

Posted April 24, 2013

So... spoilers. I'm up to about Ep 10 or 11 in TWD, so after avoiding your other blog and not realising I was getting in so deep in this one, I nearly screamed at you for fucking it all up for me. Then I realised that you hadn't. Phew.

I must say, Cinema Autopsy is the only other blog on the honour roll I bothered checking, and I have to agree that it's pretty awesome. I used to enjoy Cinematopia because Jim whatsisface looked at every movie through the lens of who it was created for and judged it with that context in mind. And he didn't spoil any of them them, adding a warning for when he came close, so I knew I could read his reviews prior to seeing the movie (as long as I didn't read the munters adding their inane fucking comments about the final scene underneath). Anyway, that site is dead and buried and I've been looking for a cinema site since. And if anyone says David and Margaret they can go fuck themselves.

Lulu puts forth...

Posted April 24, 2013

Jim *might* be writing for the Herald Sun now, but I don't read the Evil Empire's papers so I might be wrong on that.

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Barnesm would have you know...

Posted April 24, 2013

I was amused at a screen of the Cameron's 'Titanic' when one of the viewers complained that a review had revealed the ship sank at the end of the movie.

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Barnesm swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted April 24, 2013

I was amused at a screen of the Cameron's 'Titanic' when one of the viewers complained that a review had revealed the ship sank at the end of the movie.

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan asserts...

Posted April 25, 2013

When the first (awful) remake of King Kong screened in Hollywood back in the 1970's, at the end of the film the lobby was filled with people with microphones who wanted statements from people who just saw the film. One approached me and asked me how I liked the movie and I said "This movie had a gorilla in it. I hate movies with gorillas in them." I will always treasure the memory of the look on his face.

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TC mutters...

Posted April 24, 2013

So... I just went back to Cinema Autopsy hoping for the same kind of spoiler-less but nonetheless thought provoking review that was seen for Warm Bodies.

I read the Iron Man 3 review and now don't need to see it. Plus I now know more about the subtle undertones of the movie than the writer, the director and all the cast members. Might remove CineAut bookmark.

Dino not to be confused with mutters...

Posted April 24, 2013

Yeah TC,

I read a very different interpretation.

The use of cinema as a mirror.

The current batch is big budget high tech and entertaining.

Multi layered narratives with ROI. Nothing wrong with that in my book.

Better than lots of 60 second long, up close frames in B&W with atonal music in the background but each to his own.

TC reckons...

Posted April 24, 2013

Don't get me wrong, Dino - IM3 sounds fucking awesome, as would be expected after 1 & 2.

***** SPOLIER ALERT *****

And I was exaggerating a bit in my 'subtle undertones' quip, but not about the spoilers. I now know how the whole movie will pan out and I even know that I'll be pissed off at the end because of a big fuck off deus ex machina. That's just goddamn annoying.

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Dino not to be confused with swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted April 24, 2013

TC

Just saw the IM3.

Loved it. As good as IM1 except no akadaca.

Of note everyone looks younger than IM1 etc except the 'therapist'.Of note, brace yourself Burgers, someone in the audience had not seen RC Avengers,I kid you not!

PS: Also the card formulae are interesting. Incorrect but interesting.

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w from brisbane swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted April 25, 2013

Re: Plot detail in reviews.
The alternative view is below. i.e. we are writing art criticism and plot detail is relevant and it is intended to be read by people who have seen the film.

That is crap, of course, because, if the review is intended to be read by people who have seen the film, then why is there the push to publish the review before most people have seen the movie?

http://www.film.com/movies/oblivion-spoilers

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Star Trek into Awesomeness

Posted April 18, 2013 into Movies by John Birmingham

Blarkon gave us a shout out, but not a link to this bad boy yesterday. And if the Space Lizard approves. It must be good.

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Quokka has opinions thus...

Posted April 18, 2013

Yes, and goody.

Anyone know when it's released here in Oz?

Quokka reckons...

Posted April 19, 2013

thanks, Barnesm.

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Barnesm reckons...

Posted April 18, 2013

I am off to the IMAX 3d Extravaganza on Sunday 12 May, bought tickets for the weapon and I yesterday. It will include the 2009 Abrams Star Trek followed by Trek into Darkness. So its on at least as soon as May 12 here in Auz maybe earlier (May 12 is before the UK and US are showing it I think).

Of all the speculation of the character being played by Cumberbach...

All I can say about that

They certainly decided to take Harry Mudd in a dark direction for this one.

Darth Greybeard swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted April 18, 2013

The Tribbles are back - and this time they want your BLOOD.

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Murphy has opinions thus...

Posted April 18, 2013

Man, can not even J.J. Abrams break away from "The U.S.S. Enterprise Versus Big Dumb Object. Round One, FIGHT!" cliche?

Just wondering.

Respects,

Murph

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Shifty Tourst asserts...

Posted April 18, 2013

Its a step up from the Enterpise vs Big Dumb Alien Societal Complication days of the original series and Next Gen years.

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John Birmingham mutters...

Posted April 18, 2013

But if the 'prise won't take on all the big dumb objects, who will?

Well, Murphy? Who will??!!?

Murphy mumbles...

Posted April 18, 2013

The Death Star can handle it.

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Barnesm asserts...

Posted April 18, 2013

I smell an Oscar best use of big dumb object.

Murphy puts forth...

Posted April 18, 2013

Barnes, if that was the case, any random porno film with a vibrator could win the Oscar.

Respects,

Murph

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Barnesm mutters...

Posted April 18, 2013

and are you saying that some p0rno films are less deserving of an Oscar than some film that get them.

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HAVOCK21 ducks in to say...

Posted April 18, 2013

pretty fkn awesome, watched it last week too, ITS HAVOCKNESS in SPACE!, kicking the shit outta fkn space muppets and hopefully some fkn lizardoe's as well!

OH and WHERE THE FK IS BLUNTY?

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yankeedog reckons...

Posted April 18, 2013

Far better Trek action:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hnBp7x2QAE

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MarkM mumbles...

Posted April 18, 2013

My wife, in her capacity as an entertainment writer, is interviewing JJ, Chris Pine and Karl Urban next week. Then she is going to a sneak preview of the movie.

In the middle of the day.

While I'm at work.

Bitch!

tqft asserts...

Posted April 18, 2013

I am available to take your spot

MarkM mutters...

Posted April 22, 2013

TQFT - so sorry I didn't see this sooner. Well, kinda sorry...

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TC asserts...

Posted April 18, 2013

I know I shouldn't say it here, but I was never a big fan of the Trek until JJ Abrams came along and modernised it all (hmm... even I can see the irony there). I really enjoyed the 2009 movie and am looking forward to seeing this. Big Dumb Object and all.

Barnesm mutters...

Posted April 18, 2013

also there has been an effort to tone down the lens flare.

The bridge still looks like and apple store though

John Birmingham has opinions thus...

Posted April 18, 2013

Your point being?

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Blarkon puts forth...

Posted April 18, 2013

The thing that the Enterprise is fighting there is another Federation Starship, piloted by Sherlock.

And given that the Apple Store Enterprise is bigger than the 1701-D (according to the specs - I'm not sure I buy the official specs as the scale seems off) - Sherlock's ship may be as big as a Star Destroyer.

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Murphy has opinions thus...

Posted April 18, 2013

Yeah . . . sorta figured that out on my own, thanks.

I'm going to scream, "BULLSHIT," in the movie theatre if it is called, "Reliant."

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Barnesm swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted April 18, 2013

Current thinking on the geekweb suggests it might be a secret federation battleship, constructed in contravention of the federations peaceful exploration mandate and that Cumberbatch is its captain who stole it. Saying it out loud sounds a bit Hunt for Red October doesn't it?

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dzt! ducks in to say...

Posted April 18, 2013

Oh man, this looks awful!

Barnesm swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted April 18, 2013

awfully GREAT.

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Dino not to be confused with ducks in to say...

Posted April 20, 2013

Best awesomeness trailer.

Much better than the first one.

I love that they kept the 'claxson' scream scene.

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Man of Steel trailer

Posted April 17, 2013 into Movies by John Birmingham

Funny thing is I never really bought into the Superman mythology, but this looks pretty cool.

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xenodyssey asserts...

Posted April 17, 2013

Well at least it doesn't look campy. Surprisingly dark in design, I've always thought of Krypton as being a planet of light rather than darkness. Maybe Snyder has placed it in a parallel universe.

It does have the usual quota of Hollywood explosions.

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insomniac mutters...

Posted April 17, 2013

as i can't see it at work i'll assume it's a reference to little johnny howard

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TC is gonna tell you...

Posted April 17, 2013

I just watched that while eating lunch and it looks pretty cool. As a (relatively) new dad with two young boys, the scenes with Clarke's two dads pulled at the heart strings a bit.

The story reminds me a little too much of Thor though, which I didn't enjoy much. And I find it odd that I need to erase my memory of Krypton being destroyed a few decades ago...

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Barnesm puts forth...

Posted April 17, 2013

This has incorporated some of the cooler ideas that have been raised is some of the incredibly convoluted backstory that comes with 75years of comic history, seriously hates off to Mr Snyder for trying to work some of these more interesting threads into a contemporary movie. And I will unreservedly apologies to anyone who has spent anytime following in the comix, Tv series, etc as I have only peripherally followed the incredibly labyrinthine coils of DC’s superman cannon.

The theme of Superman leading by example, inspiring us to be better is the motivator that drives why Lex Luthor hates superman in some of the more interesting stories. Rather than Lex being simply a villain who hates superman because he thwarts his schemes moo- haaa Lex opposes Superman because he offers an example that simply teaches people that they have to be super or if they simply were super then these challenge can be n]met. Lex point is that we should be the drivers following our own paths, not some creature birthed under an alien son.

The Kyrpton scenes suggest they have adopted the Civil war story line that sees the Kyrtonians being galaxy sized arrogant jerks fighting power and destroying their plant. This story line arose and may have influence Moffats reboot of Doctor Who to make the time lords mighty and terrible and the Doctor the exception rather than the typical time lord. The Kyptonian civil war allows them to introduce General Zod, who I think we can all agree Terrance Stamps Zod was the best thing in Superman II

But I will happy as long as there is some variation of this

“Zod!

Kneel before me”

and that they treat the only other character that has been around in Superman comics as long as superman, and was there before Zod, Perry White and Jimmy Olsen, with some respect. I am of course talking about Ms Lois Lane.

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Quokka is gonna tell you...

Posted April 17, 2013

Russell Crowe WTF?

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Timmo mutters...

Posted April 17, 2013

Yes, Q, my thoughts exactly...

Looks OK apart from Rusty and his Voice Over.

Do they not have the rights to the "Superman" name, or is it just about drawing a distinction from the previous films? Or both?

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w from brisbane asserts...

Posted April 17, 2013

WTF! Russell Crowe. Great!

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JG is gonna tell you...

Posted April 17, 2013

I like Superman's eyes.

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HAVOCK21 is gonna tell you...

Posted April 17, 2013

WTF..what about Rusty, he fkn rocks, hes got the presence and looks and do not tell me for ONE FKN MINUTE he aint got the fkn voice for the voice overs. This looks like a complete fkn cracker, worthy of a FKN GOD!!!!!! like me to watch!

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Quokka reckons...

Posted April 17, 2013

The best thing I've seen Russell Crowe in so far was South Park.

HAVOCK21 ducks in to say...

Posted April 17, 2013

OH you soooo need to wash your mouth out!...THATS BAD!!!!!! Aunty

Quokka reckons...

Posted April 17, 2013

Please tell me he doesn't sing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygcRrfQt-0Q

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tqft mumbles...

Posted April 17, 2013

Have watched the trailer twice.

I can overlook Rusty if he isn't too in my face. But my wife hates him (something about being an arrogant jerk). She loves telling the story about booing Rusty & his band off the stage at the Calamvale Hotel or Mansfield Tavern.

Quokka has opinions thus...

Posted April 17, 2013

I must buy Mrs. TQFT a carrot juice sometime and clap her on the back.

TC asserts...

Posted April 18, 2013

Hmm... TQFT is startlingly similar to TOFOG. Conincidence...?

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Posted April 18, 2013

No not ever. While I do abuse my guitars from time to time I can't sing or dance and not really the person to get on stage

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Blarkon mutters...

Posted April 17, 2013

Today's Star Trek trailer looks pretty great as well. More Star Wars than Star Trek, but damn Sherlock's ship looks like it kicks arse.

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w from brisbane asserts...

Posted April 17, 2013

Russell Crowe. Great actor! He now struggles for material. The intelligent drama. They don't make them much anymore.

As Jon Favreau (actor, Director of Iron Man 1 & 2) said, Hollywood only makes 2 kinds of movies, movies for teenagers and movies for pre-teens.

And as someone else remarked; we used to get our scripts from history books, now we get them from comic books.

pi asserts...

Posted April 19, 2013

History is so over-rated. The good guy doesn't always win. Not nearly enough sex. Or, not enough of the good sort. People, for the most part, are prettn effn boring.

Comic books on the other hand. Tight scripts. Scenes already developed. Good. Evil. Sex. Good guy wins. Except when it's awesome for them not to.

History doesn't stand a chance.

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damian is gonna tell you...

Posted April 17, 2013

Goodness, that doesn't look hald bad. I like the sonic boom effect. If he'd been working *with* those A10s, it'd kind of have a feel of the old "superman goes to war". But anyway...

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Dino not to be confused with ducks in to say...

Posted April 17, 2013

Why are ''Australian actors"in these movies?

Bit Parts?

I never was a Superman Afficianado cause themovies portrayed him as too good.

I am on a foreign computer cause mine has win8 and apparently CBG works on Lotus notes '98.

I willcommenton previous threads when I next escape.

Love yous

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Quokka puts forth...

Posted April 18, 2013

Dino, I was an avid comic enthusiast when I were a lass so I will watch any reboot of a superhero just to see what they've done with it. I watched the Smallville series and was really impressed by the writing (much better from season 3 when they added Lois, her put-downs & gaffes are just wicked) & the addition of some new characters, like Chloe Sullivan as Clark's BFF/tech nerd/rebelllious hacker.

The idea that they ran with in the series was that kryptonite could infect humans & it rarely improved their characters.

Michael Rosenbaum was awesome as the young Lex, and casting John Glover as his father was a stroke of genius. Lex was conflicted and Lionel Luthor was a nasty piece of work. My favourite episode is when Lionel managed to switch bodies with Clark & he wandered round being a total arse to everyone. Lex's character made the point in one episode that the journey into darkness doesn't happen in a single step, it's a slow progression, and I for one loved watching that.

Terrence Stamp played the voice of Jor-El and he totally owned the role of arrogant alien twat. Which is why I'm so pissy about Russ being cast in that role. Jor-El is meant to be the foremost mind in an advanced and stoic scientific culture. He's not some yit that yells 'GO RABBITOHS!' over a schooner of VB & chucks a phone at the help when things don't go his way.

Not. Appropriate. Casting.

Boo, and Hiss.

Rob swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted April 24, 2013

What they needed to do was have a digital Marlon Brando as Jor-el. This way we could have a Jar Jar Binks for the comic book set. Bound to better than Rus Le Roq.

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Rob mutters...

Posted April 19, 2013

'no capes robert'

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It's the end of the world. Again

Posted April 13, 2013 into Movies by John Birmingham

When I saw the trailer for It's a Disaster, about a brunch at the end of the world, I couldn't help but think the producers were ripping off, er, I mean riffing on Nevil Shute's On The Beach, which was a late '50s movie (Gregory Peck and Ava Gardner no less) and an early naughties TV series. The movie was famous for Ava Gardner remarking that Melbourne was a perfect place to shoot a movie about the end of the world.

But no, It's a Disaster seems to be mining a much fresher seam of apocalypse comedy, which maybe came to note with Seeking a Friend for the End of the World. And by 'came to note' I mean 'passed by unwatched and unrecognised and not really noted at all.'

Or if you want to get pedantic, maybe it was Shaun of the Dead which kicked of the end times comedy tour. But I'd argue Shaun and Zombieland were more specifically about refashioning the undead subgenre than any overarching apocalypse theme.

The more interesting contrast is probably with the unabashedly bigger, dumber and louder This is the End, which looks a lot more Hollywood, despite its indie stylings.

This looks a lot more, I dunno, 'self aware'? No... self conscious, I think, than the Julia Stiles vehicle, but both of them look worthy of a night in front of the flat screen.

There's probably a metacultural point to be made about the existential exhaustion which leads up past fear of the end and into laughing at it. The rise of the disaster movie, in the 1970s, had a lot to do with Irwin Allen, but even more to do with Irwin's finding a way to cash in on a generalised fear of decay and collapse that gripped the western imagination after the 1960s finally shrivelled up and died in 1973.

The thing about those first disaster movies?

They had no sense of humour at all.

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Abe Frellman is gonna tell you...

Posted April 13, 2013

My uncle was an extra in the original On the Beach. He didn't have much of a sense of humor either.

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Dino not to be confused with reckons...

Posted April 13, 2013

Seeking a Friend for the End of the World.

A great flick.

I thoroughly recommend it.

And the shortmovie 'Thermal Expansion'

Also with Steve.

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tqft is gonna tell you...

Posted April 13, 2013

For more immediate consumption tonight on SBS

French cop/zombie flick - The Horde. is it any good?

http://www.sbs.com.au/guide/day/2013-04-13/location/NSW#/program/4716815

Barnesm swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted April 13, 2013

Hell yes

Barnesm ducks in to say...

Posted April 13, 2013

and in case anyone was confused with my recommendation

hell yes, see The horde, before it gets made over in to an American movie.

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Dino not to be confused with ducks in to say...

Posted April 13, 2013

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/joyce-to-challenge-windsor-20130413-2hs1g.html

I feel there is some connection...

It actually sways me to Partisanship in an oblique non-judgemental way...

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Darth Greybeard ducks in to say...

Posted April 13, 2013

I thought the Cabin in the Woods did the whole "Screw it, let's get it over with" feeling pretty well.

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ShaneAlpha would have you know...

Posted April 13, 2013

I love the line in This is the End "Hermoine just stole all our shit!" and yes a very self aware filum given the actors are playing themselves and the movie is set in James Franco's house.

and don't forget the next Simon Pegg/Nick Frost/Edgar Wright movie "The Worlds End"

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Barnesm asserts...

Posted April 13, 2013

I was going to mention the Simon Pegg/Nick Frost/Edgar Wright movie, i wonder if they wil outline the plot like they did at the start of Shaun of the Dead.

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ShaneAlpha puts forth...

Posted April 13, 2013

and have you noticed the uptick in disaster preppers in recent years? 1970's all over again.

Had a conversation recently with one of them "young people" was a bit taken aback that he was so suprised that a lot of people of my generation had a extensive understanding of nuclear weapons and their effects. I had to explain that we had to learn it because we fully expected to experience the effects first hand and in the 3 milliseconds before we were consumed in the fireball it would be nice to appreciate the technical aspects of what was about to kill us.

Barnesm swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted April 13, 2013

and did you tell them to "get off your damn lawn" as well?

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mordwa would have you know...

Posted April 13, 2013

@ShaneAlf

"Ho yes, H-Bomb, 15 megaton, jolly good show, carry on pip-pip"

Not ...exactly... my preferred last words, but hey - it's not like we'd argue afterward-!

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ShaneAlpha would have you know...

Posted April 14, 2013

Nothing says "Get off my damn lawn you crazy kids!" like land mines.

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