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Not sure how I feel about this Han Solo movie spin off

Posted July 10, 2015 into Movies by John Birmingham

Disney seems intent on creating a whole universe of media for Star Wars, but I can't be alone in feeling a little nervous about the announcement of a stand alone film exploring Han Solo's early years. It was great to see an old and crumpled Han at the end of that last trailer and I sorta wonder how we'll go watching Ford reprise the role in The Force Awakens, only to have to watch another actor climb into the Falcon a few months later.

Who could pull that off?

Chris Pratt? Dunno. Nathan Fillion? Mmmaybe, ten years ago. Shia LeBeouf? Oh hell no.

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beeso ducks in to say...

Posted July 10, 2015
Great directors though. the guys that did The Lego Movie (and Clone High, one of the funniest most subversive cartoons ever)

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HAVOCK21 is gonna tell you...

Posted July 10, 2015
I would have to say I am with you on this one JB, the movies are iconic and the BRAND and all its marketing, and associated releases are for mine controlled and fit. Now Ill wager that the movies divert from the books, I have no doubt and purists for whom the books are holy writ will cry foul at what the movies have done. But for those for whom the movies are the sole source of the " Star Wars Saga" taking it off in another direction..........and opening up the very real possibility of miscasting the lead replacement for Solo has implications........significant to say the least in my book.
I'm really not sure barreling down the solo road head down arse up is smart, i'm trying to see just what sort of story arc wold fit and be acceptable........blood guts, chrome and flying body parts might well cover it, maybe somewhere in the books arc is an unholy dust up between the empire and the federation or whatever that might be marketable and have enough of a story line to interest even the shallowest of us...me included. T and A and EXPLOSIONS!...yeah that would most likely do it.
Actually I'm wondering if anybody has taken an off shoot of the primary film franchise and developed the left or right side arc or whatever the hell it is you call it an made more than one film. Is this sort of thing able to sustain series? and not be relegated merely to the carton world?
As for who might play Solo, depending on how far back, Ben Afflick came to mind, then again given our affliction for all things PC maybe it should be Oprah.
I like Chris Pratt from Jurassic World, or I reckon I have it.

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HAVOCK21 would have you know...

Posted July 10, 2015
Taylor Kitsch!

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HAVOCK21 puts forth...

Posted July 10, 2015
AND ths one...LONDON HAS FALLEN...gunna be fkn EPIChttps://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CDYQqQIwAg&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DLQLEZ1oqG5Q&ei=5gWfVZz_OsPn8AXNp5_oCA&usg=AFQjCNGY7T1vYmGcLCx43krYa6zGROt11g&sig2=XA3VLpyFWLhKUgNc2CCa7A&bvm=bv.96952980,d.dGc

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Rob puts forth...

Posted July 10, 2015
When I saw it was the Lego movie guys I thought it will probably be a good film. Chris Pratt might work but it might also kill his career. Brad Pitt is probably too old but would make a good droid sidekick.

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insomniac ducks in to say...

Posted July 10, 2015

All well and good, but who is going to play Chewbacca?

pi ducks in to say...

Posted July 10, 2015
Aye... without a good Chewwie, it'd fall flat pretty fast.

Rob mutters...

Posted July 13, 2015
Probably give us Jaxxon the rabbit and his space ship the lucky rabbits foot. Fer the kids you know.

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Shifty Tourst has opinions thus...

Posted July 10, 2015

I agree. I think the biggest mistake which has happened in the Star Wars universe has been showing too much of it. The Jedi used to be this mysterious order of mystical warriors, that you really don't know anything about except in hints, passing information. Then, the new Trilogy comes out, and we know everything about them.... they have a school, tetchy librarians, a big ass temple. They must also have bookkeepers, and bureaucrats... because there are a lot of them, somebody needs to organise them. Must also have cleaners, because shiny sci-fi surfaces must be prone to marking.

So we went from Mysterious badass warrior monks, to public servants with laser swords... hmmm, sexy.

Same thing applies to Darths backstory. Before, hints and snippets about wars, fallen apprentices and betrayal. We're seeing a story built in the aftermath of another story, which we know nothing about. Its intriguing, compelling.... and we want to know more. But I think this is precisely why its great.... that we don't know the entire story and that we want to know more. Once its shown its narrative power is lost.

The other problem is what I like to call the prequel problem. The most interesting thing that has happened in the world happened in the mainstory. The characters story, only intersects with those events in that story. But now you have write an interesting story about somebody, who has no reason to intersect with the main interesting things for twenty years or so. So they need to find ways to shoehorn them into dealing with the momentous events. So prepare to see young Solo with extremely contrived reasons to run into people he'll forget meeting later on.. ferrying pre-emperor Palpatine to mysterious meetings. Smuggling Mon motha away from clone blockaded planets. Its basically what they did with droids in the new trilogy.


Shifty Tourist swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted July 10, 2015

Oops, should have read fully before rant.. I mean commenting.... I'm way off topic.

I think Chris Pratt has the right look.

Rob mumbles...

Posted July 10, 2015
Public servants with laser swords. Gold! So fkn true.

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yankeedog ducks in to say...

Posted July 10, 2015
Anthony Ingruber (the guy in the clip linked) should be cast. He's young, looks like Ford, and sounds like him. Solved.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bba_wPdLxp4

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3452021/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t30

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pi reckons...

Posted July 10, 2015
The story of how he got the Falcon from Lando would, IMO, be a pretty good story.

Sudragon ducks in to say...

Posted July 10, 2015
'Won it in a card game' IIRC, but this could expanded into a Guy Ritchie, Hustle style interstellar caper movie. A minimum of large explosions, running gun battles and playing up snappy dialogue.

Which could be quite entertaining.

Raymond Camden asserts...

Posted July 12, 2015
I have to say - I always figured the "won it in a card game" was hiding a much more interesting story.

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SZF ducks in to say...

Posted July 10, 2015
Dear Hollywood: Just. Fucking. Stop. With. The. FUCKING. Origin. Stories!

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trib mumbles...

Posted July 11, 2015
If they do it, I hope they base it on the Han Solo Adventures (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Han_Solo_Adventures). Set just before Episode IV, and not a bad read if you can find them,

yankeedog is gonna tell you...

Posted July 13, 2015
The Brian Daley books? Those were great fun.

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damian is gonna tell you...

Posted July 11, 2015
Martin Freeman?

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GhostSwirv is gonna tell you...

Posted July 12, 2015

How about someone to blow the minds of both Star Wars and Star Trek fans and cause the Space Time Continuum to implode with spacey splodey goodness?
Chris Pine as Han Solo

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Quokka swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted July 13, 2015
No. Chris Pine needs to get busy making MOAR Star Trek. Hans off the crew of the enterprise, you greedy poacher, Ghostswirv.

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GhostSwirv would have you know...

Posted July 13, 2015
I prefer the term, Gredo Bounty Hunter, if you don't hive-mind.

I'm sure CP could PO from JJs ST soundstage over 2 JJs SW soundstage with very little tribble, err, trouble - there's precedent for this arrangement.

Michael J Fox would leave the set of TV show Family Ties to go shoot Back To The Future at night, and look how that turned out!

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Therbs would have you know...

Posted July 14, 2015
Nup. Not interested in this. Solo did his thing when he helped save the universe and get the princess. Anything else is gonna be small, wasted potatoes. They should use a new character instead of piling slop onto an overextended cartoon. Just kill him and the other originals off and be done with it.

GhostSwirv would have you know...

Posted July 14, 2015

What kill them all ... you mean with like a Photon Torpedo or a Phaser blast from a starship travelling at warp speed?

Therbs mumbles...

Posted July 14, 2015
Anything. Anything at all.

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Ixion28 is gonna tell you...

Posted July 16, 2015
I think I know how I feel about it. The more details about the Star Wars universe you get, the duller it will be. One reason Star Wars is so special to so many people is that it really only consisted of six movies (and four of them are duds), and it took 38 years for them just to reach "The Force Awakens". Disney's notion of one Star Wars movie a year...well, in just a few years we'll be up to our asses in Star Wars, and we'll see how special it feels then, when you're being beaten over the head by it every time you turn around. None of the "Anthology" movies is about anything I need an entire movie about. I really don't care a damn how the Rebels stole the Death Star plans, and I care even less about young Boba Fett or young Han Solo movies. Less is more, and a sense of mystery fires the imagination. These all sound like a bunch of crossing the t's and dotting the i's continuity filler, retcon timewasters that are exactly the same sort of junk that filled the wisely-disposed-of "expanded universe".

Rob has opinions thus...

Posted July 17, 2015
The unknown parts of star wars was what made it special. In the end the tedious exposition killed the joy. I preferred making up my own what if, but, and why. Still the toys are awesome.

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Akbar's Eleven Pull off the DeathStar Heist

Posted June 28, 2015 into Movies by John Birmingham

It shouldn't work, but it totally does.

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insomniac puts forth...

Posted June 28, 2015
I know there was probably some editing involved but it would be so sweet if the audio was laid straight on top of the video and it fit perfectly.

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GhostSwirv mumbles...

Posted June 28, 2015

Goddammit! I knew Chewbacca was always voiced by Casey Affleck

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[blackops] puts forth...

Posted June 29, 2015
God damn, that's nice.

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Predator: Dark Ages

Posted May 31, 2015 into Movies by John Birmingham

This fan made film of Arnie's dreadlocked nemesis mooching around the early middle ages is totally worth pouring yourself a couple of adult beverages and throwing on to your nearest big screen.

It's a remarkable achievement, and the quality is sustained over most of the half hour's running length. I've dropped the trailer in below but you can watch the whole thing on the youtoobz here.

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NBlob would have you know...

Posted May 31, 2015
Nice drone shot @ 4:30, unfortunate wobbly-cam choice @ 7:41.
At a bigger scale, interesting how professional amateur efforts are becoming. I sometimes have a hack @ Fan Fic, I have no illusion about the quality, or lack thereof of it. But since tools of a professional level have become consumer it has re-defined what a pro needs to bring to the party.Back in the day, consumers took stills on horrible little 110 format film, while pros shot on 6x41/2 or 6x6 format, easily 5 times the image quality. Uncle Barry shot 16mm cine, while pro's shot on Betacam SP, or at least SVHS - double or more the quality.
First ProSumer Word Processing- allowed Mums to Paginate & justify like Pros. Killing print shops most lucrative jobs- wedding invites.Now high-school kids can shoot 4k on DSLRs, can cut on Adobe and export via the UTubes to the world a capacity, till recently only in the hands of moguls.I'm not saying if it's a good or bad thing, just interesting.
Must be similar to when GreyBread watched Ig & Ug master fire.

NBlob reckons...

Posted May 31, 2015
Was better when it had paragraph breaks.

John Birmingham has opinions thus...

Posted June 1, 2015
It still reads fine. I'm constantly amazed at the quality of fan made media. That Predator short looks better than a lot of professional efforts, at least at the made for TV level.It'd put most SyFy titles to shame.

Rob mutters...

Posted June 1, 2015


Back in the day when Nirvana had only one album. I used to work at a TV company. The place had 7 employees and used contractors for all the big productions. The plant in the building was worth about a Million dollars for the editing suite alone, notwithstanding the $50K to $70K for a broadcast camera by itelf. Tapped on to that was day rates of $450 for dollies and cranes. and $1000 per day for lighting trucks. Fast forward to 2014 I worked on 3 short films shot on a Red dragon in 4K. The camera is probably about $20,000 and theres some extras for lenses. We used a tiny slider for tracking shots worth 350 on ebay for a good one. The lighting needed was basically and bank of fluros and some small LED light panels. Because the cameras are so light sensitive you don't need the lighting required for 35 mm film and braodcast video. I could also buy a stedi cam rig for $400 if pushed (my toy one cost $60)

I used to beg, borrow and steal to make movies back in the 90s, especially music videos , but the issue was you just couldnt edit the footage easily.Now I can shoot on my HD Samsung (cost $130) edit on my pc (cost $700) all in HD and broadcast in on youtube. The quality is way higher than anything I did in the 90s and all it takes now is some organisation and creativity. Just don't expect to get paid.

John Birmingham puts forth...

Posted June 1, 2015
Oh yeah, pay. I forgot.

Darth Greybeard swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted June 3, 2015
NBlob's unjustified aspersions on my age aside, it's a constant joy and wonder to me how fast technology advances. Yeah, I know it has its downsides too but I love it. At the risk of when-I-were-a-ladding, you really had to grow up with wood stoves, back yard dunnies, ice boxes and upright phones with the earpiece on a cord to REALLY appreciate what we've got. When I ask my phone for the opening hours of some business it gives me a silly grin. And the other day I saw a Kickstarter for a modular phone case that added temp, humidity, sound level, barometric pressure etc sensors to your iPhone/Samsung. Tricorders! Now if you'll excuse me, I have some flint to knapp.

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Rhino asserts...

Posted June 1, 2015
Awesome.
Are chicks who look like elves and use bows a troop now? Also, the obligatory Moor with Crusaders? I bet one of them saved his life and now he must repay the debt.

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insomniac swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted June 1, 2015
Do you have any lynx as proof of your assertion?

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted June 1, 2015
I'd be lion if I said I did.

insomniac reckons...

Posted June 1, 2015
I left myself wide open for that one. It servals me right.

Anthony ducks in to say...

Posted June 1, 2015
Your comments are becoming increasingly irrelephant and you need to get otter here...

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan reckons...

Posted June 2, 2015
I don't want to be accused of being a pussy, but I feel that this competition is restricted to feline varietals, invalidating your deviation into the Lutrinae family of aquatic mammals.

Rhino is gonna tell you...

Posted June 2, 2015
Do you have any Lynx to back-up your assertions?

Rhino would have you know...

Posted June 2, 2015
Oh noes. I did punnus redundance. Shame on me.

Rhino ducks in to say...

Posted June 2, 2015
I feel like I cheetah'd myself.

Rhino reckons...

Posted June 2, 2015
Oh, God, did it again.
Can a brother get a delete button?

insomniac asserts...

Posted June 2, 2015
The Rhino appears to be a copycat

Darth Greybeard mutters...

Posted June 3, 2015
I note that Rhino offended twice. The leopard does not change his spots.

w from brisbane mumbles...

Posted June 3, 2015
Meow Greybeard! You don't pussyfoot around.

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Chaz reckons...

Posted June 1, 2015

Cool,

but the idea of the female (and Moor) with Crusaders pretty mixed up.

pi asserts...

Posted June 1, 2015
Pfft. Happened in Robin Hood.

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Aaron asserts...

Posted June 1, 2015
I happened to watch this last night. Very impressive. Have always thought it would be cool to have predator in low tech times.
Actually the predator serves as a model for what a battle hunn might looks like if they embraced tech developement?

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Murphy puts forth...

Posted June 1, 2015
Why, why, why do they always split up?

FormerlyKnownAsSimon would have you know...

Posted June 1, 2015
human evolutionary tactic. There is a gene that makes us decide to do it. Called Pbt103 or more commonly referred to as the Robert Frost gene. The ones that split up and get nobbled don't get to pass on their genes. Means that as time progresses instinctively humans make the right choice on which way to go when faced with a choice of surviving or being skinned/eaten/axe murdered/turned into mince meat.

Murphy swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted June 2, 2015
I thought it might actually be called, "The Darwin Award Gene," or, "The Dudley Dumbass Brigade Gene."

Splitting up is ALWAYS a bad idea.

Fanning out is bad too, especially if you are wearing a red shirt.

Chaz is gonna tell you...

Posted June 2, 2015

NEVER split the party.

Basic RPG error

Darth Greybeard asserts...

Posted June 3, 2015
Except in Ghostbusters: "We better split up - we can do more damage that way."

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she_jedi puts forth...

Posted June 1, 2015
Wow that was really good! I enjoyed that immensely.

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007 mini binge

Posted April 7, 2015 into Movies by John Birmingham

One of the joys of having a Stan subscription is their full collection of James Bond films. From Dr No to Skyfall. My all time fave Bond is probably still Casino Royale because you gotta love a rebooted origin story. It was one of the first things I watched on Stan. (I think Breaking Bad might have been the first).

Casino Royale still looks good, and Skyfall remains the most sucessful of all the Bonds, but I was plesantly suprised on rewatching Quantum of Solace how much I enjoyed it. Solace has some real problems, mostly attributable to the writer's strike which affected production. You can see the producers defaulting to what they know. Stupidly over-the-top stunts, forershortened narrative arcs, wild jumps over sudden plotholes, character sketching rather than development.

And yet... I enjoyed it a lot more than expected.

If you replaced the silly gymnastic fight on the scaffolding at the start of the film (after the attempt on M's life), and substituted a short, brutal but realistic fight, possibly with M's life held immediately in the balance, you'd go a long way towards getting Solace off to a much better start. A few other cuts and tweaks here and there, all to advance the story and flesh out the characters of the supporting players, and you'd have a film that could hold its head high next to its modern siblings.

(Example, when Bond hires the plane and explains the guy will sell them out, you need to see they were in the air for an hour or so before the Bolivian airforce – all two aircraft, the Aermacchi turboprop and the helicopter – attacked them.)

The Quantum/Spectre story arc is a great one. The final scene in Solace, where Bond tracks the Spectre agent who lured Vespa into a honey trap, was every bit as good as the black and white prologue to Casino Royale. It felt like the producers remembered they were making a spy drama, not a special effects and stunt driven action film.

I'll probably watch all three again before Spectre comes out at the end of the year.

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Bondiboy66 puts forth...

Posted April 7, 2015
Still haven't seen Solace and Skyfall....when Ch 7 was showing a weekly Bond flick recently, young Thomas and I watched them religiously - he definitely developed a taste for the classics, and shared my taste for Sean Connery Bond over the others. Have yet to show him the Daniel Craig ones though...

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Chaz asserts...

Posted April 7, 2015

Didn't really enjoy QofS when I saw it at the cinemaxthingy. CR still had a real hold on my imagination I suppose.

But watching it as part of a Bond fest of all three Craig movies made me appreciate it more.

Intend to watch all three again before I go to watch Spectre.

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HAVOCK21 would have you know...

Posted April 7, 2015
it really does explain f kn lot about you lot about what you lot have not watched but fkn should have watched.

ITS FKN WICKED to der 10 plus. I really loved the bit where he tosses him a tin of oil in the middle of fkn bum fk nowhere! and ffsakes.....DONT GET MESTARTED ON VESPA!....HAWT....DAM HAWT.

death. blood chaos and fkn destruction and whats not to like about driving a front end loader halfway across a construction site and into the concrete fkn slab!

The plan chase nd shoot'em up was bruce willis esq n really shitted me, the producers should have had the knees fkn cut off and the writters heads should be fkn mounted somewhere for that...poxy as!

But the lst three have been seriously fkn good

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damian mumbles...

Posted April 7, 2015
Got 6 months free Netflix with new phone. Currently watching a thing about taking the master sommelier exam.

John Birmingham puts forth...

Posted April 8, 2015
Why must you mock us?

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Murphy_of_Missouri reckons...

Posted April 8, 2015
I keep forgetting that there have been three Daniel Craig/James Bond movies and not two.
Quantum of Solace, I am sure, is why.
Respects,
Murph
On the Outer Marches

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beeso mumbles...

Posted April 8, 2015
Bourne ruined Bond for me.

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GhostSwirv would have you know...

Posted April 8, 2015

After the triumphant arrival of Daniel Craig as Bond, James Bond in Casino Royale I too was at first underwhelmed by the subsequent offering of QoS.

But further binge viewings of Bond, courtesy of a b'day gift of the Blu-Ray 50 year Anniversary Box Set has, like you JB, made me reconsider QoS in a more favourable light.

Given that it was being made in the midst of a writer's strike and that EON didn't have the rights to utilise SPECTRE or Blofeld and so had to turn QUANTUM into the ultra-secret bad guys its a pleasant surprise that more of it works than not.

When I first watched QoS I didn't like the Opera sequence but on subsequent viewing I find its one of the best parts of the film for me - operatic extras mowed down by faceless govt. apparachicks while their Hidden Masters watched from the crowded bleaches is almost too clever for a Bond tale.

I agree also JB that the early flight and fight sequnce needed more M in it to heighten the tension and raise the stakes. I never liked the fact the producers decided to discard the Gun Barrel opening and go straight to a rather benign Helicopter over water tracking shot to begin the story.

In another blogosphere, before I was aware of the waft of the Cheeseburghergothic, I wrote a little early fanfic of how I would have opened QoS - it goes something like this ...

MGM Lion roars

FADE to BLACK

Gun Barrel Sequence with Daniel Craig

He SHOOTS, SCREEN BLEEDS RED

SMASH CUT TO:

INT: FRONT SEAT ALPHA ROMEO - DAY

GUNMAN'S WHITE SHIRT blooms RED.

CUT TO:

EXT: SHATTERED WINDSCREEN ASTON MARTIN - DAY

BOND's gun thrust through the shattered glass, unblinking as he empties the clip into the windscreen of the ALFA.

The ASTON MARTIN nose to nose with ALPHA ROMEO races backwards down the lake shore road then spins about and dashes into a TUNNELL.


John Birmingham reckons...

Posted April 8, 2015
Nice

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Barnesm mumbles...

Posted April 8, 2015
As a science fan calling a film the Quantum of Solace had me at Quantum. I pondered by the use of Quantum, did it refer to a significant change in the state of solace or the compassion or comfort provided in a time of distress? Did it mean quantum in a sense of the smallest amount possible? surely the writers would have chosen"'the Planck's Constant of Solace". Solace - that word conveys so much, compassion but it is compassion in a time of crisis and overwhelming loss. Is the title a reflection that in the face of such overwhelming loss no matter how much care or concern we offer it is effectively nothing, no matter how great.
This would truly be a fundamental difference in the state of concern, indeed a 'quantum of solace'. My only regret is that the world portrayed did seem to be despaired enough to justify the title.

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GhostSwirv ducks in to say...

Posted April 8, 2015

Quantum of Solace is one of five short Bond stories written by Fleming, published under the collective title of For Your Eyes Only, released a year after Goldfinger.

The other three are Risico, about a Russian spy-ring in New York, The Hildebrand Rarity - about a fish, and From a View To A Kill - motorcycle assassins.

Skyfall is a film title that doesn't appear in any of Fleming's texts - although to be fair neither does GoldenEye, but that is the name of his estate in Jamaica where he wrote his novels.

That just leaves Risico and Hildebrand as the last surviving Bond titles - hard to see how either of them could be used in a Bond adventure.

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NBlob is gonna tell you...

Posted April 9, 2015

Pfft. Bond.

Nothin' to see here. Apart from Halle Berry & the tall blonde cellist.

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Surtac puts forth...

Posted April 9, 2015
I have to agree with JB. QoS doesn't work well as a standalone film, but as a bridge between CR and Skyfall I think it works fine. I've watched that trilogy a couple times recently and I'm sure I'll do so again before Spectre arrives.

So it goes.

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pto puts forth...

Posted April 9, 2015
For me it's always been the other way around. I liked Casino Royale but still can't quite understand the hype around it. It seems like that poker game takes up half the movie. I liked Skyfall as well but there just are way too many plot holes that are peppered over with action sequences. But QoS I loved right away and still do. Yes it does have problems, but it's by far my favourite of the three Craig movies and I can't even really explain why.

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Ixion28 mumbles...

Posted July 16, 2015
The rather extreme negative reaction to QoS still seems bizarre to me. The film's biggest crime, I think, was that it wasn't as good as "Casino Royale", which was easily the best Bond film since "On Her Majesty's Secret Service", and maybe since "Goldfinger." But the constant disrespect the movie receives is way out of proportion to it's flaws. The biggest problem the film has for me is that it isn't really it's own movie, but a sort of not-entirely-necessary epilogue to "Casino Royale." It begins ten minutes after the end of CR, and it ends without any resolution of most of the plot threads, which are still continuing into the upcoming "SPECTRE". And it's true that the action scenes are a little too much in a by-the-book "chaos cinema" style. But it's still better than everything Roger Moore ever did.

John Birmingham reckons...

Posted July 16, 2015
I think you nailed it with the epilogue thing. It felt unnecessary.

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Furious 7 Vs Fury Road

Posted April 1, 2015 into Movies by John Birmingham

It's weird innit, that the SF end of world fantasy of Mad Max looks somehow more realistic than the ostenisbly 'real world' narrative of Furious 7.

Whereas this shit is just unbelievable.

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Rob puts forth...

Posted April 1, 2015

Mad Max looks like a sequel to the Cars that Ate Paris. Which is totally fkn awesome.

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Bondiboy66 ducks in to say...

Posted April 1, 2015
I've seen exactly zero Fast and Furious movies to date...this is unlikely to change anytime soon. Mad Max though - can hardly wait!

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Rhino asserts...

Posted April 1, 2015
Mad Max!!!

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nick ducks in to say...

Posted April 1, 2015
1 film has lord humongous or his suitably large nutter relation.1 film has a chase involving a large truck with drums and a lunatic playing lead guitar complete with flamethrower.
the other has a few set piece stunts....
mad max all the way

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Murphy swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted April 1, 2015
THE FILM of Commo Platoon, HHB 1-5 Field Artillery, aka "Hamilton's Own," was none other than The Road Warrior. We watched that VHS tape, lifted from Blockbuster (come find us now, fuckers) for our five month deployment.

"Is that how you want to live your life, Max? One day, blurrin' into anothah?"

You could sum up that war with that line.

Totally looking forward to the new Max almost as much as the next Avengers.
Respects,
Murph
On the Outer Marches of, "One day, blurrin' into anothah."

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pi asserts...

Posted April 1, 2015
I love how toecutter is the same actor as the one in the original road warrior movie.

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HAVOCK21 has opinions thus...

Posted April 1, 2015
screw mad max. STRATHAM...aka..FKN HAVOCK and the rest of Furyious!.....FKN ROCK!

Peter in the bleaches asserts...

Posted April 1, 2015
Havock, Mad Max = 7, F&F = 1 (at this point), To misquote: 2 movies enter, 1 movie leaves. As always Max Rockatansky leaves

HAVOCK21 mumbles...

Posted April 2, 2015
OI!

Thats a fkn VERY VERY FKN QUESTIONABLE FKN 7 I Might fkn add!

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Chaz ducks in to say...

Posted April 2, 2015
so, so looking forward to Fury Road

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GhostSwirv asserts...

Posted April 2, 2015

Just in case we needed any reminder of the plot lines for FnF The Verge provides the ultimate spoilers.
http://youtu.be/fiTSOpAlI60

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w from brisbane reckons...

Posted April 2, 2015
Fury Road looks a lot more '3. Beyond Thunderdome' than '2. Road Warrior', which, for me, is not a very good thing.

HAVOCK21 would have you know...

Posted April 3, 2015
yeah....dare I say it. Its been fkn HOLLYWOODISED to the fkn wazooooo!

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Sudragon mutters...

Posted April 2, 2015
Potential gimmick for movies such as MM:FR and F&F:7.... seatbelts on the cinema seats?

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Drew-mo puts forth...

Posted April 2, 2015

<falsetto>
"I see a little Interceptor and a Max;
scaramouche, scaramouche, let me be a fanboy now......

NBlob has opinions thus...

Posted April 3, 2015


Firestorm & fighting


Very very frightening Meee

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Action movie problems

Posted February 12, 2015 into Movies by John Birmingham

This analysis of what's wring with modern action movies is also a brilliant primer on how to write SPLODEY novels. I've bookmarked it and watched it twice already. Runs just over twenty minutes so you'll need to pour yourself a drink to enjoy it properly.

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insomniac is gonna tell you...

Posted February 12, 2015
I guess it helps you "squeeze" the most out of one's writing

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TheWah swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted February 12, 2015
District 9 is a great action/sci-fi because it follows these points

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MickH puts forth...

Posted February 12, 2015
Wow! that was really good. I can see why you are taking notes.Who is the Stuckmann guy anyway? He really knows his stuff

John Birmingham would have you know...

Posted February 12, 2015
Yeah, it's good, innit. I could spin a whole writing class up out of this video.

Bunyip reckons...

Posted February 12, 2015
What Mick said. A tasty portion of thinky. Ta muchly.

Blarkon is gonna tell you...

Posted February 15, 2015
Don't spin up a writing class. Write a short ebook on it. Put a farking splodey cover on it. Make buckets of cash. Buy a second gold plated hovercraft.
We all know that books about writing books sell like a bastard because, as one burger once delicately suggested, there are more bastards wanting to write books than there are bastards wanting to read them.

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan is gonna tell you...

Posted February 15, 2015
"there are more bastards wanting to write books than there are bastards wanting to read them."

Who was the cynical jackanape who said that?

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Paul_Nicholas_Boylan has opinions thus...

Posted February 13, 2015
It proves me with a whole new appreciation for Water World.

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Darth Greybeard reckons...

Posted February 13, 2015
So good I watched his Horror Movie piece too. Much of what he said made me think of Joseph Campbell's Hero with a Thousand Faces and the nature of the hero and the hero's journey. Michael Scott Rohan put a classic hero "Alf" in his Winter of the World trilogy. The whole 'start as a poor and despised orphan' bit but with some interesting, even unique twists which I won't mention for those who haven't read his stuff. You couldn't film it but it ticks all the boxes for an action movie.
Also thought Stuckmann was spot on with why Indiana Jones 4 was so crappy, even though he didn't mention Shia LaBeouf.

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Barnesm puts forth...

Posted February 13, 2015
I loved how the cadence of his speech match some of the sequences of the films he was highlighting, example his description of the fluidity of the final fight sequence in the subway of The Matrix .

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GhostSwirv mutters...

Posted February 13, 2015

Great find JB, Stuckmann is spot on with his analysis, interesting how he left out any mention of 'Bayhem', a director who has been criticised for his wild editing and incoherent action sequences.

What's also interesting is the way he references JB on his Hero List er James Bond I mean - Daniel Craig as Bond, bloodied, defenceless and vulnerable. No mention of Connery or Moore's characterisations, although early Sean Bond had him injured and pushing through pain to get the job done.

With Rog you never really thought he was getting a hair outta place.

One of the key strengths with Indiana Jones is that he gets hurt in the pursuit of his goal, we see and share his pain, unlike some Bond episodes whereby we're watching from afar.

A few years back the interwebs was atingle with a release of Transcripts of story conversations between George Lucas, Steven Spielberg and Lawrence Kasdan about the writing of Raiders, if you haven't read I highly recommend a sqizz.
Click here to download a PDF of the transcript.

I'm definitely inflicting Stuckmann's clip on my classes, the considered, thoughtful approach to his analysis makes for a refreshing change from the usual 'ShakeyCamness' of the Internet as a whole.

GhostSwirv over and out to prepare for the last lesson of the week, I wonder what Stuckmann has to say about Shakespeare?

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Paul_Nicholas_Boylan asserts...

Posted February 14, 2015
Based on a comment this guy made about John Wick I rented it and am watching it. I'm really enjoying it - and it seems to follow Stuckman's formula for a decent action film.

Better yet, Reeves is actually doing an unexpectedly good job acting. Very few terrible choices so far.

Based on what I've seen thus far, I recommend this film.

w from brisbane mutters...

Posted February 14, 2015
PNB, this is a dumb question, but when you say you rented the movie, did you actually go to a bricks and mortar store and rent the DVD? Just about all our DVD stores in Brisbane have closed down and, as I don't torrent, I am puzzled how people view a specific movie that they might want to watch. How do the Burgers do it?

Barnesm would have you know...

Posted February 14, 2015
I either download from Foxtel or posted in the mail using Quickflic. Though they also provide on demand to your computer. Currently working through Neon Genesis Evangelion watching the episodes on Friday night with my son. So if you take up Quickflic I'd appreciae you not adding to your que until we finish watching it

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan asserts...

Posted February 15, 2015
W:

Okay, you got me - I make it all up. Like Brian Williams. I am desperate for approval. I've been fabricating stuff here for years, but no one has called me on my bullshit. Except that one time when I summarized Gone With the Wind as a touching movie about a boy who suffered a childhood kiting mishap that haunted him for the rest of his life, spurring him on to become a billionaire but also leaving him with the unquenchable desire to sexually abuse 21 year old college seniors who write for the student newspaper, possibly because the protagonist, Rhett, blamed the loss of his kite on his mother, Scarlett, who, at the time of Rhett's kiting mishap, was a 21 year old college senior who wrote for the University of Alabama student newspaper. However, both Barnesm and Nblob were quick to point out that Gone With the Wind was about the American civil war.

But that was the only time I got caught in my web of lies. Until now.

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Madmaximus would have you know...

Posted February 14, 2015
Thanks JB, this fellow just articulated so well everything I love about a good action movie. I like that he singled out Cruise who despite his crazy personal life remains a very committed action movie star. Edge of Tomorrow was one of the best movies of last year, and reminds me I need to get around to seeing Oblivion.

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan mumbles...

Posted February 15, 2015
Cruise's personal life is a wreck, but he is a good actor who makes good movies. I liked Oblivion very much and loved Edge of Tomorrow - both of which follow Stuckmann's recommendations. And the nightclub scene in Collateral was one of the best things I've ever seen in any action film.

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