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iO9 loves Guardians of the Galaxy

Posted August 4, 2014 into Movies by John Birmingham

Gotta say I've been looking forward to this flick in a big way. The trailers have been tempting and now the crits are in... and they seem pretty much in agreement that this is one of the stand outs of the year.

My fave so far is this from iO9 which is a gloriously spoiler free celebration of the latest Marvel franchise.

So yeah, Guardians of the Galaxy is dripping with nostalgia, for space opera and Baby Boomer pop music, and for funny action movies. For stories about friends having an adventure together, all of that.

The word "nostalgia," of course, means "pain." Specifically, the pain of yearning for a lost home. (In the same way that "neuralgia" is "nerve pain.")

And there's definitely an undercurrent of sadness and hurt going through this, which the "Awesome Mix" pop soundtrack helps to bring to the surface. But the wounded undertone also shows up in keenly observed moments where Rocket or Drax reveals a hidden misery. Of the five misfits, Groot is the only one who's not deeply damaged, and his friendliness helps throw the scars of his comrades into relief.

That undertone of sadness does a lot to help the film achieve a consistent tone, with all the weird elements in the mix. (You could write a whole essay on the importance of "undertone" to "tone," actually.)

Part of what Guardians does that's clever is throw you in the deep end pretty much from the beginning — Peter Quill is the only Earthling in the film, and he's grown up in space, so he's totally familiar with spaceports, blasters and alien sex. Peter Quill is already Star-Lord pretty much at the start of the movie, and he knows his way around.

This mirrors our own familiarity with these kinds of stories (everybody's at least seen Star Wars), and flies in the face of conventional wisdom that space-opera needs to keep at least one foot on the ground at all times. But it also allows the movie to speak directly to our yearning for classic adventure stories, by playing with the familiar elements without any lengthy preamble.

And in all those shots where Peter Quill's ship, the Milano, is flying through some holy-shit-cosmic vistas, to the accompaniment of some 1960s or 1970s anthem, I feel like this film is doing something pretty complicated. We're up to our neck in the spacey wonder, but the music is tethering us to Earth and to Peter Quill's emotional backstory — and also, reminding us that we've seen this shit before in classic space operas. Instead of holding your hand, writer-director James Gunn gives you syncopated hand-claps. And some cowbell.

Totes worth a read. And a watch.

25 Responses to ‘iO9 loves Guardians of the Galaxy’

Dino not to be confused with puts forth...

Posted August 4, 2014
Yeah but no JB.
I don't know this work.
Saw the trailer.
There's this little kid who talks to marmets or mamosets.
Makes me cry.
Big Mistake.
f'air'fuucks is my enemy now.
One year?
Two or three?
May they boil in the excrement of Gina and 'Perpetyual' and Andrew Bolt.
High Class.
As for the computer shit.
"Ladies, you aint seen nothin yet"

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TheWah mumbles...

Posted August 4, 2014
That is a rather sombre and serious trailer for what is actually a very fun, rollicking space adventure

The first trailer is still the best..

It's a fun movie

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Nocturnalist mutters...

Posted August 4, 2014
Saw this with the GF last night and we both loved it. It packed out the cinema and then had the whole audience laughing and cheering; we both had big dumb grins on our faces for ages afterwards. Wonderful time, well worth taking in on the big screen.

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Barnesm reckons...

Posted August 5, 2014

There has been a great deal of positve for this film. Rotton Tomatos giving it big thumbs up. I am off this friday to see it with the_weapon. The best quip I have seen regarding the film is from Aaron Diaz author of The Dresden Codax webcomix. 'Guardians of the galaxy' is the first Star Wars film since 1983.


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insomniac mumbles...

Posted August 5, 2014
Even the ultimate antiscifi being, ms insomniac, mentioned that it might be fun, although after the "August: Osage County" incident it's unlikely that we will venture to the moving pictures any time soon.

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Paul_Nicholas_Boylan puts forth...

Posted August 5, 2014
I really enjoyed this film - and my wife didn't fall asleep during any of it.

Full theatre. Applause at the end. A good experience.

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Lobes mutters...

Posted August 5, 2014
I've heard nothing but good reports on this movie but still dont think I can get my suspension of disbelief past a space raccoon.

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan is gonna tell you...

Posted August 6, 2014
I went into this with the same mindset - but worse because I've read the comics, and the character was awful, a play on "rocky raccoon" and an attempt to play to the youth movement.

Dumb, dumber and dumberer.

Those responsible for this film fixed all that.


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axle60610 swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted August 5, 2014
nice
but the new Nolan movie Interstellar looks more like the tear jerking save the world kind.. not a bad trailer..
http://www.interstellar-movie.com/
some reasonable actors as well..

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ShaneAlpha swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted August 5, 2014
Went to Guardians in 2 D last week. Will be going to see the 3 D this weekend.

A great movie, deeply reminded me of seeing Star Wars in '77 as a primary school kid. Loved the soundtrack so much I came home and purchased "Awesome Mix Tape #1" from the iTunes and have been rocking it in my car all week.

The post credits scene will make only the comic book nerds laugh. younger ones will probably ask "who the f**k is that?"

It's serious, fun, colourful space awesome, with a side dish of even more awesome.

Barnesm ducks in to say...

Posted August 5, 2014
"who the f**k is that?" does is rhyme with 'something to pluck'?

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan ducks in to say...

Posted August 6, 2014
It sure as fuck does.

I felt it was the perfect ending. It poked fun at the big marvel post credits bonus scene previewing future movies.

Is it Avengers 2?

Could it be (be still my beating heart) Guardians 2??

No. It was Howard the Duck drinking martinis with the Collector - both trapped in a world they never made.

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damian is gonna tell you...

Posted August 5, 2014
Yeah it looks awesome and all that. But what's with the ADHD in the trailer? It's all friggin' half second jump cuts. Maybe I'm getting old, but I find it loud and confusing.

Now I want to know how to keep those darn kids off my lawn

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w from brisbane has opinions thus...

Posted August 5, 2014
I haven't seen the film. or watched the trailer. But looking at the still, that Green Skinned Space Babe is such a classic TV trope.

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan mutters...

Posted August 6, 2014
Yes, but unlike the typical green skinned space babe, this one refuses to succumb to the hero's pelvic sorcery.

Darth Greybeard asserts...

Posted August 6, 2014
"pelvic sorcery"? You have a way with words Paul. I do not say that it is a good way, but it is a way.

w from brisbane has opinions thus...

Posted August 6, 2014
Though, in the classic form of the green skinned space babe, it is she who is the pelvic sorcerer.

The green skinned space babe stereotype is such a simple solution to a problem.

You've got a hot chick, but she is to play an alien.

Problem: she needs to look like an alien, but she's still got to be hot. You don't want to ugly up the face, or interfere with the clear view of her....umm....errr....assets.
Solution: Let's just paint her green and stick her in a really tight dress.
Brilliant! And if you've got something that works, why change the formula?

Though, sometimes you do see the blue variation.

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan reckons...

Posted August 6, 2014
Actually, that is my wife's only criticism:
"Where was she getting all those hot outfits?"

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan is gonna tell you...

Posted August 6, 2014
Greybeard - not my words: hers. Go see the film.

I do have a way with words (I am the bloke who coined the phrase "orgasmic hoodlum sundae") but I wish I could write as well as the team that wrote the screenplay for GotG.

Dino not to be confused with has opinions thus...

Posted August 6, 2014
Have Pelvis.
Need Work.
Or incantations...

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Rhino has opinions thus...

Posted August 8, 2014
This movie is Rhino Approved.

Watched it in 3D at a movie tavern - so got to drink liter mugs of beer and eat "Irish" nachos (chips with melted cheddar topped with bacon and Bleu cheese. Of course, being a theatre they marketed them as Boondock Saints Nachos).

That was just about movie nirvana. The only thing missing was a cigar.

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan reckons...

Posted August 8, 2014
It is comments like this that make the Rhino one of the few people on this mudball I envy.

And hate, just a little bit. Fuck you for making my life feel pedestrian in comparison.

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Trashman asserts...

Posted August 9, 2014
Saw it last weekend in 3D. Fab!
Great effects, great action and lots of laughs.

Hope it does as well as The Avengers.

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Dino not to be confused with ducks in to say...

Posted August 11, 2014
Watched it Yesterday.
Dumb Cunt covered in incomplete tatts drank an oversized Coca cola and 44gallon drum of 'popcorn'.
Swore at the end when Howard the Duck was manifest.
"GET FUCKED".
Loud enough for all the little kids to hear.
I let him go.
The hooked nosed know it all.
Chickenshit Hoyts Proxy.
Sucked a Camels dick later.
That's what they do...

Dino not to be confused with asserts...

Posted August 11, 2014
Oh I give it a seven.
Four for accuracy and three for music.

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Prelude to Axanar

Posted August 1, 2014 into Movies by John Birmingham

I ran the trailer for this a while ago and peeps seemed to like it. Now there's a 21 min feature at Kickstarter which is well worth a look.

Can't embed it here, sorry, but you can follow the link.

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Blarkon is gonna tell you...

Posted August 1, 2014
The Enterprise was built at Earth - in the original series and in the Abrams reboot. Not bloody Axanar.

Structure owes a lot to Ken Burns.

Barnesm puts forth...

Posted August 1, 2014
I didn't think they we specifically saying the Enterprise was built at Axanar, just that was were the new Heavy Cruiser, which looks a lot like the Constitution Class of which the Enterprise was one. They could build the USS Constitution at Axanar and the Enterprise subsequently built at Earth.

w from brisbane puts forth...

Posted August 1, 2014
Wikipedia says
But according to The Making of Star Trek "the Enterprise-class starships have been in existence for about forty years" at the time of the original series. The ship's components were built at the Starfleet Division of the San Francisco Navy Yards and assembled in orbit.

So, they could perhaps justify that bit.

Murphy_of_Missouri asserts...

Posted August 2, 2014
To retcon is not the worst thing in the world though the registry clearly shows NCC-1701. If they followed convention then what we should see is NX-1700 of the U.S.S. Constitution. Once it went into service that would change to NCC-1700 followed on by others.

I think I'd tweak that bit accordingly in the film.
Further, just as the Klingons had three shipyards working on the D-7s, the Federation could have had multiple sites working on the ship as well.

Overall, out of all of the fan based productions, I like this one the best.

Respects,
Murph
On the Outer Marches

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Barnesm puts forth...

Posted August 1, 2014
all nerdisms aside I think Prelude to Ananar looks brilliant. I am going to throw some cash their way at the next round of kickstarter for the project.

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Rhino reckons...

Posted August 2, 2014
Watched that yesterday ... someone, (maybe Murph?), had it linked on FB.

The hero captain guy seems a bit mild mannered though....

Murphy_of_Missouri mumbles...

Posted August 2, 2014
Mild mannered folks are always the most dangerous.

I linked the twenty minute version this afternoon so I doubt it was me.

Respects,
Murph
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Paul_Nicholas_Boylan ducks in to say...

Posted August 2, 2014
How fucking cool was that?

This is what I've been going on about for years: the advent of independent, self financed media productions that just make my life better and better.

Blarkon mumbles...

Posted August 2, 2014
Except that no one is *earning* money doing this. It's high-tech amateur theatre.

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan mumbles...

Posted August 3, 2014
I don't see how that is a valid critique. It may be high-tech amateur theatre, but it is really, really good high-tech amateur theatre impossible until very recently.

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MickH swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted August 2, 2014
That was brilliant!
I have long lamented the fact that there has never been a Star Trek movie that shows off the military 'fleet' style of conflict in any detail.
This looks like it.
I'm in.

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Darth Greybeard is gonna tell you...

Posted August 2, 2014
Yep, I'm in too. Good to see Richard Hatch as a Klingon btw.

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AuntyLou would have you know...

Posted August 2, 2014
Love, love, love it! And I love the new smart tele that lets me watch it in comfort!! Just yell at me if I am wrong, but...the new class of battleship was built in TIME for the the battle of Axanar...not at AT Axanar.
Axanar was chosen for its position not for proximity to the new ships. Or I got it all wrong. Nothing new in that. Sorry Blarkon. Love it anyway. Just wish my hubby liked the 'splody goodness like me :)

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Darth Greybeard is gonna tell you...

Posted August 3, 2014
A bit OT but a fine example of a fan tribute to another TV classic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eak26ohx1Y8

Japanese Doctor Who vs Dalekor (you fiend!) and his Cyber-ninjas. Lucky the Doctor had his Sonic Screw Sword.

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Trashman ducks in to say...

Posted August 3, 2014
Extremely cool looking. Donation made.

This is the first time I've backed a Kickstarter, but after seeing what the Veronica Mars Kickstarter achieved - I think it's definitely worth it.

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Murphy_of_Missouri would have you know...

Posted August 4, 2014
Anyone notice who the listed narrator was at the start?

Familiar name to Trekkies.

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Murph
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Trashman asserts...

Posted August 4, 2014
Nope - had a look & couldn't see it. Who was it?

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan puts forth...

Posted August 4, 2014
I recognized it immediately - Rula Lenska, star of stage and screen.

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Murphy mumbles...

Posted August 5, 2014
Federation Historian John Gil.

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Murph
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Trashman swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted August 6, 2014
Nice. Somebody put some serious thought into this!

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Therbs ducks in to say...

Posted August 5, 2014

Could they flog copies on iTunes/Amazon/website or on dvd? I'd be willing to buy dvd's.

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Prelude to Axanar

Posted July 2, 2014 into Movies by John Birmingham

There might never be another official Star Trek series, despite recent rumours, but it's beginning to seem as though that won't matter; there's so much indie fan talent doing their own thing with Roddenberry's story world. No idea how that works with intellectual property law, but it does seem to work.

Having enjoyed Star Trek Continues Ep 3, I was stoked to find this pop up in my news aggregators a while back. A feature-length kickstarter about the Klingon-Federation war that predates ST-TOS.

The production values are great. I hope they can build from this teaser into a full length movie.

But now, back to the deadline.

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Blarkon mutters...

Posted July 2, 2014
The rule is that no one is to make money off the production.

John Birmingham has opinions thus...

Posted July 2, 2014
Thought so, but how is that even possible. Look at the production values. It costs money to make. Otherwise they wouldn't be kickstarting it.

Bangar ducks in to say...

Posted July 2, 2014
It'd be making profit, though a Ferengi would figure out how ;)

Blarkon reckons...

Posted July 2, 2014
The assumptions around that general permission were those that existed prior to the broadcast nature of internet video. When Roddenberry was thinking about it, it was badly dubbed VHS cassettes being handed between fans. As long as no one was making a profit off those cassettes, no one seemed to care.

(Roddenberry gave this sort of general permission even though he created, but did not own, Star Trek)

Today those films can be seen by millions. As long as the don't tick the box where they get revenue ... though I suspect that given that Google still gets revenue ... that the new realities of mass distribution will eventually trigger a recalibration on the part of the owners of these properties.

I guess anyone who does this sort of thing has to do it with the knowledge that should the owners ask for it to be taken down, that they don't have a leg to stand on legally.

The real pity is that you have all these creative and talented people who aren't creating their own new universe and stories, but are instead farting about in the Star Trek universe making high quality fan fiction.

John Birmingham ducks in to say...

Posted July 2, 2014
The other pity is the market which exists for this farting around, not being serviced by the mainstream production houses.

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan mutters...

Posted July 3, 2014
Respectfully disagree. This farting around provides the experience needed to transition into mini production houses that will challenge the mainstream production houses - even if it is similar to the death of a thousand cuts. These mini production companies won't produce commercial Trek material, but their advent will result in more general content created by people who know what they are doing. There will always be mega productions. What I want is more inspired, smart, independent stuff.

Blarkon reckons...

Posted July 4, 2014
There are more people who support a middle class (or better) lifestyle as Astronauts than there are people making a middle class lifestyle creating content for YouTube. That should give you an idea of the future of independent production.

You're either insanely successful, or you are faffing about forever in someone's garage. The small independent productions that existed even a few years ago are disappearing. Those are the ones that are necessary to support those "small production houses".

Spielberg talked a bit about it in some of the interviews he gave around Lincoln - that even he had trouble getting funding for a small production that wasn't going to cost much.

I think it was someone talking with Kevin Smith about his film Clerks, which Smith made on a shoestring. This person mentioned that for more than a decade, the average person has had access to high quality production movie making and editing equipment. And even though access to the means of production have been "democratized" - there has been very few breakout high quality independent films. The cheap to make "Clerks" type films have almost disappeared.

(it doesn't help that something like Clerks could be discovered at the video store - whereas today something is likely to be discovered on torrent - which doesn't lead to the original creators getting paid)

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Therbs has opinions thus...

Posted July 2, 2014
That looks the goods. Hope they get it done.

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John Birmingham asserts...

Posted July 2, 2014
Nice work, Dino. Keeping it simple. Now, concentrate and maintain.

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John Birmingham mumbles...

Posted July 3, 2014
I'm talking about TV not film

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w from brisbane mumbles...

Posted July 3, 2014
The Klingon Kharn is played by Richard Hatch from the original Battlestar Gallatica.
Captain Sonya Alexander is played by Kate Vernon who was Ellen Tigh in the second Battlestar Gallatica.
So there is a lot of space travel experience on the flight decks.

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pi is gonna tell you...

Posted July 3, 2014
OT, but some admin needs to take a wee look into the solar project forum. spamalam.

insomniac ducks in to say...

Posted July 3, 2014
I've just lost thousands of dollars and seen things no one should see

Therbs mumbles...

Posted July 3, 2014
Spam shields need more powaaahhh!

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Lulu has opinions thus...

Posted July 3, 2014
I cannae hold her any longer captain the spam shield is gonna blow!

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan puts forth...

Posted July 4, 2014
The spam shields held!

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Murphy_of_Missouri ducks in to say...

Posted July 4, 2014
I gotta say this trailer looks pretty good. I saw it about a month or so ago. These fan based, Kickstarter funded efforts are getting better with each cycle.

Respects,
Murph
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BrianC asserts...

Posted July 10, 2014
First of yeah im back.

Secondly. fuck JJ Abrahams. He ruined Trek in the second film he did. Its not trek any more its trek wars.

Thirdly. More of this type of thing. Simply smashing. Backed.

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Hope Hope puts forth...

Posted September 2, 2014
Remember, it's not too late to donate to Star Trek Axanar feature film via Paypal - You'll receive the same great perks for your donation level as were offered in the feature flim's Kickstarter - it's not too late!!! donate@StarTrekAxanar.com - Qapla'!! :)

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Movies from another time

Posted May 31, 2014 into Movies by John Birmingham

I dips me lid to Beeso for this link to a kind of brilliant bit of work reimagining movie posters from alternative time lines.

And the must see action blockbuster that Leonard Nimoy rode to crossover big screen stardom when he escaped the gravity well of Star Trek.

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MickH has opinions thus...

Posted June 1, 2014
Dino
Mate
What the FUCK are you on about?
Do you have some sort of agenda here or are you just fucking nuts?
I suspect the later....

Dino not to be confused with has opinions thus...

Posted June 1, 2014
MickH,
There was a comment here that was deleted where 'where' was corrected to 'we're'.
It's from Pardners the movie with Dean and Jerry.
The theme song. 'You and me, we're gonna be Pardners, you and me we're gonna be Pals...etc".
Maybe you haven't seen it. It was the Obvious comment, albiet somewhat cryptic for the youngsters, to the Post.
But to answer your question- yes I am fucking nuts, I believe in Science- hence I am fucking nuts.

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Dirk has opinions thus...

Posted May 31, 2014
I can see this in an upcoming Axis of Time my friend :).
The 1959 release of Skyfall perhaps starring Sean Connery? :D

John Birmingham ducks in to say...

Posted May 31, 2014
Fkn brilliant idea!

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yankeedog swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted June 1, 2014
Way cool! Some fine work there.

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Rob swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted June 1, 2014
that fifth element poster actually makes me want to see the fifth element.

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Abe Frellman reckons...

Posted June 1, 2014
Danny Bonaduce as John Connor... INSPIRED.

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pi swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted June 1, 2014
That's gold. Love The Big Lebowski.

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John Birmingham mutters...

Posted June 1, 2014
Permission denied.

MickH reckons...

Posted June 1, 2014
I agree with JB, you'd hurt yourself with it

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ShaneAlpha mutters...

Posted June 1, 2014
They missed the most obvious one
Dredd 3D
Staring Clint Eastwood.

pi mutters...

Posted June 1, 2014
Charles Bronson?

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MickH ducks in to say...

Posted June 1, 2014
Seriously?
Most of those would suck. big time.

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Anthony has opinions thus...

Posted June 1, 2014
The Hobbit starring Mickey Rooney.

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Legless mumbles...

Posted June 2, 2014
Sorry about the thread-jack Mr B - but could you give me your email address? Use a throwaway account if needed. I've some bleeding-edge IT stuff I'd like you to know about
Cheers

John Birmingham mutters...

Posted June 2, 2014
You on twitter, Legless?

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Cap'n America

Posted April 7, 2014 into Movies by John Birmingham

I usually come out of a Marvel film surprised at how much it impressed me. Not at how much I enjoyed myself, which is a given, but rather how much more than a comic-book-come-to-life the movie seemed to be. Perhaps that’s just because I haven’t read enough comic books recently.

The rust and corrosion eating away at Iron Man’s soul, the weight of expectation crushing down on Thor, and now the sense of anomie and rootlessness which frames Steve Rogers second life in Captain America: The Winter Soldier. Comics long ago abandoned the simplistic moralism of early Superman, of course, but big screen cinema still loves a black and white dichotomy. Especially in the realm of superheroes and supervillains.

For me, it was the emotional complexity of Cap’s resurrection which provided the depth for all of the action sequences driving TWS. I very much enjoyed the discovery of his friendship with Sam Wilson, the veteran/counsellor and the way the script used this to explore the issue of Roger’s temporal dislocation.

I don’t want to go into plot points, because I know there’s lots of people haven’t seen the film yet and Marvel borrowed enthusiastically from the post-Bourne playbook of story mechanics. Suffice to say, I’ll happily watch it again when it becomes available via legitimate digital distribution channels everywhere.

If you want to talk plot and character revelations in the comments, however, feel free, with appropriate SPOILER WARNINGS.

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Barnesm reckons...

Posted April 7, 2014

"I’ll happily watch it again when it becomes available via legitimate digital distribution channels everywhere" I am so going to use that phrase in future. With of course all credit to the original source.

w from brisbane is gonna tell you...

Posted April 7, 2014

On the related topic, some might have seen a retweet of Bette Midler's tweet on 4 Apr 2014.

@Bette Midler
@Spotify and @Pandora have made it impossible for songwriters to earn a living:
three months streaming on Pandora, 4,175,149 plays=$114.11.

S.M. Stirling reckons...

Posted April 7, 2014

Which is why I buy all my music at full price.

Murphy puts forth...

Posted April 8, 2014

What Stirling said, per books.

On the other hand, this hypocrite is presently listening to Pharell's Happy on Spotify.

Respects,

Murph

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Murphy has opinions thus...

Posted April 7, 2014

There is only one thing that bothers me about SHIELD in general.

Where do they get their funding?

A Nimitz class carrier is nothing to sneeze at in terms of cost, complexity and time to construct. The follow on Ford class is even more complex, costly and has a longer lead time. These helicarriers, I suspect, are built after the events in NYC circa the Avengers. So figure a year and a half to two years for THREE of them?

Further, they seem to be crossbred with the Lexington Class carriers pre-World War II.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexington-class_aircraft_carrier

The kid in me loves the helicarriers but the guy who does some of the research around here is scratching his head going, "How is that possible?" Black box MacGuffins like the ARC reactor and Stark repulsor technology take you only so far.

That being said, I did enjoy the journey Steve Rogers takes through the story. A stranger in a strange land doing things he is uncomfortable with makes the hard call with the help of a few of his friends. In that respect, I did enjoy the film.

Respects,

Murph

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Barnesm mutters...

Posted April 7, 2014

only ONE thing?

Murphy has opinions thus...

Posted April 7, 2014

I believe, "Where do they get their funding?" covers my overall concerns.

Sudragon puts forth...

Posted April 7, 2014

Wasn't there a line in 'Armageddon' about this? Something about $4000 toilet seats?

Murphy puts forth...

Posted April 8, 2014

I'm still trying to figure out why the rovers had gatling guns in that movie.

In fact, I want to know why Hollywood, when they are at a loss for a plot says, "I know, gatling guns, fuckahs!!!!"

Respects,

Murph

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Sudragon asserts...

Posted April 13, 2014

Because:

Ever since Richard Gatling's 1861 invention, the rapid-firing rotary gun has had a special place among BFGs. Because it's basically the gun equivalent of a chainsaw, there is an undeniable attraction to a gun which can produce high enough rates of fire to cleanly trim hedges, cut down trees, or, in the case of the GAU-8 Avenger, cut tanks in half. Just imagine what they do to human flesh.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GatlingGood

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Paul_Nicholas_Boylan has opinions thus...

Posted April 7, 2014

I think they explained SHIELD funding in the film - something to do with ripping off the middle class.

Murphy mutters...

Posted April 8, 2014

A pyramid scheme. That explains everything.

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Don Bagert asserts...

Posted April 9, 2014

No they didn't :( I was thinking that in the MCU they could have really made a Cap cartoon series in the 1960's and have Steve encounter it ansd the theme song, perhaps at the museum exhibit about him LOL

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Blarkon mumbles...

Posted April 7, 2014

Black Widow - Born according to the released shield files in 1980.

Said she was trained by the KGB - which became the FSB in 1991 or so.

They should have just said "Trained by the FSB"

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S.M. Stirling mumbles...

Posted April 7, 2014

Funding:

Y'know, just before WWI, the British Imperial General Staff requested a doubling of the number of machine guns in every British battalion, and a reserve to replace losses in the event of war (and more heavy artillery.)

Lloyd George, who was then at the Treasury, denied the request on the grounds that the British public was heavily overtaxed. At that time, only people making more than about 1000 pounds a year, equivalent to about $250,000 now, paid substantial income tax, especially if they had children.

After 1918, Lloyd George had the barefaced effrontery to recount how he forced the reactionary military brass to accept more machine guns, when in reality they were clamoring for every one they could get. This should not surprise anyone who knows anything about Lloyd George, who was a brilliant but utterly corrupt and dishonest man who lied reflexively and with vicious bitchery whenever he thought he could get away with it.

Politicians spend the money on stuff that's more popular in peacetime, and then when the balloon goes up soldiers pay for it in blood.

(BTW, the stuff about Haig and the others not understanding modern weapons is complete crap. Haig was an enthusiast for new technology, demanded every machine gun and heavy artillery piece he could get, loved tanks as soon as he saw them, and badgered London continually for more aircraft. Kitchener in 1914 bluntly told the Cabinet that the war would last at least 3 years and require mobilizing millions of men, profoundly shocking the "frocks" who'd expected a limited-liability naval war. The British commanders weren't usually geniuses, but they -were- usually solid, intelligent professionals. They were simply confronted with a situation that didn't -have- any good solutions.)

Murphy swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted April 8, 2014

One problem with the mythology versus reality (not helped by historical revisionism) is that many present day history professors avoid matters military like the plague, preferring instead to focus on social history.

Worse, if you try to teach military history in a standard survey course you find that there is considerable resistance to the material because they've been taught over and over and over again that, "War is bad, evil and we don't learn evil things."

So instead we focus on the lives of fishmongers, skirt makers and other unsundry bits of social history.

Or to put it another way, most of the military history I know I've had to acquire on my own through my own research without mentorship.

Anyway, if there is rampant ignorance about Field Marshall Douglas Haig out there (and I confess to skimming the wiki entry on me after I read your post, Steve) it is part in parcel due to what passes for history classes today.

Respects,

Murph

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Barnesm reckons...

Posted April 8, 2014

""War is bad, evil and we don't learn evil thing" so is disease but I don't see calls for doctors to take it from th curriculum in medical schools.

Surely the US with as long a military history as it has, been involved in so many conflicts must have dedicated, professional miltary historians?

Lulu mutters...

Posted April 8, 2014

Murphy, for a fully-rounded picture of history one probably needs to look at both (as well as others). I think there was a long period (very long: I got some it in my 1980s schooling) when history was taught as military & government only.

Murphy asserts...

Posted April 8, 2014

Lulu, you'd think but trust me, most of the historians I encountered tend to avoid it in the classroom.

Barnes, yes, we have competent military historians. They generally tend to be in the military though not all of them are. In fact, they tend to be everywhere but in a college classroom teaching their subject matter.

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Murph

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Barnesm reckons...

Posted April 8, 2014

Damn doesn't that mean that college class rooms are missing a significant chunk of history in their history classes?

Murphy mutters...

Posted April 8, 2014

Yes.

As I mentioned upthread, there is significant resistance to the topic among students and faculty.

I had an undergrad professor who said, "Nothing important happens during the wars."

Now, maybe he simply didn't like talking about them. I have my topics that I prefer not to talk about. That preference doesn't override actual necessity concerning the coverage of a topic. For instance, I can't skip American Reconstruction in my American History since 1865 course nor can I brush it off with, "Read it out of the book."

Moreover, in survey courses, which is what most college students will take (the mandatory minimum exerting as little effort as possible in order to maintain a passing average) it is impossible to cover every valid topic in detail. So some instructors try different things to compensate.

Personally, I prefer to pick an historical figure who can serve as a focal point for a given period of history, using them as a tour guide to illustrate problems, challenges, potential solutions and conflicts. That option is not always possible with each topic but when it is an option and I use it, students seem to dial into the material better.

Anyway, Captain America was great.

And Carthage must be destroyed!

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Murph

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Dino not to be confused with has opinions thus...

Posted April 7, 2014

So Much to say!

Will have a look at Which-50 shortly.

Missed the last post/email.

Saw a video in Canberra 1996 called "Horny Housewifes".

Credits included PJRL and N(*).

Then there's that video 'Perfeect People" by Tommy.

Where is he now?

Signing off.

Dino not to be confused with mumbles...

Posted April 7, 2014

'78 Records.

Posnamo, come no?

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NBlob mutters...

Posted April 7, 2014

While this week's episode of cultural imperialism maybe offer momentary 'splodey diversion even dressed dowin the shabby rags of ennui, Samsung (not apple) have produced graphene monolayer monocrystals. This is a big deal. Perhaps not cold fusion or room temp super conductor big, but big enough.

http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/179874-samsungs-graphene-breakthrough-could-finally-put-the-wonder-material-into-real-world-devices

Barnesm would have you know...

Posted April 8, 2014

Its an impresive techical achievement and will chnage how tech is build in ways we can not even yet imagine.

NBlob swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted April 8, 2014

"Bob, why do you hate America?"

60% jealousy

30% fear

10% other

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan asserts...

Posted April 8, 2014

I was kidding. I never really suspected you of hating America (just Kansas, Arizona and Missippippi).

I don't think I'll ever ask that question in jest again.

Murphy asserts...

Posted April 8, 2014

Those Kansans did carry out Order Number 11.

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan is gonna tell you...

Posted April 8, 2014

I thought that happened in Missouri.

Do you think there was a more immediate and effective way to respond to the Lawrence Massacre?

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted April 8, 2014

I just realized we opened the door for a discussion that includes Jayhawkers, Bushwhackers and Redlegs but excludes just about everyone here. I deeply regret doing so. Let's not go there, shall we?

Murphy ducks in to say...

Posted April 8, 2014

PNB,

1. Yes.

2. No.

3. OK.

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Murph

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Barnesm mutters...

Posted April 8, 2014

" but excludes just about everyone here" hey I may be ignorant of all the facts, details and issues. Doesn't mean I don't have an opinion on the matter on which I will carry out long, text heavy posting about.

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan mumbles...

Posted April 8, 2014

I stand corrected: everybody here but Barnesy.

w from brisbane is gonna tell you...

Posted April 8, 2014

Speaking of Missouri, I never realised that Kansas City was also known as the "Paris of the Plains".
That does make me wonder what Murph, aka 'Frenchy', has been complaining about all these years. It must be a product of his innate Parisian hauteur.

Murphy has opinions thus...

Posted April 8, 2014

We're called that because of the proliferation of fountains, many of which often do not work.

As for French food, Aixois is worth a visit.

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Murph

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NBlob puts forth...

Posted April 8, 2014

It's actually Oreganics & Washingtonians* that truly Sh!t me. Their superscillious attitude "we're so clever" "We make boeings" that grates.

*Note: the State, not the Disctrict of Columbia. East coasters are generally more humble, gracious and they have the Smithsonian.

w from brisbane has opinions thus...

Posted April 8, 2014

The state of Rhode Island always seems short of fans.

NBlob asserts...

Posted April 8, 2014

That'd be because it barely qualifies as a Zip code. Whomever granted State-hood must have had an agenda.

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan mumbles...

Posted April 8, 2014

I am shocked no one here knows that Kansas City was known as "the Paris of the Plains" due to the availability of inexpensive, but skilled, prostitutes.

S.M. Stirling ducks in to say...

Posted April 10, 2014

A joint project of UCLA and the University of Tennessee has successfully reconnected the spinal cords of four men totally paralyzed from the waist down for 2-4 years.

(They tried the new technique of four men; all four recovered showed about the same response. The program will now be expanded.)

The men have recovered sensation and mobility in the lower limbs, bladder and bowel control, and sexual function.

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Rob is gonna tell you...

Posted April 7, 2014

My money will be spent on the Lego Movie. and maybe beer, and a band or maybe beer and wait for the DVD,

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w from brisbane has opinions thus...

Posted April 8, 2014

Not aiming this at anybody, but....
I can't see how people who enjoy the super hero genre, can disdain the fantasy genre because magic.

Those emotional complexities are also stock in the fantasy/magic genre. Those who have magic are often fearful of the ability. Struggle to control it. Get it wrong to horrific effect. See it as a curse. Can feel it's threat of absolute moral corruption. Would rather not walk across the land to fight monstrous evil.

NBlob has opinions thus...

Posted April 8, 2014

@ W. It's pretty simple;

1 There is a Maguffin (Spider-bite etc) that sets limits on the degree of superhero-ness, unlike in Magical stories where there is no *logical* limitation of powers.

2 No hobbits, sprites, elves or other punchable little F*kers.

Barnesm has opinions thus...

Posted April 8, 2014

The problem with the superhero genre is not the Maguffin itself but when they are a medium that has been running a continuous story for 70years and you have to keep inventing new ways of using, challanging the character.

Imagine fantasy telling one continuous story for 70years with the same characters and settings at times it would have to dig into the grab bag that DC and Marvel have had to resort to.

Barnesm asserts...

Posted April 8, 2014

Not so big an issue with the movies sinec they can simply choose the best stories and ignore any bits that make things ridiculous/too fantastic.

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Dino not to be confused with has opinions thus...

Posted April 8, 2014

Hey W,

Magic is sxciesez yet to be understood.

Flying planes were magic a while ago.

Still everyone is a scientific expert aren't they?

S.M. Stirling has opinions thus...

Posted April 10, 2014

Actually, no, they weren't. The principle was understood as far back as the Renaissance, and working models were demonstrated in the 1840's. The main problems were stability and a power source with a sufficiently high power-to-weight ratio, which was just engineering.

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tqft is gonna tell you...

Posted April 8, 2014

I will put this here rather than in the SJ thread preceding

http://www.dailydot.com/fandom/black-widow-reviews-wrong-captain-america/

"

Just for kicks, I took a look at the top reviews for The Avengers, to see what America’s most acclaimed and respected cinema critics thought of Black Widow back in 2012. Bear in mind that most of these quotes are the only description of Scarlett Johansson’s performance in the entire review.

In the New Yorker, Anthony Lane wrote, “not to be left out, Black Widow repels invading aliens through the sheer force of her corsetry,” while the Wall Street Journal’s Pulitzer-winning Joe Morgenstern complained, “Black Widow spends lots of time looking puzzled or confused.”"

Hopefully Blackwidow with SJ does get a solo movie

Dino not to be confused with swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted April 8, 2014

Seeking Female,

Intelligent, nice, likes good food, honest, good fighter.

Dino not to be confused with would have you know...

Posted April 8, 2014

I met her when she was a kid but she (probably)won't remember it.

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Don Bagert swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted April 9, 2014

Hey, you know that early scene with Sam where Steve has a small pad where he writes down things that he missed in the 60+ years he was on ice that have been suggested to him? I gather that the list of items is different for each country! JB - see any Australian references there? :)

tqft reckons...

Posted April 9, 2014

it was too fast for me to catch any oz specific reference. There is a reddit thread devoted to this topic.

w from brisbane asserts...

Posted April 9, 2014

Australia & New Zealand

AC/DC
Space travel
Steve Irwin
Skippy the Bush Kangaroo
Tim Tams
Thai Food
Star Wars/Trek
Nirvana (band)
Rocky (Rocky II?)
Troubleman (soundtrack)

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan mutters...

Posted April 9, 2014

You missed "cashed up bogans."

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Don Bagert asserts...

Posted April 11, 2014

Thank you!

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Myles Lobdell reckons...

Posted April 11, 2014

Superman's morality may have been black and white in the germinal days of the 1930s, but it was black and white in a very politically progressive and partisan manner: crusading against corporations and the merchants of death and quelling endemic government corruption. All consonant with the latest Captain America movie.

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Posted April 7, 2014 into Movies by John Birmingham

Saw her yesterday in Captain America, which was awesome and which I'll write up in a moment, and she's also playing against type in some freakish horror movie where she lures Scottish men to their deaths. But I think I'll probably see her in this Luc Besson SF action/thriller first.

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Murphy mumbles...

Posted April 7, 2014

Luc Besson is always worth the time.

And then there is Scarlett, who is also worth the time.

Oh, Cap Two? Teh Awesome!

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Murph

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S.M. Stirling asserts...

Posted April 7, 2014

I wrote Scarlett Johansson before Scarlett Johansson was cool... 8-).

Seeing Cap tomorrow.

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Barnesm swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted April 7, 2014

On those endorsements I too am off to see Captain America 2. Is the title the Winter Solider is a reference to Paine's The American Crisis with the line

"The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of his country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman"?

Murphy mutters...

Posted April 7, 2014

I wouldn't be surprised if Marvel was inspired by Paine but I suspect the more simplistic reason is that he was a Cold War communist counterpart to Captain America.

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Barnesm has opinions thus...

Posted April 7, 2014

wouldn't that be ???????? Rossiya?

Barnesm mutters...

Posted April 7, 2014

Kapitan Rossiya

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Paul_Nicholas_Boylan would have you know...

Posted April 7, 2014

My son and I saw CM2 yesterday and we loved it. Can't wait for JB's take.

And Steve, Scarlett was always cool.

S.M. Stirling mumbles...

Posted April 7, 2014

Paul, I wrote Scarlett before Scarlett was -born-.

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan mumbles...

Posted April 8, 2014

I got no comeback for that.

What did you think of the film?

S.M. Stirling reckons...

Posted April 8, 2014

Captain America was great, but we need "Black Widow".

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w from brisbane asserts...

Posted April 7, 2014

I think I had seen her in a minor role before but, like for many, the first time I became aware of Scarlett Johannson was in 'Lost in Translation' with Bill Murray.
The opening shot of that film was very memorable as an unconventional introduction to the relatively unknown female lead.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyOSuFBS7IA

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Bangar mutters...

Posted April 7, 2014

Again the 10% fallacy, but the movie looks good.

John Birmingham mumbles...

Posted April 7, 2014

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's a Scientology lie, too, actually.

Bangar has opinions thus...

Posted April 7, 2014

Haven't heard the Scientology (can believe it though).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_percent_of_brain_myth

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dylwah swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted April 7, 2014

Looks like she is going to have a hard time leaving a fossil.

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S.M. Stirling puts forth...

Posted April 7, 2014

Scientology uses it, but the meme was floating around long before Elron. It was a mid-20th century staple; it comes up in a lot of the SF of the era.

Sudragon would have you know...

Posted April 7, 2014

The rest, apparently, is used for penguins.

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WarDog has opinions thus...

Posted April 7, 2014

Limitless on steriods, done by Luc Besson. Nice.

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Dino not to be confused with mumbles...

Posted April 7, 2014

Yeah But this is the real deal-

Code Pink.org or something

Even Scarlett can't beat the fkwits of AIPAC and the Sycophants in Egypt.

Egyptian "Men" who suck camel dicks. Then look toough. Pieces of shit.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/03/04/medea-egypt/

There is a woman I would die for.

Dino not to be confused with ducks in to say...

Posted April 7, 2014

Noew Israhell has shut dowm der Embassies watch the Egyptians follow suit.

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tygertim ducks in to say...

Posted April 8, 2014

The trailer looks awesome! I've marked out time to watch Lucy when it comes out.

Greetings from long absent

Tygertim

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Barnesm reckons...

Posted April 8, 2014

Welcome back TT

NBlob ducks in to say...

Posted April 8, 2014

+1

Long time No read

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tygertim mutters...

Posted April 13, 2014

I's good to be back. Courtesy of kindle fire. I've missed you guys!

tygertim

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