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Do NOT buy or upgrade to Dragon Dicate 4

Posted March 10, 2014 into Science and Tech by John Birmingham

I suppose I could list the shitstorms of perdition which have attended my upgrading from Dragon 3 to 4, but I don't know if the internet is big enough to contain them.

Lets just say I'm getting to know all of the customer service representatives at Nuance's Third World Call Centres very, very well indeed.

My advice, for now, stay the hell away from this product.

Dragonspawn.

Oh, what the fuck.

• They charged me double for the download.

• The software registration is borked.

• Following the instructions to fix the software registration totally bricks the program which crashes before loading.

• And the final insult? The automated online 'customer service' system prompted me to change my password, and now won't recognise the new password.

I've uninstalled every file I can find. Trashed and deleted the preferences. Run disk repair four times. Redownloaded the program. All to no avail.

I think, as annoying as this would be anyway, it's having been double-charged that adds that certain exquisite frisson of butthurt to the whole experience.

UPDATE

Turns out this is a 'known issue'. A thousand code monkeys are hammering away at a thousand keyboards in the basement of Nuance to fix it.

Oh, and their server has crashed.

So for now my advice remains DO NOT BUY.

4 Responses to ‘Do NOT buy or upgrade to Dragon Dicate 4’

w from brisbane mutters...

Posted March 10, 2014

Thanks JB.

Thankfully, we can always rely on the headlong rush of the early adopter to act as a canary for the rest of us.

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Murphy puts forth...

Posted March 10, 2014

Ah, the pitfalls of the Early Adopter/Upgrader.

I weep for thee.

<giggle, snicker>

I do.

Respects (sorta),

Murph

On the Outer Marches

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Blarkon is gonna tell you...

Posted March 10, 2014

This wouldn't have happened if Steve Jobs was still alive.

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BrianC would have you know...

Posted March 17, 2014

I hear it works just fine on PC.

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Morons ruining everything

Posted December 20, 2013 into Science and Tech by John Birmingham

The internet is cool, except for they way it lets ignorant munters feel like they're anything other than ignorant munters. But the internet is also cool because sometimes it learns 'em. It learns 'em good.

Apols for the poor image.

You can see the hi res orginal here.

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68 Responses to ‘Morons ruining everything’

insomniac mutters...

Posted December 20, 2013

I think that's excellent.

I feel the same way when morons start talking about fluoridation of water and how the stuff THEY use is a DEADLY POISON and DID you KNOW there are 8643 FLOURINE compounds.

Then you have to teach them about covalent and ionic fluorine, etc etc

Murphy mutters...

Posted December 20, 2013

Fluoridation, corrupts the bodily fluids, you know.

Respects,

Murph

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ShaneAlpha mutters...

Posted December 20, 2013

Blame Texans for flouridation. Damn them and their lack of cavities due to natural flouridation of their water.

insomniac has opinions thus...

Posted December 20, 2013

Not sure if Murph is serious or pulling my leg ... spelled fluoridation correctly so not obviously a nutter ... been drinking fluoridated water all my life and I'm jhgsge ... jj houwqihwg jhkjn iuiundjiUHQW ...

damian asserts...

Posted December 20, 2013

Ever seen a commie drink water, insomniac?

Sooner or later we all take a turn as the Group Captain Mandrake to someone's General Ripper.

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan puts forth...

Posted December 21, 2013

Damien, do you realize that in addition to fluoridating water, there are studies underway to fluoridate salt, flour, fruit juices, soup, sugar, milk, ice cream? Ice cream, Damien. Children's ice cream.

You know when fluoridation began? 1946. 1946, Damien. How does that coincide with your post-war Commie conspiracy? It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual, and certainly without any choice. That's the way your hard-core Commie works.

I first became aware of it during the physical act of love. A profound sense of fatigue, a feeling of emptiness followed. Luckily I was able to interpret these feelings correctly. Loss of essence.

I can assure you it has not recurred. Women sense my power, and they seek the life essence. I do not avoid women, Damien, but I do deny them my essence.

Brian ducks in to say...

Posted December 21, 2013

Paul, I believe it's more correct to say that woman know about your life essence and instead go along with your unspoken wishes.

Female wisdom . . .you have to acknowledge it.

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan mutters...

Posted December 21, 2013

I don't "have" to do anything. You aren't the boss of me.

insomniac reckons...

Posted December 21, 2013

After an evening of drinking "flavored" water at the Christmas party I must have fallen victim to said fluoridation. I have headaches, loss of essence, and generally suffering, not to mention the free wisdom being dished out by the resident female

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Brian mumbles...

Posted December 20, 2013

Wonderful.

I'm old school, in so far . . .'your choice, your problem'. Except when it come to urban superstition that harms others

But . . .unhappily, stupid ignorant munters will always be with us.

As an aside . . .little mention has been made about the uselessness of hand sanitisers (modern equivalent of holy water), and vitamin supplements (holy wafers). Use soap, eat right . . .how hard is that.

ShaneAlpha reckons...

Posted December 20, 2013

Or in most cases they can combine the two and eat soap.

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Chaz has opinions thus...

Posted December 20, 2013

As the worlds population expands so does the number of fkwits.

pitpat ducks in to say...

Posted December 20, 2013

And geniuses.

ShaneAlpha mumbles...

Posted December 20, 2013

and serial killers.

Barnesm is gonna tell you...

Posted December 21, 2013

and genius serial killers

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Durand puts forth...

Posted December 20, 2013

Can we start calling this sort of thing "Santa-Biotics"?

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Bangar asserts...

Posted December 20, 2013

More off than on I think MIQFB is required, Minium IQ For Breathing/Breeding (users choice).

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NBlob has opinions thus...

Posted December 20, 2013

When Not tending the elephants #10000, I am proudly of 2nd regiment 1st phalanx Rapid reaction hippy stomping force.

I will not tolerate antiscience nor magical thinking. You can Believe whatever the hell you like; 1 Dog, No Dog, a cornucopia of Dogs. You can rub blue mud into your bellybutton till the cows come home, you can shoose not to eat cows. I couldn't care less. seriously 0.0 Give a Sh!t factor.

But.

When you start huckstering magic cures, pimping antiscience or deliberately obsfucating the truth, strap your offended-pants on because Thee & Me are at war.

My alltime favourite stupidism is "Science is just One way of knowing something." My 2nd is "Arn't sciematists changing thier minds all the time?"

My snark was bred to hunt stupid, I used to hood her beak and mitt her claws so as to minimise the harm done to stupid peddlers, but these days she goes out unhindered. I count the Unfriended statuses @farcebook like scalps.

Nocturnalist has opinions thus...

Posted December 20, 2013

+++My alltime favourite stupidism is "Science is just One way of knowing something." My 2nd is "Arn't sciematists changing thier minds all the time?"+++

Puts me in mind of a Chick tract where a poor misguided science-type shows a model dinosaur off to an evangelist, talking about how much fun palaeontology is. The next couple of panels go something like:

"Ah, but did you know that scientists keep changing their minds about what dinosaurs were like, and even disagree with one another regularly?"

"WHAT?! But... but that means I can never believe anything any scientist says ever again!"

The tract finishes with the former dinosaur enthusiast on his knees on the laboratory floor, sobbing brokenly and begging Jesus to forgive him for ever having listened to the scientists' lies.

A co-worker of mine has distilled it down a little further than that. Start talking about anything like this around him and he simply sneers "Oh. Right. Scientists." and that's the end of that chapter.

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan puts forth...

Posted December 22, 2013

I don't trust scientists because they are the only ones who get to do science.

Chaz has opinions thus...

Posted December 23, 2013

well Paul you did choose to become a lawyer....

I'm certain there's an applied particle physics MSc out there with your name on it!

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MickH would have you know...

Posted December 20, 2013

This is very similiar to the problems the telecommunications industry is having with the mum lead 'not near our kids' mobile phone tower pomgrom.

Its all based on the writings of a dead NZ engineer that was primarily writing about EME from high power transmission lines which is a completely different duck.

The delicious irony is not lost on engineers though. The same mums encourage their offspring to use mobile phones. So which is capable of the possiblity of more damage? (there is no proof of any damage) the tramsmitter your are holding next to your ear or the one a K away?

Tweeky is gonna tell you...

Posted December 24, 2013

I remember back in engineering school (I did electrical and electronic engineering) in one of my classes we calculated how close to a cellphone bases-tower you'd have to be get a dangerous dose of microwave radiation and it out to be 12", a foot. That's right, to get a dangerous dose you have to stand a foot in front of the base-tower antenna to get "Microwaved".

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Dino not to be confused with puts forth...

Posted December 20, 2013

I am a Moron.

There is a risk with every single 'action' and little Science is absolute.

There is a risk with vaccinations.

Some people have had adverse reactions.

It comes down to probabilities.

Don't get me wrong I am pro Vaccination.

Dino not to be confused with is gonna tell you...

Posted December 20, 2013

But the Flouride in Water?

Really it helps teeth?

Really?

Byron City Council doesn't agree.

What we should do is drop a "active' element to reduce obesity.

What is the real health problem here?

Aluminum waste?

Therbs is gonna tell you...

Posted December 23, 2013

Byron Council? You take notice of Byron Fucking Council? You do realise they are a prime bunch of anti science fuckwits.

Dino not to be confused with asserts...

Posted December 23, 2013

Therbs,

I couldn't agree more but their efforts in sustaining the last vestiges of the Melany Hippie Population should be supported.

"Hippies are people too"

Don't get me wrong I love avocados and macadamias but soon you won't be able to see the Glass House Mountains for coffee trees and Barista carts.

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sibeen reckons...

Posted December 20, 2013

Just recently there has been a minor victory in the never ending war against fuckwits. The Australian Vaccination Network (sic) has been ordered to change its name. I'm of the belief that the court should also have ordered Meryl Dorey to be blown the fuck up, but more reasoned people who I sometimes associate with think that I can get a tad extreme...as if.

One minor quibble with the linked post. Smallpox...it's gone. Unless some evil scientist is stockpilling some variant around somewhere, humanity shouldn't have to put up with this scrouge again.

Yah SCIENCE!

Bangar would have you know...

Posted December 20, 2013

Not quite gone still samples aroung in labs, but eridacted in the wild.

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Dino not to be confused with ducks in to say...

Posted December 20, 2013

OK JB,

I go up to the local playing my Christmas Present to myself(High Voltage ACDC) on fkn 11 and it sounds perfect on my ute stereo, and the fkn Hilltop Hoods 'accost me' and flash 'green 100 doallar bills at me Jb!

Now you control them JB.

I don't care if they have a fkn Jack Russel.

As Murph says- "there willl be Blood"

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Dino not to be confused with would have you know...

Posted December 20, 2013

Any way the HillTop Hoods are fkn Millionare Cocksuckers.

Make a mention next podcast JB.

They have my address.

Chickenshit Losers

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Dino not to be confused with puts forth...

Posted December 20, 2013

And we won't talk about Nelson Street Annadale 1984?

We Won't talk about Warriewood or the Shangri La.

We won't talk about it,

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Dino not to be confused with asserts...

Posted December 20, 2013

Merry Chritmas ASio,

Sio like Uncle.

The Man from...

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Dino not to be confused with puts forth...

Posted December 20, 2013

That noise you here is a Submarine Claxon.

"Dive Dive"

Hahahahah.

More info on request....

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Zygmunt Kletterstein swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted December 21, 2013

But the Hippies love Ayurvedic medicine. And that's full of the use of Mercury and similar elements and horrids.

Huzzah!

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pi puts forth...

Posted December 21, 2013

If chemicals were bad for you, they wouldn't be so expensive.

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drej mutters...

Posted December 21, 2013

OT, Manteresting is shutting down for the time being. Great site I found courtesy of this blog. Webtime productivity levels looking healthier.

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Dick ducks in to say...

Posted December 23, 2013

I actually like the English Professors writing excercise further down.

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Tweeky would have you know...

Posted December 24, 2013

I have no time for these wilfully ignorant anti-vaccine retards and any who refuses to have their kid(s) be vaccinated (Unless for valid medical reasons) should be held legal liable and to account if any of their kids get sick and die or even worse cause other kids to get sick and maybe. I've got Asperger's syndrome but it sure as hell doesn't come from vaccines (Mum made she we got all our shots) it's an inherited neurological condition on the upper end of the Autism spectrum. I also have no time for these anti-fluoridation retards who're basing their views on false and disproven science and wooly thinking.

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Scratching my Head mumbles...

Posted December 24, 2013

Does this mean the elixir of the gods is bad for me as there are no heavy metals or trace elements in it other than hops, yeast and purified mountain spring water?

I shall commence eating toothpaste to make up for this immediately.

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Conspiracy Cat swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted December 26, 2013

My oldest son is autistic. His autism WAS caused by vaccination, and there's not a person in this world who can convince me otherwise.

Surtac would have you know...

Posted December 26, 2013

Sorry, I can't believe that. Both my girls are high-functioning ASD and vaccination was most definitely not the issue. The eldest, 20yo - Aspie and ADD, was (in hindsight) obvious immediately post-partum, but the diagnosis took a few years. The youngest - 13yo, Aspie and ADHD, was again obvious but we only got a diagnosis after pre-school.

IIRC, the vaccination 'theory' only appeared after my eldest was born,, but was thoroughly and officially debunked a few years ago - when the so-called researcher was found to have invented his 'results'. The refutation was in The Lancet I believe.

I know where my daughters got their 'autism'. It wasn't from vaccination - they got it from me.

NBlob asserts...

Posted December 26, 2013

Miss CC, with great respect you may as well blame the stars ,or the fluoride.

There is simply no medical means by which A can lead to B.

Some kids, a vanishingly small % have a reaction: rash, elevated temperature, all the symptons of a allergenic response. A further tiny minority of Those kids a tiny group have a strong reaction, like a flu.

But one may as well blame a broken leg on the imunisation.

If you choose to believe one led to the other, there's probably nothing I can say or do to convince you otherwise, but I beg you, don't tell other parents to Not immunise their kids.

Tweeky would have you know...

Posted December 27, 2013

Miss CC aside from the fact you clearly are a gullible fool who has believed all that anti-vaccine BS (Including Jenny McCarthy's erroneous belief that the MMR shot caused her child's Aspergers) which has been debunked in the so called http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMR_vaccine_controversy which started with the publication of a now debinked and discredited paper by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Wakefield who has now subsequently been deregistered for proffessional misconduct. He'd published his paper with the intent of discrediting the MMR vaccine so that he and fellow co-conspirators could then profit off their own new autism-linked tests and their own new vaccine, unfortunately his actions have caused enormous damage and it's a near certainty that children have died from treatable infections either due to a) not being vaccinated or b) catching them from unvaccinated children.

Now as i've said in a previous post I have Asperger's syndrome (An inherited neurological disorder) and I also have aspects of adult ADHD, it is quite common for people with Asperger's who also have aspects of related neurological disoders such as ADHD, OCD, and Tourettes. I have one brother who has ADHD and the other who is "Ghosted" (Asperger's personality) where he has some but not all of the key traits of Asperger's, the only one out of my siblings who's neurologically typical (NT for short) a fancy term for normal is my sister.

I seriously and very strenuously suggest that you go and educate yourself about Asperger's syndrome as you're clearly quite ignorant and misinformed about what causes it (It's an inherited condition), so please stop parading your wilfull ignorance. If you live in Australia then I recommend you take him to Dr. Tony Atwood (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Tony_Attwood) a specialist dealing with children who're Asperger's or High Functioning Autistics and here's his website (http://www.tonyattwood.com.au), he has written some excellent books and i've met him at several Asperger's conferences in New Zealand and he is an excellent speaker

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Conspiracy Cat swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted December 27, 2013

tweeky, those sorts of insults are uncalled-for. My son does not have Asbergers, nor does he have ADHD or ODD. He is Autistic. It WAS caused by immunisation. I was there. I saw what happened. No study by alleged experts can ever convince me or anybody else who was there that we are wrong.

Vaccines are poison. They can cause illness, permanent disability or even death. Unfortunately, the diseases they are meant to protect children from can also cause permanent disability or death. It's a difficult choice for any parent to make: put poison in your baby, or risk seeing him/her suffer from a preventable disease. Getting emotive and calling people names because they say something you don't agree with only makes it harder for them to make an informed choice.

Not that it's easy to make an informed choice. Pretty much every website has an agenda for or against immunisation. All have 'proof' that their point of view is the only 'right' one, and anyone who disagrees with them 'doesn't love their children'. In an ideal world, there would be a website with ALL the pros and cons, so that parents could make an informed choice without all the emotive pressure.

But then, in an ideal world, there would be no disease.

NBob, I would not dream of telling anybody whether or not to vaccinate their kids. I only have the right to make that call for my own kids. Incidentally, after much careful research, I did have my subsequent children immunised. Vaccines are poison, yes, but given the resurgence of some of the more insidious diseases, I felt immunisation was the lesser of the two evils.

It's worth noting that in Victoria, the chicken pox virus has mutated and the vaccine provided by the government has no effect whatsoever. Three years on, and there is still no effective vaccine for the new strain. So I would advise adults who have not had chicken pox to stay out of Victoria during December and January, when the virus is doing the rounds.

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Conspiracy Cat would have you know...

Posted December 27, 2013

tweeky, those sorts of insults are uncalled-for. My son does not have Asbergers, nor does he have ADHD or ODD. He is Autistic. It WAS caused by immunisation. I was there. I saw what happened. No study by alleged experts can ever convince me or anybody else who was there that we are wrong.

Vaccines are poison. They can cause illness, permanent disability or even death. Unfortunately, the diseases they are meant to protect children from can also cause permanent disability or death. It's a difficult choice for any parent to make: put poison in your baby, or risk seeing him/her suffer from a preventable disease. Getting emotive and calling people names because they say something you don't agree with only makes it harder for them to make an informed choice.

Not that it's easy to make an informed choice. Pretty much every website has an agenda for or against immunisation. All have 'proof' that their point of view is the only 'right' one, and anyone who disagrees with them 'doesn't love their children'. In an ideal world, there would be a website with ALL the pros and cons, so that parents could make an informed choice without all the emotive pressure.

But then, in an ideal world, there would be no disease.

NBob, I would not dream of telling anybody whether or not to vaccinate their kids. I only have the right to make that call for my own kids. Incidentally, after much careful research, I did have my subsequent children immunised. Vaccines are poison, yes, but given the resurgence of some of the more insidious diseases, I felt immunisation was the lesser of the two evils.

It's worth noting that in Victoria, the chicken pox virus has mutated and the vaccine provided by the government has no effect whatsoever. Three years on, and there is still no effective vaccine for the new strain. So I would advise adults who have not had chicken pox to stay out of Victoria during December and January, when the virus is doing the rounds.

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Conspiracy Cat swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted December 27, 2013

tweeky, those sorts of insults are uncalled-for. My son does not have Asbergers, nor does he have ADHD or ODD. He is Autistic. It WAS caused by immunisation. I was there. I saw what happened. No study by alleged experts can ever convince me or anybody else who was there that we are wrong.

Vaccines are poison. They can cause illness, permanent disability or even death. Unfortunately, the diseases they are meant to protect children from can also cause permanent disability or death. It's a difficult choice for any parent to make: put poison in your baby, or risk seeing him/her suffer from a preventable disease. Getting emotive and calling people names because they say something you don't agree with only makes it harder for them to make an informed choice.

Not that it's easy to make an informed choice. Pretty much every website has an agenda for or against immunisation. All have 'proof' that their point of view is the only 'right' one, and anyone who disagrees with them 'doesn't love their children'. In an ideal world, there would be a website with ALL the pros and cons, so that parents could make an informed choice without all the emotive pressure.

But then, in an ideal world, there would be no disease.

NBob, I would not dream of telling anybody whether or not to vaccinate their kids. I only have the right to make that call for my own kids. Incidentally, after much careful research, I did have my subsequent children immunised. Vaccines are poison, yes, but given the resurgence of some of the more insidious diseases, I felt immunisation was the lesser of the two evils.

It's worth noting that in Victoria, the chicken pox virus has mutated and the vaccine provided by the government has no effect whatsoever. Three years on, and there is still no effective vaccine for the new strain. So I would advise adults who have not had chicken pox to stay out of Victoria during December and January, when the virus is doing the rounds.

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Tweeky asserts...

Posted December 27, 2013

Are you trying to spam this thread Miss CC because you've posted the same post three times.

"My son does not have Asbergers, nor does he have ADHD or ODD. He is Autistic."

You clearly have not paid any attention to the relevant detailes of my previous post, Asperger's, ADHD, OCD, Tourettes and a few other neurological disorders are all closely related and so is Autism. Asperger's syndrome is at the upper end of what's called "Autism Spectrum Disorder" (Emphasis on Spectrum) where at the bottom end is classic (Or Low functioning Autism) Autism where the person (Usually male) is locked into their own world is totally, or almost totally non-repsonsive, and in the middle is High-functioning Autism (Think of Rain Man as an example). You really should see one of the meetings I've gone to which is the local Asperger's support group and there's a huge variation plus there're a few high-functioning autistics there too. I might add that most of the people at my support group would have very little, if any, time at all for your eroneous belief the your son's vaccinations caused his autism, I suggest you look to both sides of his family and see if any of his relatives (Likely to be male) exhibit characteristics of ASD.

"It WAS caused by immunisation."

No. It. Is. Not. Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD for short) are an overwhelmingly inherited neurologically condition, sure environmental factors can aggravate it (Plus bad parenting) but it is still an inherited condition.

"Vaccines are poison. They can cause illness, permanent disability or even death. blah blah rant rant"

No, a properly designed and tested vaccine isn't poison and you also don't seem to understand that there is no such thing as a 100% safe medicine, no matter how well designed it is you'll always get a very small portion of those who're treated who have adverse reactions. As for getting emotive and calling you names i'm getting sick and tired of both those who purpetuate the anti-vaccine propanganda for their own selfish reasons and those who are stupid and gullible enough to swallow that rubbish hook, line, and sinker. Also you should look into the mirror when you acuse someone of getting emotional as your reactions seem to be that and you've allowed them to get the better of you.

Now on a final note please look look up and read those wikipedia links I provided and also have a look into Dr. Tony Atwood.

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Conspiracy Cat is gonna tell you...

Posted December 27, 2013

Perhaps, Tweeky, you should maybe shut the fuck up unless you have something useful to add to the debate. And no, your insults and nasty insinuations do not constitue 'useful'.

Tweeky reckons...

Posted December 27, 2013

I have something useful to say to this thread and I haven't been nasty, if I had you would have known about it. You clearly have have not bothered to read any of the information in the links i've posted and your reactions suggest that you're merely reacting and not thinking in a logical or reasonable manner at all which suggests you are beyond reason on this subject and are not capable of rationale response on the subject. The simple fact of the matter is that your son has an inherited neurological condition and you don't want to admit it but instead lock on to a convenient scape-goat (The MMR-vaccine) to blame for his condition. The simple fact of the matter is that vaccines have nothing to do with ASD and it can not be cured (Not without literally rewiring parts of the neocortex) but it can be treated with suitable therapies.

No, I will not shut the fuck up when I hear horse-shit being spouted from the likes of you who are willfully blind and can't admit they're wrong; I wouldn't be surprised if you were one of those twits who beleives in the Apollo moon-landing conspiracy.

Dino not to be confused with mutters...

Posted December 27, 2013

Tweeky,

I have never heard of the 'Moon Landing Conspiracy' but am fascinated to learn more about it.

Would you please describe it for me?

Keep in mind I have a Science Background.

Tweeky mumbles...

Posted December 27, 2013

Thr "Moon Landing Conspiracy" refers to the various BS theories (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_landing_conspiracy) that various crackpots and nutjobs (Unfortunately one of my brothers believes in this conspiracy horseshit) who believe the whole Apollo-programme was an elaborate hoax (Never mind the overwelming evidence that it really did happen). A lot of these anti-vaccine nutjobs (And their idiot cousin anti-Flouride wackjobs) are of a similar variety to these "Moon Conspiracy" "Theorists" in the way way they manage to pull together unrelated facts, half-truthes, outright falsehoods and just general woolly thinking; something I suspect that Birmo has no time for.

Dino not to be confused with ducks in to say...

Posted December 27, 2013

Thanks Tweeky,

I have found this-

http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/33900.html

Some people are 'Psyco' I have to admit.

One of the results of the conditions you describe, and I must confess I am a 'sufferer', is a reduction in people skills. I believe that some truths, even Scientific ones, change over time. Then there is the whole interpretation of data, the various schools of thought/paradigms and the net result(although with the best of intentions) of a muddle of discourse due to the Media or "interweb". Lots of crazy stuff on the interweb!

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Dino not to be confused with reckons...

Posted December 27, 2013

Captain,

Securty have a question-

Set Phasers to "Tis the Season to be Jolly"?

Or

"Fa lalala la la la la la"?

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NBlob ducks in to say...

Posted December 27, 2013

Hm, conflicted. Part of me wants to leap to the defence of a lady in distress. Part of me wants to cheer on Tweeky.

Tweeky, round these here parts we tend to encourage the exchange of opinions of others with (often feigned) respect. Many of us hold opinions anathema to others, but the Gothic throws open its doors to some of the outliers in the political, economic, fiscal & foreign policy spectra. To date the closest we'd had to outliers in the health care field was some who chiropract & one yoga fiend who eats meat rarely enough to engender suspicion. Now Miss CC has laid out her opinions. It's up to us to convince her if we can and give her space to pursue her own road to hell if we can't.

Re: the multiple post thing, our electron-wright isn't at his best at the moment. I've been having problems for a fortnight or so. I may have broken him by using the Cryllic alphabet. For instance it's taken me 3 attempts (so far) to post this.

Miss CC, Tweeky has an abrupt choice of words. I won't apologise on his or her behalf, but I'd urge you to shelve your offence. People tend to react very strongly when discussing fields like this. Especially if they have near & dear ones affected &/or afflicted.

Please read the links. Consider the opinion of experts in the field, especially those with nothing to gain. When the best science available says A can't lead to B I suggest it'd be worth looking into.

NBlob asserts...

Posted December 28, 2013

They done gone runded orf. I guess I missed the boat.

AuntyLou mutters...

Posted December 29, 2013

I think you just did a good job of cooling down an overheated (and possibly no-win) argument. And you are right about this blog...it is nothing if not polite. And I for one am very grateful that airing an opinion doesn't get one ostracised - being the contrary cow that I am! So good on you NBlob.

NBlob would have you know...

Posted December 29, 2013

Thank you AuntyLou

One of the reasons I started hanging out here, several otherwise productive years ago, was the reasonable and respectful exchanges between Burgers holding diagrammatically opposing points of view. MckinneyTexas is one of those Unreconstructed Mao Tse Tung fans, who think the cultural revolution was a Western Imperialist Media beat up, and the Workers Paradise is just around the corner. Whereas Riech Marshal Boylan wants the western world culturally cleansed and wouldn't be agin nuking the Middle East if it facilitated access to our oil. Comrade Damian thinks the only good tree is one on a pulp ship heading for China and Havoc wants all military spending redirected to growing dope.

Or something like that.

;)

Brian asserts...

Posted December 29, 2013

Fishing must be bad up your way NBlob.

Theres such a thing as a cricket match to watch for some of us.

NBlob puts forth...

Posted December 29, 2013

You know those hot afternoons where baiting the hook seems like too much effort? That.

damian mutters...

Posted December 29, 2013

Sounds about right. Farken trees.

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Paul_Nicholas_Boylan has opinions thus...

Posted December 29, 2013

Cat - None of this matters. Tweeky doesn't know you, doesn't know us, doesn't understand that you are a cherished and honored part of this place. Lori and I love you, and stand behind you. Period.

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Posted December 29, 2013

*arches eyebrow*

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted December 29, 2013

It is a seppo thing, Ben.

damian is gonna tell you...

Posted December 29, 2013

No matter, we all can't ignore that down-south place forever after all

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Jayanthi's Atomic Cat has opinions thus...

Posted January 9, 2014

Very interesting perspective here from a Slate Magazine contributor: http://www.slate.com/articles/life/family/2014/01/growing_up_unvaccinated_a_healthy_lifestyle_couldn_t_prevent_many_childhood.html.

As a medical person, this sentence resonated with me: "If you think your child’s immune system is strong enough to fight off vaccine-preventable diseases, then it’s strong enough to fight off the tiny amounts of dead or weakened pathogens present in any of the vaccines."

I agree with the comment above that nothing in life (and medicine) is 100% safe, including vaccination. But my vote is still not to have children dying unnecessarily from preventable diseases.

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Posted January 24, 2014

I don't mean to keep adding things in here...but I found this and it's graphic. http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-mh-antivaccination-movement-20140120,0,5576371.story#axzz2r9L25Qe0

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Charlie Stross hates Bitcoin

Posted December 19, 2013 into Science and Tech by John Birmingham

Which is news because he's something of a rubfuck mascot for digital libertarians.

He has a blog post at antipope about it and a handy link farm as below:

Mining BtC has a carbon footprint from hell (as they get more computationally expensive to generate, electricity consumption soars). This essay has some questionable numbers, but the underlying principle is sound.

Bitcoin mining software is now being distributed as malware because using someone else's computer to mine BitCoins is easier than buying a farm of your own mining hardware.

Bitcoin violates Gresham's law: Stolen electricity will drive out honest mining. (So the greatest benefits accrue to the most ruthless criminals.)

Bitcoin's utter lack of regulation permits really hideous markets to emerge, in commodities like assassination (and drugs and child pornography).

It's also inherently damaging to the fabric of civil society. You think our wonderful investment bankers aren't paying their fair share of taxes? Bitcoin is pretty much designed for tax evasion. Moreover, The Gini coefficient of the Bitcoin economy is ghastly, and getting worse, to an extent that makes a sub-Saharan African kleptocracy look like a socialist utopia, and the "if this goes on" linear extrapolations imply that BtC will badly damage stable governance, not to mention redistributive taxation systems and social security/pension nets if its value continues to soar (as it seems designed to do due to its deflationary properties).

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beeso puts forth...

Posted December 19, 2013

And it will probably wither and die the minute the Chinese government get round to dealing with it.

Bangar ducks in to say...

Posted December 19, 2013

They just did

http://www.theage.com.au/business/markets/currencies/bitcoin-price-crashes-by-nearly-50-per-cent-in-china-20131219-2zls5.html

Not sure it will die, to properly kill any e currency you need to ensure you cannot exchange it for "real" money, but Isuspect even so people will give it value which is what makes money work.

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Chaz has opinions thus...

Posted December 19, 2013

He was making some interesting comments about how it was in the interests of traditional banks to sink BitCoin

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Blarkon mumbles...

Posted December 19, 2013

It's interesting to contrast's Stross' apparently libertarian view on stuff like copyright (that it's a civil matter only and not a criminal one that should be enforced & dealt with by the authorities) with his view on BitCoin (which he does seem to suggest should be banned by the authorities).

I understand his views re Bitcoin - there's a lot of stuff he agrees with that will not be funded if the tax base shrivels. I'm more perplexed by what I percieve his ideas on copyright and intellectual property - which I suspect if enacted would substantially undermine an information economy.

Advanced economies are moving away from primary and secondary industries in to ones based on services and information. Chuck out patents and copyright and no one pays for information. If information has no monetary value because it is infinitely replicable (and any figure divided by infinity is within an ants dick of zero) - how do you tax the information transactions that underpin an information economy?

Same with the "maker" stuff. If you can replicate anything with your maker device and all the plans for everything are "open source" that no one has to pay for, then you're tax base also seems to go away.

Lanier touched on this a bit in "Who Owns The Future" where he intimated that the "Information Wants To Be Free" crowd is taking an increasing amount of money out of the economy - especially as the advanced economies become more information based.

(Important to note that Stross plays with ideas like a cat does with a fluffy tinkle ball, so my interpretation of his viewpoints may be me simply misunderstanding him playing with an idea against an actual view he might hold)

damian mumbles...

Posted January 3, 2014

Not sure if it was this thread or sheer randomness, but my new year reading turned out to be Stross' <i>Neptune's Brood </i>in which he does indeed explore these topics somewhat playfully. Not sure exactly what he is saying with it, not sure the purpose is actually to say something as such versus as you say, playing.

To be honest I think the most interesting thing about the article was the comments thread full of libertarians going on about their hero Stross betraying them (some inadvertently hilariously).

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pi reckons...

Posted December 19, 2013

These same complaints could be said about cash. Or gold. The only thing that has changed is that now the transfer of wealth can happen electronically.

I'm actually part of a team that is developing a point-of-sale system for merchants in Australia that uses bitcoin as it's transaction manager. It's not the technology, and ever was, that is the issue. Some people just can't envisage a world in which banks don't control money. But this is only a relatively recent development. Until early last century, money wasn't controlled by central bankers. I can completely understand some people seeing their cash-cow being taken to the knackers, but it doesn't change the fact that people have always been able to do this stuff, it's just that now, like all things that have been touched by technology, it can be done mroe efficiently.

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tqft swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted December 19, 2013

3rd time lucky maybe

Another anti-bitcoin take https://al3x.net/2013/12/18/bitcoin.html

Particularly sticking it to the Silicon Valley attitude in some of what is going on.

"Silicon Valley has a seemingly endless capacity to mistake social and political problems for technological ones, and Bitcoin is just the latest example of this selective blindness. The underbanked will not be lifted out of poverty by conducting their meager daily business in a cryptocurrency rather than a fiat currency,"

Tax: The primary objection Stross seems to make is that it is a tax avoidance mechanism. Quite possibly. But then so are balance sheet adjustments, financial accounting, hollywood accounting. Transfer pricing. Offshore banking. Double dutch sandwich. The Australian Henry tax review a few years back contemplated some of these things. They are going to get easier in the future rather than harder. Are we going to forbid companies dealing overseas so they can't hide their income? One primary thought from the review was tax the stuff that can't be moved, hidden or finagled into non-existence. Primarily land and other hard to shift assets. Perhaps the tax system should be redesigned with a view to the future rather than being a patched up mess dealing with the latest new ways to move & hide money. We already have laws about unexplained wealth and tax avoidance. Perhaps we should use them.

That doesn't address the other issues.

Also one other problem is that for some people (think Cyprus) the financial system is seen as the problem and any good it can do is being weighed against the damage done. Another blowup like that and nothing may stop wider adoption.

Disclosure: I have btc from playing around with it in 2009 so a ginormous price would see me very happy. As it is even at whatever todays price is it is pretty good.

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Dino not to be confused with mumbles...

Posted December 19, 2013

Two Minds on this one.

Is it any worse than what we've got?

I would argue no.

Will it "improve things"?

i would argue no.

I fkn hate economics.

A physicist, a chemist and an economist end up on a desert island with nothing but tins of baked beans after a plane crash. The chemist says let's start a fire and blow open a can so we can eat. The physicist says great idea and lets build a rock pile and aim the can so we can collect the beans. The Economist says-

"Let's assume we had a can opener"

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All I want for Christmas is this glow in the dark toilet strip

Posted December 19, 2013 into Science and Tech by John Birmingham

As would any right thinking man. And the women who clean up after us.

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Barnesm would have you know...

Posted December 19, 2013

You know my mind went straight to rude things when I tried to think of other circimstances that we want a guide for where men aim their penis's, penii, what is the collective noun for dicks?

Darth Greybeard swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted December 19, 2013

The Abbott ministry?

Lulu is gonna tell you...

Posted December 19, 2013

The IPA?

Bangar puts forth...

Posted December 19, 2013

Politicians normally covers it.

Halwes swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted December 19, 2013

I believe that the collective would be a dumb of dicks.

BigWillieStyle reckons...

Posted December 20, 2013

@ Greybeard

Comment of the millennium.

Halwes ducks in to say...

Posted December 20, 2013

Why would any bloke need this? For us champion males, the whole world is our toilet.

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insomniac ducks in to say...

Posted December 19, 2013

A persuasion?

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Rob has opinions thus...

Posted December 19, 2013

oooh set phasers to fun.

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Anthony mumbles...

Posted December 19, 2013

Richards?

The Queensland Government?

The Channel 9 Footy Show?

The English Cricket Team?

The possibilities are infinite...

Dick has opinions thus...

Posted December 19, 2013

I represent that

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the camel mumbles...

Posted December 19, 2013

with all that caffeine JB, your wee probably glows in the dark anyway.

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Murphy asserts...

Posted December 19, 2013

Engorged Rippling Enormities.

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w from brisbane reckons...

Posted December 19, 2013

A waggle of dicks.

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Abe Frellman is gonna tell you...

Posted December 19, 2013

I'm working on a cultivar of asparagus that makes your piss glow red ...the perfect accompaniment.

Murphy is gonna tell you...

Posted December 20, 2013

Won't that lead to some prick pissing in a glass and calling it wine to his drunken mates?

Or worse, some crack about being Jesus and turning water into wine?

Respects,

Murph

On the Outer Marches

Abe Frellman has opinions thus...

Posted December 20, 2013

Yes, the possibilities are seemingly endless!

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Quokka swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted December 19, 2013

This has caused argument in Casa Q.

The bloke insists the correct term is 'a cockhole full of dicks' but I'm convinced 'Austereo'.

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Shell asserts...

Posted December 19, 2013

The women who what?!?!

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WarDog reckons...

Posted December 20, 2013

It's clearly missing the landing light progression down into the depths of the bowl.

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BigWillieStyle is gonna tell you...

Posted December 20, 2013

There's an episode of "Curb Your Enthusiasm" where Larry David announces that he sits down, woman-style, when he takes a pee. I gave it a go myself, and I'm here to tell you, it works a treat. Negates the need for a radioactive dunny strip, tempting though it looks.

I'm never going back to standing.

NBlob swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted December 20, 2013

But there is all that de-pantsing? I'm an important, busy man with much to do, I can't hang around all day removing belt & boxers.

A zip, a flumpf, a whizz, tuck away and we're done.

I think this a great boon to mankind of either gender.

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insomniac mutters...

Posted December 20, 2013

There are tubular devices that you can attach to the toilet bowl for placing your ... ah ... equipment in, so as to prevent it from touching the sides of the bowl and being all unhygenic like

Dino not to be confused with would have you know...

Posted December 20, 2013

Yeah , and I am sure Havock suffers much more than I, how do ya stop ya knob getting wet when ya sit down.

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Dino not to be confused with ducks in to say...

Posted December 20, 2013

When I was a little kid I used to see tobacco stained fingers and moustaches usually with stains, unmentionable stains, on 'slacks' from the groin to the knee.

Now that I am older, so much older, I say to that "little me" STFU.

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Future Splodey: WoC tech

Posted December 18, 2013 into Science and Tech by John Birmingham

Thanks to Orin for hooking me up with this vid which seems to grabbed a few ideas from WoC. (Or maybe I just stole them from DARPA).

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Dino not to be confused with mumbles...

Posted December 18, 2013

Ok I'll Bite.

About 3 years ago in our backyard we saw something like a cross between a cicada and a matchbox car. Up close 400mm visual on garden plant.

It looked like an insect, 'cept for the colouring(pigment not refracted), it flew like an insect(obviously evolution had little time for this beast) but a little 'strangley'.

But we are pretty sure it wasn't an insect.

I saw it first then it came back a couple of hours later.

I could be more descriptive but I would have to "kill you afterwards" and that

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Nocturnalist swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted December 18, 2013

wot no servo-skulls

But yeah, cheers for that. Pretty sure my next protagonist is going to be a drone operator, so all this is very handy.

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Ozsmurf swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted December 18, 2013

Looks pretty cool, though I think of the bit in the Zombie Survivaval Guide when panic spreads through all the linked troops. Cyber warfare would be pretty freaky if someone can hack the IFF system and turn friends into foes.

System crash in the middle of a fire fight would also give a new meaning to blue screen of death.

Ozsmurf mumbles...

Posted December 18, 2013

Oops - book version of World War Z - not Zombie Survival Guide - my bad.

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Barnesm asserts...

Posted December 19, 2013

I expected more scenes of Bigdog haunting the battlefield and eating human flesh to power its servos.

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Sudragon mutters...

Posted December 19, 2013

Bandwidth:- how much bandwidth will it take to share all this data around? to control those drones?

Jamming/hacking:- How easy will it be to crash these battlefield networks? (why do the Americans always seem to thing they will have the tech advantage?). I keep hearing stories about non-nuke EMP devices that are easy to make. what effect will this have?

Electromagnetic Sigature:- I remember seeing on thinkgeek a t-shirt with a wireless lan logo that lit up to show signal strength. If your average infantry squad is running a battlefield network, they might stand out like a sore thumb on the EM spectrum. If they spend most of the time with it turned off, whats the pooint of carrying it?

Support:- all that whiz bang stuff will use electricity. wether it's batteries or fuel cells or something else, it still needs to be supplied, and sill increases the weight your infantryman is carrying, which has been somewhere in the reigon of Too Much for years now.

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Heavy metal

Posted December 16, 2013 into Science and Tech by John Birmingham

I am as guilty as anybody of thinking of Samsung as nothing more than a phone pirate. Probably more so. But of course they're much more than that. They also steal vacuum cleaner designs!

Kidding, kidding. Well, no, not really kidding. They actually do steal vacuum cleaner designs. From poor Professor Dyson, no less.

But they also do heavy engineering. Like massively heavy engineering, of the sort really only seen in The Thunderbirds, or maybe Pacific Rim. Improbably huge, monstrously heavy metal juggernauts of the sort that Shell commissioned to work the liquid natural gas fields off the North West shelf.

This beast is called the Prelude and will be holding station in one of the most active cyclone areas on the planet for over twenty-five years. It won't be hauling up anchors and hiding in port when a category five storm rolls through. It will just sit there smirking, "Come at me, bro." According to the PR chaff the Prelude will supply enough LNG each year to power a city the size of Hong Kong. This is the first of these vessels, but now they have the template down, apparently they're just going to roll 'em off the line like mobile phones. (Mobile phones which look strangely familiar. Can't put my finger on why.)

Anyway, I love this stuff.

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Brian swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted December 16, 2013

The really interesting thing about these vessels are the insulated holds. Knocked my socks off when I found out they were built around wooden panels - I kid you not. Wood because it's almost thermally neutral. It doesn't expand and contract as much as other materials. Quality control on the holds is space engineering quality. I wouldn't be surprised if the materials aren't out of China ( they're knocking out local build LPG ships like hell . . .sto . .err acquired the tech from Finland. Lloyd's do the QA check on them.)

Alas . . .i shall have to buy Samsung phones here on out, even the new Apple 5c screens are too small for my fumbling fingers and failing eyesight.

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Dick puts forth...

Posted December 16, 2013

Saw the time lapse fillum of them floating this thing. Amazing pictures. Longer than the empire state building is tall by a fair margin.

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John Birmingham reckons...

Posted December 16, 2013

I reckon you could sell tickets for a 'ride' on this thing when a big cyclone blows through.

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Murphy mumbles...

Posted December 16, 2013

South Korea has a significant shipbuilding industry. They've also been fielding their own helicopter carriers which could be converted to use F-35Bs in the future.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ROKS_Dokdo_(LPH-6111)

Respects,

Murph

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pi puts forth...

Posted December 16, 2013

Big as things are, bigger things get level'd in big storms, and especially with lots of things around that want 'bang'... and not in a good way.

Had some friends that went for a swim when this sucker went down.

http://articles.latimes.com/1991-08-16/news/mn-609_1_hong-kong

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Barnesm has opinions thus...

Posted December 16, 2013

any one else concerned that this thing is called ' Prelude' definition "an action or event serving as an introduction to something more important".

except in the case of the car the Honda Prelude that was folowed by nothing of significance.

Given how big this thing is I am worried what is to follow 'the prelude'.

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ShaneAlpha reckons...

Posted December 16, 2013

Fk it, I'm stickin a LNG fueled rocket motor on the back of that baby, that should get me into orbit!

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Surtac reckons...

Posted December 16, 2013

Reminds me of the time I was visiting Hitachi Data Systems in Santa Clara in the 90s, looking at competing mainframe suppliers. It was pre-CMOS technology at the high end and the MOSFET chips of the time had real heat issues. Both HDS and Amdahl iirc had gone back to self-contained liquid cooling (IBM still used external chilled water) from air cooling solutions.

Anyway, the HDS dude was showing me the new machines and talking up their new cooling system. “Of course you need to have reliable pumps to drive this stuff (sterilised water) around. Being part of Hitachi, we just had to ask our colleagues in the nuclear powerplant division to nominate a suitable unit.” Snappy sales patter to be sure, but an effective reminder of just how big and generally capable some of the major Asian companies are.

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Chaz would have you know...

Posted December 16, 2013

Personally I don't understand why it isn't submersible....

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John Birmingham would have you know...

Posted December 16, 2013

OK. Dino wins this thread.

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HAVOCK21 swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted December 16, 2013

gimmie a fkn TOW missile or a fkn Javelin!......

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Abe Frellman mutters...

Posted December 16, 2013

I've heard many stories from panic-stricken government officials (rightly) worrying about the end of the mining construction boom in recent years, like when a bunch of pre-fabricated Korean wharves that appeared literally overnight in the Pilbara caused a rethink of how labour-intensive is the supposedly labour-intensive phase of the boom. But this takes it to another level.

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Abe Frellman would have you know...

Posted December 16, 2013

I've heard many stories from panic-stricken government officials (rightly) worrying about the end of the mining construction boom in recent years, like when a bunch of pre-fabricated Korean wharves that appeared literally overnight in the Pilbara caused a rethink of how labour-intensive is the supposedly labour-intensive phase of the boom. But this takes it to another level.

pi is gonna tell you...

Posted December 17, 2013

Personally I think building massive industrial structures that end up getting abandoned when the resources in the area decline is a worse allocation of resources.

Abe Frellman swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted December 17, 2013

I agree. But it means that we need to be wary of the mining industry saying, "look how much we invest - and how many people get jobs- during the construction phase...there's no need for a mining profits tax".

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Lobes ducks in to say...

Posted December 16, 2013

Most ships have their size dictated by the need to fit through the Panama canal. The so called 'Panamax' is the biggest size with less than 10m clearance either side when it goes through I think. These vessels have no such restrictions on their size so it may well be this is just the prelude to larger things.

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Posted December 17, 2013

Imagine if that thing was tasked with doing something useful like brewing beer. The world woul be a far happier place.

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