Cheeseburger Gothic

Playing with the slider

Posted May 6, 2013 into Science and Tech by John Birmingham

Those of you coming here via the desktop will be familiar with the slider up top. Many consider them naff, but I do luvs me a good slider. They're an excellent way to resolve the tension on a busy site between between what's new and what's good. (Good, in the opinion of the site, anyway).

It's easy to forget that the vast majority of Burgers are not as we know them. They're quiet, timid souls, lurking out of sight and earshot lest they be stomped beneath the ironshod boots of a rampaging Havoc, or mocked near to death by a cold and calculating Lobes. And of these lurkers nearly a third are new visitors. They know nothing of the Burger's history. The entries that slip off the front page are as unknown to them as Greybeard's youth is to antiquity.

I had Dan run up the slider so that some of the older entries could be placed before them, for their consideration. Also there are stories I want to keep around a little longer than the day or so it takes to disappear off the home page. The weekly book extract for example.

The next few weeks, I'll be searching back thru the archive to see what I might dig up every now and then. Hence, we see Lana Del Rey's purdy face up there right now. If anybody has any old faves they'd like to see briefly return, gimme the nod. The more practice I get pulling stuff out of the archives and reformatting it for the new layout, the better.

And on that issue of arriving by desktop (the slider doesn't appear in mobile), I thought some of the pointier headed nerdlingers out there might be interested in some stats.

Of last month's 23 678 visits, 8303 came in via mobile. Of those 3509 joined us via an iPhone, and 2955 arrived on an iPad. This is a little under the usual share of web traffic attributed to iOS, but not much.

The next most popular device? The Samsung Galaxy SII, but they were a looooong way behind. A very loooooooong way.

I did have a couple of visitors rockin' a Blackberry in the launch month. But they appear to gone away.

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Spanner is gonna tell you...

Posted May 6, 2013

Ok 4th blog post of the day. Don't you have something more important to be doing? Like finishing / editing the next installment of Stalin's Hammer. Where is the book?

PS I quite like the slider.

John Birmingham ducks in to say...

Posted May 6, 2013

Ah, my fu looks strong, Spanner, but I can write these posts over the weekend and set them to deply later.

Not comments though. I am totally here wasting time with this now.

John Birmingham reckons...

Posted May 6, 2013

'Deply'?

Man, I gotta get an edit function here.

HAVOCK21 would have you know...

Posted May 6, 2013

You so fkn do before I cap ya fkn arse!

Bunyip puts forth...

Posted May 6, 2013

An edit function would be greatly appreciated. Do we all get to edit Havock's posts? Asking for a reptilian aquaintance.

insomniac is gonna tell you...

Posted May 7, 2013

"deply" is a perfectly cromulent word

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Barnesm would have you know...

Posted May 6, 2013

I like the slider, and the recent comments down the side.

I never thought about the lurkers as being Cheeseburgers before, but you are right even those that don't comment shouldn't be ignored. Unless they start coming out with completely ridiculous comments like "the star wars prequels were better than the originals" or "if Firefly was any good they'd have made more than one season".

DrYobbo swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted May 7, 2013

If Firefly was any good they'd have made more than one season. I can't see anything in this statement which is not factual.

Barnesm ducks in to say...

Posted May 7, 2013

AAARRRRRRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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w from brisbane asserts...

Posted May 6, 2013

Including archive favourites is a great idea. If possible, for the retro, I would like the year included on the posted date. Just says, Posted July 20.

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tqft would have you know...

Posted May 6, 2013

If you are brave you could try dredging up old posts relevant to the topic de jour and see how they hold up.

My beef is following comments. If I say something no real way to check if anyone has replied other than digging all the way in. Yes you can see the most comments but no way to tell if relevant. Not sure there is an answer.

I need to go add something to the all you can eat tv thread - I j-ust hope people see it.

John Birmingham puts forth...

Posted May 6, 2013

Following comments is always a compromise. You always have to choose how to display them, and in choosing you gain some things and lose others. With the nested comment system we have no, for instance, you can more easily follow conversations within the thread, but those conversations now break the thread up into islands of discussion, rather than the long, meandering trails they once were.

Both ways have their advantages and disadvantages. I've become used to following discussions via the comment list to the right. Before Dan coded the list to take us to the comments, however, it was impossible to do this.

tqft would have you know...

Posted May 6, 2013

I think I have made progress. Now a 2 step progress - click the link for the comment and then make it refresh and it takes me to the comment.

Why? No idea, maybe to do with version of firefox/seamonkey.

I will try chromium in a minute and see if that makes a difference. If I come up with anything useful I will email Dan.

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Dave W puts forth...

Posted May 6, 2013

I view via desktop during the day and from SII at other times. There's a good reason for this, but not anything that I'd make explicit to anyone monitoring my keystrokes.

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Dilph ducks in to say...

Posted May 6, 2013
As one of the Silent Burgers, I figured I should check in for my ritualized mocking... I just had to make sure I had enough bacon in my pockets to make sure Havock is easily distracted...

John Birmingham would have you know...

Posted May 6, 2013

OMFG! Run! Go! before Lobes sees you!

Dilph mutters...

Posted May 6, 2013

Bah. Why flee before a fellow pork afficionado? There's plenty for everyone. Or at least, this is a plenty big enough side of bacon to be used as a club, and having enough pork for everyone still conscious is almost the same thing...

damian mumbles...

Posted May 6, 2013

I'm definitely sure that someone mentioned bacon.

HAVOCK21 swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted May 6, 2013

FKN A!!!!

HAVOCK21 mutters...

Posted May 6, 2013

close.Funbags and Pork....and guns, noiw thats a serve WORTHY of a fkn god and being distracted

Lobes mumbles...

Posted May 7, 2013

You sound fat

oink oink piggie

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Therbs asserts...

Posted May 6, 2013

Just steer clear of any Treeman derp please. Be interesting to put in an old JSpace entry plus comments so we could play 'whatever happened to...'. Maybe one when Without Warning was in gestation.

John Birmingham puts forth...

Posted May 6, 2013

I'm afraid the JSpace archive is lost to time and the National Library.

HAVOCK21 swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted May 6, 2013

yeah, some turd is gunna but hung fkn drawn and cut ta fkn ribbons in this life or the next!..prolly the fkn next I reckon!

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beeso asserts...

Posted May 6, 2013

I wrote one of the best bits of writing I ever did on j space. Would've happily lost the rest of it, but damn I miss that post.

The blackberry users probably became extinct.

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damian has opinions thus...

Posted May 6, 2013

I'd be surprised if mine showed up as my phone model. Firefox for Android, I'd imagine. Actually when I was using Dolphin I think I had it telling servers it was IE8

NBlob reckons...

Posted May 6, 2013

I was impressed that JB's dark arts could tell what platform Burgers were using & You're spoofing?

You know that thing, when you don't know there is a thing, then you find out not only that the thing exsists, but also that someone else can make that thing sit up, beg, rollover & quote Orwell? Like that.

damian swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted May 7, 2013

It isn't really a dark art - web browsers tell web servers what they are via a standard header, and the servers use this information potentially to customise the page they send back. Many web sites, for instance, pick up on the fact you're using a browser version for a mobile OS and present you with a "mobile" version of their site. This behaviour is not always optimal, and it can be handy to tell a web site that you're using a desktop OS, just to stop it doing that. Several browsers (or browser plug-ins) make this pretty easy.


Going a bit further back (IE6 days), sites were often designed for IE and some servers would actually be configured to refuse to act normally unless your broswer told them it was IE. So one upshot is that in all versions of firefox you could set the User Agent string to whatever you like. This isn't really "spoofing", it's just configuring a configurable part of your browser.

There are sites that show you what information your browser is sending...

damian mutters...

Posted May 7, 2013

Oh yeah and: "some servers would actually be configured to refuse to act normally unless your broswer told them it was IE"

Orificeworks, I'm looking at you! You lost many sales to me in the late 90s/early 2000s as a result of this behaviour.

NBlob mumbles...

Posted May 7, 2013

I feel like I'm being told by John Snow about the Cholera epidemic in 1849.

So my machine, sends a request to a server for a page. Embedded in that request is a packet that identifies who, where & what I'm using. I guess I see that optimising the experience for format or software is high end fu. Is it just me or does that seem a little excessive use of bandwidth?

tqft mutters...

Posted May 7, 2013

Apply tinfoil hat before using this site

https://panopticlick.eff.org/

At least the EFF are the good guys

damian reckons...

Posted May 8, 2013

Bob, this sort of header text is as nothing compared to the gumph just involved in marking up formatting the way a web page appears and stuff. The User Agent header was normal in the days of dialup. These days we regard web pages to be normal, where just the style sheets would make use over dialup impractical. Not to mention the client-side javascript, where you effectively download a whole application each time you open a web page.

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w from brisbane reckons...

Posted May 6, 2013

Samsung Galaxy users, being discerning people, probably prefer award-winning blogs.

John Birmingham mumbles...

Posted May 6, 2013

I suppose the vanishingly small number of such users would account for the lack of comments at these so called award winning blogs.

w from brisbane would have you know...

Posted May 6, 2013

They do move to the award winning blogs, but who could blame them for falling asleep while reading them.

HAVOCK21 puts forth...

Posted May 6, 2013

we can, its fkn desertion in the face of the fkn ENEMY and they should be TURNED..into PINK FKN MIST!

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Darth Greybeard reckons...

Posted May 6, 2013

Oh well played Mr w from b (pauses to look for awards...not a sausage).

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robW is gonna tell you...

Posted May 6, 2013

My only comment is that the banner comes across frequently with big blanks in it. No doubt that's because some of the images are named 'banner...' + something, and my Privoxy proxy thinks that's an advertisement and blocks it. So, the slider looks somewhat like a storefront with missing windows.

I know, I know, advertising is the life blood of the Internet. In my defense, however, advertising isn't just advertising any more. In 1975 advertising meant sticking a picture of a cowboy enjoying a cigarette on the side of a road or in a magazine. Today on the Internet advertising means planting a cookie or "shared data" (love that euphemism) on the computer and following someone around. Back in 1975 or 1985 or 1995 and maybe even 2005 that was called stalking or spying, not advertising. Today the cadres of Orwellian marketeers insist on calling it advertising and market intelligence.

So, if you want to reach those of us to *try* (no matter how feebly) to avoid the stalkers, avoid marketing buzzwords like "banner" in image names. . . .but I know I'm an outlier here, so maybe not!

John Birmingham mumbles...

Posted May 6, 2013

Interesting. I'll ask Dan about that.

pi ducks in to say...

Posted May 7, 2013

> My only comment is that the banner comes across frequently with big blanks in it.

That definitely doesn't happen to me. I run in in Chrome on Linux and Windows, and Opera on Galaxy 2s

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DrYobbo ducks in to say...

Posted May 7, 2013

I opened this post hoping to hear more about the red eared slider turtle. Not for the first time, you have disappointed me Burninghams.

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pi asserts...

Posted May 7, 2013

I be one of the galaxy noobs.

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w from brisbane has opinions thus...

Posted May 7, 2013

The recent comments is working really well. Well done. I particularly like the expanded listing. One odd thing, if it is a comment on a comment, mostly 'Recent Comments' shows the author as the primary commenter, rather than the actual commenter. This can be confusing.

Though sometimes, it doesn't do that.

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JG mumbles...

Posted May 7, 2013

I like the current setup. I notice that many comments are shorter on the new Burger, but that's a good thing. I'm glad there are levels in the comments section as it encourages everyone to put their two bits in, without having to write thinky essays. More conversational. A friendlier vibe, I feel.

This is good, John and Dan. Only improvement would be to see more of who has been commenting recently. At the moment, I can only see two at a time on the right sidebar. Don't think I'll join in on the Gone Girl bookclub discussion this Friday as I'm only a quarter of the way through it. Not really that into it.

Joanna

w from brisbane mumbles...

Posted May 7, 2013

On my desktop, on entry to CBG, the most recent comments lists the latest 8. Once I click on a recent comment, the recent comments expands to list the last 24.

JG mutters...

Posted May 7, 2013

Lucky for you, w. I'm on a MacBook Air (11"). The comments list expands when I click on a recent comment, so that's the way I view who's been posting what of late.

Dino not to be confused with swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted May 7, 2013

Indi' You've my dream computer!

Oh Air,

Thou art fair and Rare !

JG would have you know...

Posted May 8, 2013

My sign is air too. I'm a Gemini.

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clarebear has opinions thus...

Posted May 7, 2013

I'm one of those sad timid folk of which you speak - probably pop in here once a week (usually alerted by twitter) to enjoy JBs commentary on our world and enjoy the repartee. Not so keen on stuff about fantasy sci fi and games - like soak up the wit and wisdom. If I were smart I would make you the home page - but I'm a sucker for my facebook!

Oh and I do like the new look around here.

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Dino not to be confused with asserts...

Posted May 7, 2013

JB,

Sliders(show was ok too) are great.

I like that you can show case interesting archives.

Also pull out relevant topics for additional comments / analysis.

And they are colourful!

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NBlob asserts...

Posted May 9, 2013

Interesting choice of past copy to feature in the slider.

The "Man Up, Self" piece is not the best of times, but it certainly features some of the blurst of times.

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w from brisbane puts forth...

Posted May 10, 2013

I would like a home button at the top. Following the recent comments can leave one a long way from home, disoriented.

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w from brisbane puts forth...

Posted May 10, 2013

Oh, that square picture beside CATEGORIES is the Home button. I should have guessed that.

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CathieT mutters...

Posted May 14, 2013

Huzzah! It would appear that I can finally log in as moi! (Without Dan's assistance either, Indigo!)

I like the sliders - I have missed a few posts in Burgerland, and I don't mind chewing on randomly regurgitated content.

And I'll show up as on my PC (/sigh) not the iThingies most times, 'cause the writing's bigger!

Oh - there is one other thing that's not quite right on here .... a few posts back it says "Havock21 mutters". Like THAT'S ever going to happen! /blows mwaah at Havock!

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I think I'm gonna need a scanner

Posted May 4, 2013 into Science and Tech by John Birmingham

One of the things I wanted to do when I relaunched the good ship Burger was dig up some of the pre-digital stories I'd written and republish them here, pushing them out into the ether where, barring global catastrophe or googledeath, they'd probably be available forever.

I quickly realised I'd need to invest in a scanner. I got no interest in sitting here reading my old bits-n-pieces into Dragon Dictate.

The last scanner I owned, however, back in the 90s, had set me back a couple of grand, and then another thousand or so for the OCR software. I knew things had come along since then. A fifty buck all-in-one printer would probably destroy the specs on my old stand alone model. (I bought it to enter text from journal articles when researching Leviathan).

Still, due diligence time. I headed off to The Wirecutter and did my research. Seemed that an article entitled "The Best Budget Flatbed Scanner Is the Canon CanoScan LiDE 210" would meet my needs. But reading through the copy I discovered the software was arse. And without good OCR I have no reason to hand over the folding stuff.

As a stop gap I bought an app for my iPwn, Perfect OCR, which did a better job of scanning and recognising a couple of pages from Off One's Tits than the old dedicated rig could ever have managed. But like all of us, I've been roooned by modern tech. Because it didn't work perfectly, because there was a bit of faffing around with the image capture – because yeah, my swollen sense of entitlement now expects my fucking phone to be able to take a fucking photo of a book and turn it into a perfect text file. What am I living in 1950s Albania now? – because I had to do some editing of the resulting text...

OMFG! EDITING!

... I'm thinking I might still need to go out and drop a few dollars on a half decent flatbed scanner. A pity, because I'm enjoying the wide open spaces on my desktop after having got rid of that ratbastard HP all-in-one.

Anyways. Below is the copy I scanned from an old, yellowing copy of Tits. A fave. With a special guest appearance by 'Captain' Barnes.

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DrYobbo mumbles...

Posted May 4, 2013

Answered my question below, if I'd been arsed to read this first...

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damian mumbles...

Posted May 4, 2013

That's the thing though... you friggin' PHONE can now do a much better job of turning your old stuff into a document than the entire digital scanning setup of the Library of Congress could a handful of years ago. This is serious stuff.

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NBlob mumbles...

Posted May 4, 2013
Mmm, love a good caption.

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jcdmusing puts forth...

Posted May 4, 2013

If you have a google account you can get google drive (used to be google docs) to do OCR and convert text from an uploaded jpg or PDF file and give you an editable google word document. I've done this with photos of receipts taken by my iPhone 4S and it worked reasonably well.

John Birmingham mutters...

Posted May 4, 2013

Thanks Jeff! I'll try that.

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Adam would have you know...

Posted May 4, 2013

OT. Has anyone noticed the date today? It's International Star Wars Day. May the fourth be with you.

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Bstar is gonna tell you...

Posted May 4, 2013

OMFG! EDITING!

A few years ago I got paid to OCR scan old and out of print books. While the program I used came with the scanner and have an 85% successful read/scan per page (even with old 1880-1900 fonts), the EDITING was a killer, for while the words were right, all the paragrpahs were clumped together! It was usually 30% scanning and 70% of the time editing the canned document, and making sure it matched up to the page, even with odd spelling! After completeing 20 books this way, I told my boss I was DONE!

Now the sadistic man gets his kids to do it...for free! I pity them!

John Birmingham has opinions thus...

Posted May 4, 2013

An 85% sucess rate is arse. That would leave you with hours of editing to do.

Bstar would have you know...

Posted May 5, 2013

I did say it was a few years ago John, and with the very old books I was handingm I'm amazed it was that high!

John Birmingham is gonna tell you...

Posted May 5, 2013

Ah, good point. Under those circumstances 85% is a great result.

Bstar puts forth...

Posted May 5, 2013

After think on this John, I must admit the first time I completed a full book scan, both OCR and pictures (the book was from the 1890's, it was over 200 pages and took nearly three weeks to do), then to see it reprinted and back on the shelves, was an exciting time, plus I felt I was helping to preserve history by bringing such an old book back on the shelves for all to read!

It was only later, once I got used to doing OCR, and with bigger books (when I was OCR scanning between 6-8 hours a day every second day) to do. The average time to do a book grew up to two months (including editing) that I grew frustrated at the 85% scanning rate.

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damian is gonna tell you...

Posted May 4, 2013

There are several Android apps I've tried, and with a couple of which I've had great success. "PDF Scanner" is one, no idea if there's an iPorn version...

Bunyip has opinions thus...

Posted May 4, 2013

Ta Damo. Will check that out.

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Barnesm asserts...

Posted May 4, 2013

I am still waiting for a science tricorder like the ones in star trek, surely they are just around the corner. Star Trek into Darkness is, it opens in Australia on Wendesday night at IMAx.

Somehow I have managed to marry a woman who is willing to accompnay the Weapon and I to a double screening in IMAX of StarTrek the 2009 movie followed by Startrek into Darkness on Mothers Day.

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tqft swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted May 4, 2013

His eminence has no minions? Don't you have kids? Or arent they allowed in the lair of world domination?

If you don't need one, just take yourself to somewhere where this one unless you expect to be doing this at 2am.

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yankeedog asserts...

Posted May 4, 2013

Scanning has come a LONG way. First scanner I had took up half the desk. Now they're tiny things. Which is good, because that means more room for a 3D printer!

Sudragon has opinions thus...

Posted May 5, 2013

Speaking of which, hows 3D scanner tech coming along?

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Murphy ducks in to say...

Posted May 4, 2013

Quicker for me to transcribe it.

Of course, I can't transcribe your material because I'm halfway across the planet. But if it were me, I'd transcribe.

Respects,

Murph

On the Outer Marches

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Legless puts forth...

Posted May 5, 2013

I'm pretty sure that ABBYY FineReader comes with a lot of scanners. I've always found it pretty good. Well, at scanning single sheets of text and converting them to Word or PDF. Around 99% accuracy I was getting.But it's shit at scanning books when you have a spine to contend with.

Cheers

Bstar ducks in to say...

Posted May 5, 2013

You are so right Legless, Hard cover books were the worst, but with books generally the great fear was wreaking the book's spine when setting.it on the scanner and closing the scanner lid, it might of happened to me once...or twice

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One for the Space Lizard

Posted April 30, 2013 into Science and Tech by John Birmingham

I always found the Samsung 'sheeple' ads to be a bit try hard and sad, but this little number from Nokia sort of fucking nails it.

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HAVOCK21 swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted April 30, 2013

OKAY!

THAT

FKN

ROCKS!. fkn laughed me arse off, especially the bit where the JB look alike rips open the t shirt to reveal the APPLE tat on the chest and promptly has his fkn arse kicked...fkn ripper clip!

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Barnesm ducks in to say...

Posted April 30, 2013

I so want to deleiver an "auto correct this" punch, but it is usually to the word program on my work computer.

great stuff.

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Blarkon asserts...

Posted April 30, 2013

I did love the Apple tattoo on that guy.

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JG swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted April 30, 2013
You reckon he's a JB look alike, Hav? I don't think so. Too hairy. Yes, the Apple tatt is cool.

HAVOCK21 mumbles...

Posted April 30, 2013

I'll bite!

HOW do you KNOW he is too hairy to be JB..aside from the dome?

JG swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted April 30, 2013

I don't, snapper, but JB doesn't have straggly long hair and a beard. So, YOU know, do you, Hav. Just how hairy is JB on his other bits? No, no, I don't want to know. Really. I see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil. Away, naked images in head.

John Birmingham puts forth...

Posted April 30, 2013

I have hair to spare.

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flinthart is gonna tell you...

Posted April 30, 2013

Win! Except... I didn't see a Samsung flip-phone anywhere!

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MickH puts forth...

Posted April 30, 2013

LOZ

All it needed was an android robot to roll into the affray

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Blarkon mutters...

Posted April 30, 2013

Droid has a bad motivator. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hbp41_vlX0

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DrYobbo reckons...

Posted April 30, 2013

Some kwality droid rage on JB's Arsebook feed re his Attendly post. That's gold medal

John Birmingham is gonna tell you...

Posted April 30, 2013

Ah, the satisfaction of a hitjob well done.

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Barnesm has opinions thus...

Posted April 30, 2013

and haven't we all suffered these torments at one time

http://www.buzzfeed.com/lukelewis/middle-class-problems

John Birmingham puts forth...

Posted April 30, 2013

I love that buzzfeed one.

Barnesm would have you know...

Posted April 30, 2013

I would have thought it was cutting your finger on the soufle ramakin.

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Therbs mumbles...

Posted April 30, 2013

Having this day acquired a new 5 I be laughing out loud, or as I have just learnt, lol-ing.

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tqft swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted April 30, 2013
A new phone is one of those things I need. Current one was semi-retired in 2007 and pulled out last year when the "new" one started having battery issues

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Printers. Just...omfg... printers

Posted April 21, 2013 into Science and Tech by John Birmingham

On and off I've just spent the better part of a day farnarkling around with a laser printer install. A Brother HL-2270 DW. I suppose if I'd just sat my arse down for a concentrated three or four hours of frustration and shoutiness I might have wrapped it up earlier, but I had other jobs to attend to.

I've been looking for a home office printer for over a year now. Lost track of the number of cheap arse junky ink jets I've gone through and abandoned because spending a hundred bucks on ink cartridges that run out after a month of moderate use just got old. I even dropped four or five hundred on a lower mid-range Hewlett Packard all-in-one that had good reviews. It just fucking broke with a crunching sound one day. No fucking idea why.

Anyway, I've had a contract needed printing and signing. Tried to talk them into accepting a signed PDF from my iPad, which is becoming more common here in Oz, but this was an American law firm, and they were old school.

Paper, and only paper.

After one final arse raping I decided to give up on ink jets. They're a fucking scam and they hurt my bottom. Part of me longed for an antique Apple laser printer. One of the ancient models that used to retail for about five grand. But the rational part of me went to thewirecutter.com and looked up their recommended pick. The Brother 2270.

Tried buying it online, but the delivery went awry. (Reminds me I have to chase up that refund).

So, much disgruntled I drove into nearest Harvey Norman (I know, I cringe with shame to write it) and found it on sale at a steep discount. Fuck me, a lucky break.

And then the hands on fun started. The driver software on the disc was out of date. The download from the Brother site wouldn't ... er... well it just wouldn't. There was no cable, which I sort of expected. But all my spare ethernet cables seemed to be invisible to the machine. For a while I seriously considered a trip to the Apple store to buy a new retina Macbook and whatever the fucking genius said would work with it. But that was just the junky in me look for a comfort purchase.

Luckily I found an old USB 2.0 cord in my stash and that seemed to work. A few more hits on the download site shook free a working driver. I now have a cheap working monochrome laser printer.

But I do wonder whether the printer market is broken and waiting to be disrupted in the arse.

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Jacques Stahl mumbles...

Posted April 21, 2013

Ah, Blunty, you do know how to touch on the issues that hurt! I held off for 8 years buying another printer, I consider them a work of marketing evil. No sooner have you bought the latest model for some ridiculously cheap price than you realise the ink replacement will cost the equivalent of your mortgage payments (or latter day electricity bills), that is if they are still in the catalogue.

However, just last month I was forced by circumstance to finally relent and after a fruitless visit to Officeworks I deigned to visit the devil's lair of HN and purchased an Epson. Surprisingly, the set up went well and have manged both wireless printing and even remote printing via email.

This weekend ran out of black ink, so back to the same HN store - no stock of that model cartridge and none expected any time soon.

Back to the cellar.

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Bangar asserts...

Posted April 21, 2013

Laser is the only way to go, my HP 1020 is still ticking away nicely, with a spare cartridge ready to go. I thought it'd be Apple all the way JB you should know Apple doesn't play well with others ;)

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John Birmingham has opinions thus...

Posted April 21, 2013

AFAIK there are no Apple printers anymore.

MickH reckons...

Posted April 21, 2013

The last apple printer I had was a dot matrix jobby with the perferated paper. It used to scare the cat and wake the baby when ever we fired it up. (we had to put coal in a little shute on the side) :)

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MickH mumbles...

Posted April 21, 2013

How come you're not at supernova?

:D

John Birmingham mumbles...

Posted April 21, 2013

You assume I have a life.

MickH would have you know...

Posted April 21, 2013

Oh Sorry.

:)

I've just recently got one so I thought of thought so did everyone else.

Me and the Mrs just spent a glorious afternoon in gold class watching Oblivion

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Posted April 21, 2013

I've got a HP office jet all in one. sounds like yours. Its working fine at the moment.

I've also got a samsung colour laser which needs a new dum thingy and an old zerox (wow was it ever fun to find a windows 8 driver for that!) that needs new toner. I was going to look at an $80 mono laser from Office works this week.

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tqft mutters...

Posted April 21, 2013

Fuck Lexmark.

After the old canon printer died (and I mean old - 2nd hand to me in 2000) 2 years ago. I got a Lexmark ink jet. Work for 3 months (about 5 photos). Dead weight useless piece of crap with stupid machine consuming drivers. Printer head error. The bug is still open with them - they admit the problem but done nothing (why they have the money).

I hate printers. While the data is in the machine it is just some applied quantum field theory and all is happy. Try and actualize it - pzzzzt. Always have hated printers (but like books).

Anyone want to buy me a printer and install it for me? Will pay in bitcoins.

MickH has opinions thus...

Posted April 21, 2013

yeah,

went down the lexmark path there for a while too. Found it was cheaper to replace the whole machine than buy the cartridges. what a waste of resources.

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Blarkon mumbles...

Posted April 21, 2013

Microsoft Surface. Connected to my home Wifi. Said "find printer". Finds printer. Automatically goes out to the Internet and downloads and installs printer. Setup time - about 5 seconds.

That's the way it works on Windows 8 now. For all the crap it's gotten in the press - Microsoft hosts Windows 8 printer drivers for printers in the cloud - which means no more using disks or downloading software from the vendor's website. The vendor just sends them to Microsoft and updates them when necessary.

Apple should do the same thing. Detect device & automatically retrieve driver from the Internet.

It's not that printers need disrupting. It's that you need to have a word to your mate Tim Cook.

Could be worse. Could be trying to set up a printer under Android.

MickH asserts...

Posted April 21, 2013

Almost bought the surface, till we found it ran some aborted shrunken down version of windows 8. We boght a samsung instead that has the full version.

I have windows 8 on the main PC as well now. I should put your claim to the test, I have a Xerox laser printer that was a bitch to set up on windows 7 (I see no real difference between the 2 operating systems) So I will connect it up and see if it will 'find printer'

Blarkon asserts...

Posted April 22, 2013

MSFT has done a poor job explaining RT versus 8. In a nutshell, RT is 8 on another processor architecture. Like Windows Server 200x on Itanium - same Windows - but you need software written for the processor architecture.

The reason for RT is that System On Chip (SOC) is a likely path for future laptops/tablets. The new software runs on x86, x64 and the SOC architectures - so the aim with Surface (and other RT computers) is an port of Windows 8 to a different architecture that supports low power, long battery life scenarios.

MS ported Office across - but the long term strategy is using the Windows Store as the primary method of application distribution (like Apple does with the App Store and Google does with Google Play) - but that RT picks up the benefit of all those people targeting Windows 8 desktops (which for all the jokes about Windows 8 - after 6 months, is around 4-5% of the OS market - put another way - after 6 months Windows 8 is around 40% of Apple's total market share)

There are a lot of differences in Windows 8 under the hood and a lot of enterprise type features that are probably of interest only to larger organizations. Unfortunately Sinofsky's messaging on Windows 8 was "Consumers Consumers Consumers" (the usual approach is to sell the advantages to IT Pros - so there is a bit of IT pro resentment about the fact that the usual way of selling the new desktop OS was bypassed). You'll note that Sinofsky and Microsoft have parted ways and that the public noise around "Blue" revisions to Windows 8 are focused more on the "lets explain why you want your big company to use this OS" approach.

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Matthew swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted April 21, 2013

You shouldn't ever buy a printer that can only plug into a PC. Buy a network one (with wireless if you swing that way) and just use the LAN printing baked into OSX. Think of it as "AirPrint".

TC asserts...

Posted April 21, 2013

Any clues as to whether you can get a non-AirPrint printer to work with an iPad? Fuck I hate printers.

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Posted April 21, 2013

I fucking hate printers. If it was feasible I'd never own one and only print through... whatever printing shops exist. But it's always 2am when you just need to print one page and nothing's open.

That said, I bought a Brother all-in-one in the US for about $100 that lasted 18 months with no hassles, printed beautiful photos, had a copy feed that worked perfecty and never had an issue. Should have brought it home... they probably cost about a million dollars here.

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damian asserts...

Posted April 21, 2013

Printers are usually the easy bit - but then I probably wouldn't ever buy a Brother with my own money. HP and Epson (the latter only for inkjets) ARE the printer market. If you are after a high-end multifunction centre (ie, a photocopier that also acts as network printer), then Ricoh might be acceptable. And in any case, a laser printer should be on the network and handle PostScript (or HPs PCL, but only for older Windows with buggy PS drivers... otherwise PS is better).

Lulu puts forth...

Posted April 22, 2013

We got a Ricoh at work recently. Using it looks more complicated than launching a space shuttle, so for my simple printing needs I'm sticking with one of the HP printers at the moment.

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Darth Greybeard asserts...

Posted April 21, 2013

Daughter bought a Brother HL-2135W three days ago. I used a USB cable for initial setup, connected it to the router, now prints wirelessly from pretty much anything anywhere. Took about 10 min. Also got the beardless youth selling it to knock off $10. Some of us just got the power.

I couldn't say nice enough things about my Fuji Xerox Docuprint C525A at home. Not sure how old it is but at least six years. Quite decent quality colour laser, just chugs along and does its thing. Not sure I've even had to replace all the cartridges yet. Cheap & reliable as long as you don't want photo quality.

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HAVOCK21 asserts...

Posted April 21, 2013

yeah, I'm fkn waiting till ya need a new fkn cartridge!....I use Canon, pretty fkn reliable and I'm fkd if I know why you lot have soooo much fkn trouble with computers and setting up printers. PRINTERS ARE FKN CHILDS PLAY YA MUPPETS!.

But yeah, I bought the all in one units some time ago, then, after about 2 years it needs to go in for a service, called them up for an estimate, MORE THAN I PAID FOR TH FKN THING!...So I did it my self.

It makes my hard drive removal look like it was done by a fkn brain surgeon...fkrs!

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she_jedi mutters...

Posted April 21, 2013

Danny Bhoy's latest stand up show is entitled "Dear Epson...." and is constructed around his 'Dear Epson' letter about the cost of their ink jet cartridges. Just about cried laughing, 'CAUSE IT'S TRUE. Thank god I'm gainfully employed by a big corporation and I can sneak the odd page or two of private printing through the office network and our Ricoh photocopier / printer / scanner / DNA encoder / coffee machine or whatever the hell else it's supposed to do.

I have an old Canon inkjet at home that a friend gave me after his father won it, I kid you not, in the chook raffle at an RSL. Damn thing still works ok despite taking about 15 minutes to warm up and print something, although it tends to pause halfway through each page to contemplate life, the universe and everything before finishing the job. Last time I had to print at home I was in a hurry and was ready to take to the bloody thing with a sledgehammer a la Officespace in sheer frustration. I vowed then to replace it with a laser but still haven't gotten around to it.

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ShaneAlpha would have you know...

Posted April 21, 2013

Forget inkjet. Buy a cheap laser. Just be aware that the cartridge that comes with the printer is half size. Buy ONE full size printer cartridge for it. When that cartrdige runs out buy a new printer. Most of the cost of a cheap laser is the cartridge. Take away the cartridge cost and the printer is about $40.00

Legless mutters...

Posted April 21, 2013

^This. Been doing this for the last three years. One more tip I can add. On the Brothers, don't believe the toner low warning or out of toner lie. Taking the toner cartridge out and sticking a bit of tape over a hole will give you twice the life. Sling it when you start to get faded print outs. I found the tip on a youtube video and have been doing it ever since.

Laser printers are so cheap now that I atually keep a brand new one as a spare. When the toner finally gives up the ghost I just unpack the new one, sling the old one and carry on, picking up a new one when I'm passing Officeworks.

Timmo reckons...

Posted April 22, 2013

To be honest, it shits me that this is the choice we have in this consumerist culture - that it's cheaper to buy a new one than replace parts or even expendables like toner and drums. Because the real cost to society of the use and disposal of everything that goes into a printer is not factored in but is treated as an "externality" - the environmental cost, the loss of unrenewable resources etc are not counted. And businesses sell them at a loss anyway (on just the costs that ARE factored in) to make money from expendables). There are laws in Germany to make sellers entirely responsible for the cost of disposal of goods and packaging that goes into their products (including cars for example) and this cost is passed on. Making things a bit more expensive may have us reconsider the disposability of goods from more than the current simple economic point of view.

On the other issue, I have found exactly the same thing on the Brother toner - don't rely on the computer to tell you when toner is getting low, use your eyes. If the print quality goes, THEN change the toner. My printer (a Brother HL-2270 DW incidentally) has been telling me this for months and printing fine, though I do have a new cartridge sitting around for it.

ShaneAlpha would have you know...

Posted April 22, 2013

Another tip, if the print quality starts to fade, pull the cartridge out and bang it on something several times. you'll get a few more runs out of it.

DNABeast reckons...

Posted April 22, 2013

My brother printer only costs thirty bucks to refill. Just do a bit of a search on the web for a good deal.

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HAVOCK21 has opinions thus...

Posted April 21, 2013

its one of the reasons our work has the LASER Prineter refills under fkn LOCK, KEY, armed fkn sentry and Nuke type code fkn access

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sibeen swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted April 22, 2013

I like printers, mainly because, in this case, I can always claim "mine is bigger than yours"

I have three printers in my home office. A cannon MP730, which has to be about 10 years old. Its main role is to print out an A43 document every now and then, and do faxing and scanning (A4 only).

Next is a HP K8600, which is the workhorse in the office. prints A3/A4. About 6 years old now, and the poor girl is starting to show her age. Admittedly, she hasn't been treated well, and if the dust buildup on her outer casing is anything to go by her innnards must be fairly cancerous.

My big baby is another HP.- a large format T770. Prints out to B0 size. What every engineer secretley lusts after (we are a weird mob). Had it for a few years now. I shit myself last year when she went pear shaped. I had to call HP and have them send a tech out for repairs. I warned SWMBO that the kids may not be eating for a week or two. Was very pleasantly surprised when the damage came in at less than $200.

This thread is about bragging rights, isn't it? :)

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Matthew K would have you know...

Posted April 22, 2013

Use a medieaval Gutenberg style printing press, sure you'll have to install a stone lined cellar in your house and learn ancient low German in order to instruct the men, but it's still easier and more stress free than the 21st C version.

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Rob asserts...

Posted April 22, 2013

I always had good luck with printers after I switched to Canon. Then a few months back I upgraded (might be an oxymoron here) to windows 8 and then the damn thing wouldn't recognise the Canon printer which worked fine on windows 7. I gave up in huffy and gave the printers to my sons who have lap tops. If I need something printed or scanned I just get them to do it. If they complain I moan about how I'm the one paying for the 500 gig adsl internet account and perhaps they would like to vacum the house and walk the dog, instead of doing 5 minutes of printing and scanning for me. Printing sorted.

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John Birmingham swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted April 22, 2013
But ... but... but... Orin assured me Windows 8 was perfect!

JG asserts...

Posted April 22, 2013

JB, I had a Canon laser printer once, bought secondhand at a Parliament House selloff in Canberra. It was great. The cartridge I bought it with (worth about $400 on its own) lasted me throughout my three years as a student at the ANU. It was a giant mother of a printer, but I loved it.

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Posted April 22, 2013

I bought a cheap HP Deskjet 2510 printer the other day. I think it was $35. I know it's slow and uses the oldest technology (having used plenty of laser printers in the past), but it suits my purposes. It's not like I'm a writer or a student anymore. I only got it to print out the occasional thing I need.

Rob has opinions thus...

Posted April 24, 2013

Printing for me has gone out the window. I hardly ever print or scan anything. I've taken to photographing my drawings and putting them on my tumblr blog. Scanning seems too precise and doesn't mimic the eye that well. Then you could always go for hectographic pencils and make reverse copies of everything. Just need some dettol and paper and there you have it, instant Da Vinci reverse handwriting secret diary making. But this might be a discussion for an essay on unique genuine output in an age of digital reproduction, copying and re-blogging. But then again we probably don't need to revisit post-modernism just yet.

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Craig Richmond swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted April 23, 2013

In 2003 I bought a low end Postscript capable USB HP Laserjet. I'm onto my 4th ream of paper and still on the original toner cartridge. It was a calculated decision when I bought it that the 6000 page toner (it was before the day of starter toner cartridges) was probably a toner cartridge for life. I do wish it was a bit faster with big images, but hey, it's been a solid performer.

I've had moderately positive experiences with HP and Canon when you've thrown that one out the window and your ready for a second go on the merry go round.

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My brother has another new thing

Posted April 16, 2013 into Science and Tech by John Birmingham

I dunno when he found time to do this other thing, in between starting up imeemy.com, but it looks very grown up. Er, somewhat more grown up than a blog not a thousand miles removed from where you've parked your arse right now.

But that's okay. Here, just gimme a minute, I've got some more stuff about cakes n spaceships!

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damian ducks in to say...

Posted April 16, 2013

Neat stuff. It's always slightly reassuring, even if you find it difficult to get excited about online marketing yourself, to see that there are in fact people out there trying new models and making the ones that work happen. Even if they don't necessarily add up to a viable future for rewarding content creation.

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w from brisbane puts forth...

Posted April 16, 2013

Very good. I'm a bit of a dill. Could someone explain the website's name, Which-50, to me?

w from brisbane would have you know...

Posted April 17, 2013

I guess that is a no.
Silly pre-internetty question, probably.

TC puts forth...

Posted April 18, 2013

I don't get it either, and I'm generally pretty good at these things.

JB, any clues? Or should we actually spend some time on the site and see if the penny drops?

AB would have you know...

Posted May 18, 2013

Re: the name. Its an old advertising story - Marketers like to joke that 50 per cent of advertising is wasted, but no one can tell them which 50.

Yeah I know, I have spent too many years in publishing.

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TC ducks in to say...

Posted April 17, 2013

It all seems so... serious. Far too much like my job... as opposed to CheeseGoth Utopia, which is a lot more like the inner workings of my mind.

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Dino not to be confused with is gonna tell you...

Posted April 20, 2013

Very Interesting JB

(Ya listenin' Andrew? Ya look like ya brother, anyone tell ya that?)

I will be subscribing. SWMBO is involved in Marketing and computer stuff.

I have tried to get her to look at so many things.

She thinks she knows better than moi !

She may talk the talk but I definitely walk the walk.

She won't ever read this will she?

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Death of an iPad cover

Posted April 15, 2013 into Science and Tech by John Birmingham

I took the iPad with me to Perth and Hanoi for that work trip over Easter. I did try to talk myself into buying a shiny retina MacBook, but I really couldn't justify it. With one or two exceptions the iPad does pretty much everything I need, and I suspect the retina 'books will still be another generation or two shaking themselves out. Apple has had some pretty serious problems sourcing reliable displays from anybody other than Samsung.
But the iPad was a perfect travel device, since all I had to do was write a few blogs and take a few notes. Because I'd be writing quite a bit on it I took my Logitech ultrathin keyboard cover, which turns the pad into something resembling a MacBook Air when it's all closed up, but which sits a lot more comfortably on a tray table than the Air does. The Logitech really does turn the pad into much more of a work machine.
When I wasn't using it for work, however, I preferred my old, hand-made Grove case; a really beautiful case made of bamboo, and a nice worn leather cover. It's a much more pleasant artefact to take to the bar when you're dining on your own, for instance. Feels less like work is following you everywhere. It does add some bulk to the device, and there have been times when that hacked me off, but it wasn't until recently that I came to realize how much the simple aesthetics of the Grove added to the experience of using the pad. It wasn't until I didn't have it anymore.
My beloved Grove iPad case is gone. Destroyed on the flight back home.
Airline cabins are not a friendly environment for these cases. The lack of moisture in the air causes them to crack. Because of this I wrapped mine up and stowed it in my checked baggage. Unfortunately I wrapped the baggage using one of those massive plastic dispensers they have the airports now, post Schapelle Corby. I'm not an aeronautical engineer, and I can't tell you why that wrapping tends to 'squeeze' tighter over the course of the flight, but it did. It squeezed so tight that it reduced my much loved bamboo case to splinters. I still have the detachable leather cover, but the pad itself is now protected by a simple gel casing.
It's thinner. It's easier to hold. It's probably even a little more protective. But I hate it. I've always kept all of my iPhones and pads in protective cases, and with each of them I've had reason to be thankful for having done so. My 5, for instance, has already hit the floor two or three times, but the big black ruggedized OtterBox case in which it's hidden worked perfectly on each occasion. Even the Grove Bamboo iPad case, which doesn't advertise itself as providing a great deal of drop protection, did in fact do just that on a couple of occasions.
But no more.
I read a piece about 6 to 12 months ago, written by a design enthusiast, bemoaning the way most people hid their phones away inside ugly, clunky cases. He insisted a grown-up should be able to look after a phone, and that such a beautiful piece of industrial design should not be hidden away inside some shit ugly plastic and rubber cage. I thought he was an idiot. And even worse the sort of arrogant idiot who forgets that not everybody gets sent review units, or can write off a couple of phones a year as a tax loss.
But I'm looking at the nasty, ugly gel cover on my iPad and thinking there might've been something to what he said. Not so much that these expensive and fragile pieces of technology should just be released into the wild with no protection whatsoever. But that encasing them in the cheapest, ugliest but most 'functional' armor you can find actually detracts from the enjoyment of using them.

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beeso has opinions thus...

Posted April 15, 2013

I have never had a case on my phone, i don't like having a skerrick more weight or size. Despite what some tech pundits think, bigger isn't always better.

For the ipads, we use the STM cases at work, a nice blend of ruggedness and size. They have prettier ones as well but these ones work great in high use environments.

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w from brisbane has opinions thus...

Posted April 15, 2013

the sort of arrogant idiot who designs stainless steel, sharp edged coffee tables and places them in hotel lobbies etc.

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HAVOCK21 is gonna tell you...

Posted April 15, 2013

with Beeso on the phone ansd covers etc and never busted one or cracked one even and fk knows...I AM HARD ON FKN SHIT!.

As for the stretch wrap...its actaually called shrink wrap its mean to pull in somewhat, but its greatest property is to cling to inselt as you get with glad wrap. SHOULD NOT have fkn compressed that much unless some fkr put the wrapped object in the heat!

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Quokka reckons...

Posted April 15, 2013

I thought it was the pressure in the cargo hold that did that to things.

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Bangar is gonna tell you...

Posted April 15, 2013

H is on the money depending on how it's dipensed (you can prestretch or not) and/or stretch it onto what you wrapping and it will return to smaller size, keeping you pallet together and your iPad cover not so.

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TC would have you know...

Posted April 15, 2013

I don't like having to add a protective cover to things, it's pretty annoying. I choose protective covers that are as small, lightweight and invisible as possible, but I like that other people personalise their own devices. It's just not for me.

I want my fully functional piece of tech to be as light and small as possible. But that's what I want, it's not what everyone wants. I almost bought a Book-book for my iPad because I liked the look of it on Amazon. Then I saw a real one and decided that I didn't like it at all. I also looked at your bamboo ones, John, and they were an almost. But again I stuck with the Apple smart cover.

I'm sorry yours got matchsticked though, I can certainly understand becoming attached to something like that.

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w from brisbane asserts...

Posted April 15, 2013

You have probably all seen this German ad.

Daughter asks
"Dad, how are you getting along with the iPad we gave? you for your birthday?"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtXWWRyJLPw

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John Birmingham would have you know...

Posted April 15, 2013

Lobes, I deleted your comment not because it was daft, (which it was) but because you haven't indemnified my for defamation. Pony up some quids and I'll let it back into the wild.

HAVOCK21 reckons...

Posted April 15, 2013

ROFLMFAO!

Brian ducks in to say...

Posted April 15, 2013

Indemnifying?I get that on the new improved burger you can screen and block, first I've ever heard of a fine system anywhere. Not interested in what brought it about - none of my business; is this formal or informal ie off burger?

John Birmingham mutters...

Posted April 15, 2013

No, it's not a Burger thing. My various media employers, my 'publishers', indemnify me against defamation. As long as I don't recklessly salnder anyone, they'll cover me in a court action. This is why Blunty is sometimes a bit late. We're doing the legals.

It's actually not possible, AFAIK, for anyone of you to indemnify me against being sued for something you say in the comments, and which I, as the Burger's publisher, am then liable for.

So I was sort of taking the piss. But not. Because there was a line in Lobe's comment which would have been actionable. Even if it wasn't found to be defamatory, by the time I'd finished defending it, or even settling out of court, I'd be divorced and homeless.

Punters often screech that the media are gutless and won't print the truth. But very few punters find themselves writing million dollar cheques to lititgants of dubious virtue.

Lobes, of course, is free to repeat his allegations elswhere and take on the litigation risk himself. It is undoubtedly lower for him than me.

damian mumbles...

Posted April 15, 2013

Do you suppose there's a market for a whole new kind of public indemnity insurance? My intuition is that for it to be viable for the insurer, the premiums would be prohibitively expensive (easier just not to libel in the first place).

Lobes is gonna tell you...

Posted April 15, 2013

Seems a little precious to me. The family I named have a long history of interactions with the legal system that is a matter of public record.

John Birmingham asserts...

Posted April 15, 2013

Never been sued for deffo, eh, jungle boy? Pull up a tree stump and let me tell you aaaaaaaall about it.

Lobes mumbles...

Posted April 15, 2013

I'd be more interested to hear why you believe rolling up your luggage in glad wrap like a cold snag at the back of the fridge is useful and/or necessary. IMO the security value is mostly cosmetic and in your case it's actually been a negative.

Travelling with check in luggage is overkill for the tropics anyway, Theres just no need to carry more than 2 or 3 lightweight outfits, particularly considering a trip of such short duration. I have a rant brewing about the necessity of being ruthless when packing but fear I digress too much already. Just leave the steamer trunk at home next time Stanley. You can always buy a few bintang singlets when you get there if you're caught short.

John Birmingham mumbles...

Posted April 16, 2013

Those of us with families dont get to travel alone without bringing back heaps of compensatory booty. Hence, you leave with a half empty suitcase and return with a full one. It would be joyous to travel free and light as I once did. But that life is over.

As one day it will be over for you too.

Mwuhahahahahaha.

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Brother PorkChop asserts...

Posted April 15, 2013

One of the imps put his chair leg through his tablet screen a few days before the drive back from Canberra to Brisbane - he was completely distraught and inconsolable given that he now had only analogue entertainment for the journey. Why he had the cover off, I don't know but they would have saved him and have saved me on more than one occasion. I actually quite like the feel of the gecko covers.

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damian swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted April 15, 2013

Damn shame - that bamboo cover looks nice.

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Blarkon mutters...

Posted April 15, 2013

I know a lot of big sites have Terms of Service to get themselves around the defamation bit - but they also tend to be US based. I know when I've run sites we've put something into the account sign up that basically says "you own what you say and we'll forward your deets to curious lawyers" - but again they haven't been Oz based sites.

In terms of cases - I agree with the "naked is what the creator intended". Cracked phones can be repaired relatively cheaply - though some are better built than others (the new Nokias seem to survive some pretty determined abuse http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDEahsoa_N4 )

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Bunyip puts forth...

Posted April 15, 2013

I loved the hardcase on my iPhoon. Dropped, accidentally drop kicked it, and once *cought* threw it out the window *cough*. Took a full cup of coffee to kill that beastie. Now got a leather & steel flip cover for the Motorola. Dropped it a couple of times. Works fine.

So you 'pureists' can go get <crow noises>.

Shame about the iPad cover JB. Surely worth another one.

John Birmingham asserts...

Posted April 16, 2013

I'd love another, Bunyip, but they've tweaked the design and the cover is no longer removable. A travesty.

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Bangar would have you know...

Posted April 16, 2013

I usually don't wrap my luggage ... maybe I should

http://lifehacker.com/5747199/open-a-locked-suitcase-without-leaving-a-trace

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NBlob asserts...

Posted April 16, 2013
  1. I mostly use soft rolly bags with super fine cable ties as 'tells tales' on all the zipper tabs. If one is missing when I take it off the carosel, Before passing through customs I say to Occifer Friendly "It appears my bag has been opened since I checked it, perhaps by security."
  2. @ Lord Blarkon my job has consumed a 6720 & a N8 in the last 18 months. Neither repairable. Now I live in 1992 with a 110, whose sole saving grace is a RRP of $35.
  3. A friend has a disabled 5yr old son whose favourite thing on the planet is his iPad. It lives in a US Marine rated cover. UnDeFuckinStructable. To date has been dipped in the bath, bounced down stairs, dropped, kicked, thrown, chewed used to beat on mum / dad / sister with, even stolen by a malamute...

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damian puts forth...

Posted April 16, 2013

Bob, this may be of interest. Though I guess it looks like it should really come with a heart rate monitor, foot sensors and a sweatband...

John Birmingham mumbles...

Posted April 16, 2013

Damian, I bleive that may be the first use of the html linker. Congrats. Took you all long enough.

NBlob mutters...

Posted April 17, 2013

Pretty cool comrade PTSD.

Pity no FM receiver, as that is a function I use daily.

NBlob swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted April 17, 2013

Pretty cool comrade PTSD.

Pity no FM receiver, as that is a function I use daily.

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