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A lady driving the Tardis?

Posted June 6, 2013 into Blunty by John Birmingham

I can't believe this is even a thing. I thought it was just one of those jokes like the perennial call for 007 to be be played by an African American or an Innuit lady-boy.

But no. It's a thing.

At Blunty.

I got the idea for today's blog, not so much from the small burble of pop culture mavens burbling away at the idea of stripping just a little more cultural significance from the white anglo male, but from the protests in Turkey. There's an image gone viral in that part of the world, a young woman being pepper-sprayed by a riot cop.


It's become a rallying totem for anti government protestors. One of the images adapted from it really struck me.

There's something very obviously powerful in the contrast between the quaint, rather old fashioned figure she cuts here, and the seried ranks of human automata facing her. Quaint but powerful is a very Whovian motif, of course, and I could easily imagine those riot cops replaced by Daleks or Cybermen.

Hence today's Blunty..

47 Responses to ‘A lady driving the Tardis? ’

ChrisB puts forth...

Posted June 6, 2013

Kinda reminds me of the whole 'first female Star Trek' captain debate from a few years back or the 'Starbuck's a girl' from the BSG re-boot. Both worked themselves out just fine, but if JJ's ST reboot had floated the idea that Kirk would be a woman, the scream from fans would have outdone Shatner's in Wrath of Khan. I think Doc should be a man. If you want to explore a female doc, feel free to have another TimeLord show up.

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Rhino swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted June 6, 2013

Commented on Blunty. HAVOCK mode was engaged.

John Birmingham puts forth...

Posted June 6, 2013

And an excellent comment it was.

Jayanthi's Atomic Cat has opinions thus...

Posted June 8, 2013

LOL Rhino!

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pitpat has opinions thus...

Posted June 6, 2013

But a handbag or shopping bag? I dunno.

John Birmingham is gonna tell you...

Posted June 6, 2013

She gotta keep that sonic nail file somewhere.

Bangar would have you know...

Posted June 6, 2013

That'd be sonic lipstick JB, pioneered by the original SJS.

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Conspiracy Cat puts forth...

Posted June 6, 2013

One word: SheZow.

Barnesm would have you know...

Posted June 6, 2013

Was fun to watch the complaints about that one.

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Trowzers has opinions thus...

Posted June 6, 2013

I think River Song showed us what a female Time Lord could be like - and I think she's pretty neat. My only issue is that they'd have to find another person just as awesome as Alex Kingston to pull it off properly, and there just aren't that many people like that.

There's really no reason why the Doctor can't be a girl (gender swapping Timelords are already canon - aka The Corsair), except that it either makes some people feel icky, or they just can't imagine it, or that's *just not how it's done* and all those arguments are just too close to the argument against gay marriage for my liking. Get out of your rut, people! The history of the TV show already shows they can screw it up even when they choose a male Doctor, why not open the books to allow them to choose someone AWSM regardless of race or gender? That they actually be AWSM is my only rule - no choosing a chicky Who just because they want to show how progressive and cool they are. Make sure they have the right actor in place before they choose what gender the new Doc is going to be.

Dino not to be confused with mumbles...

Posted June 6, 2013

Trowzers,

Ya can't go and compare Doctor Who and the gender argument to Gay Marriage! Ewww. It is just not done!

And also the use of the word 'Chicky' is sexist.

Please use 'ChickyBabe' from now on if you want to be taken seriously.

Jayanthi's Atomic Cat is gonna tell you...

Posted June 8, 2013

Dino, this ChickyBabe is letting you know that if you want to see the full-on "Why the Doctor can't be female" based purely on the same-sex marriage argument, it's high up in the Blunty comments. And I think it's exactly the sort of stuff Trowz was referring to, I would think. But, like, way worse. I don't think Trowz was in favour of that argument, btw.

And I agree with the Alex Kingston comment, Trowzers.

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beeso has opinions thus...

Posted June 6, 2013

If its not Philip Glenister playing Gene Hunt playing Doctor Who then i'm not interested.

Spanner would have you know...

Posted June 6, 2013

Fire up the Tardis doesn't have the same ring to it as "Fire up the Quattro"

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Blarkon reckons...

Posted June 6, 2013

River Song was arse compared to Romana and Romana II.

I like that people assume that the Doctor, being Gallifreyan, has a dick.

It's interesting that the same people who say "ZOMG Female Doctor Teh Awsm" get giddy with anger if you suggest a male Buffy. (changes to both alter the fundamental dynamic and audience expectation of the character. It shouldn't matter, but to the audience it does).

Caitlin in the Wave Trilogy would be less awsm if she was a bloke. Buffy would be less awsm if she was a bloke. Laura Roslin would be less awsm if she was a bloke. The Doctor would be less awsm if he wasn't.

John Birmingham swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted June 6, 2013

I believe I made this very point on teh Twitterz. It was roundly ignored.

Blarkon reckons...

Posted June 6, 2013

There is certainly a push away from traditional hero archetypes.

However unless the hypothesis "men like aspirational archetypes, women like relatable archetypes" doesn't hold water, there's only so far you can push it before you get out of the audience's zone of acceptable disbelief.

Ripley works because she's a believable character. Batman works because he's not. Nick Hornby said something along the lines of "almost every guy believes deep down, if he'd just grown up under the right circumstances, that he could be The Batman and that women are more grown up and accept that Batman is comic book bullshit"

Ippy Percival swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted June 9, 2013

I've said before that I think Carrot is the sort of hero men aspire to be, whie Vimes is one they relate to, identify with. That got a bit blurred with the whole "Vimes is invincible" theme that emerged from Fifth Elephent on, but even so -- maybe that is the sort of mechanism you're talking about, my scaly friend.

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Lulu asserts...

Posted June 6, 2013

Male Buffy would contradict *Whedon's* intentions in creating the character, not just the audience expectations.

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Blarkon puts forth...

Posted June 6, 2013

And a female doctor wouldn't contradict the creator's intentions?

Lulu reckons...

Posted June 6, 2013

I remember reading (can't find the quote, so I'm roughly paraphrasing) that he said he specifically wanted to play against expectations & tradition - in slasher movies the pretty teenage girl is usually the one getting slashed, not the one doing the ass-kicking. Kinda doesn't work if Buffy had been played by David Boreanaz & not SMG.

Jayanthi's Atomic Cat would have you know...

Posted June 9, 2013
And I think he still continues in that vein. Kaylee and Inara in Firefly/Serenity were kinda ' against type' as non-kickass female sf characters.

Allowing charactersto be themselves ...whoever they turn out to be... is the goal, right? The contrast of characters in Firefly,irrespective of gender, is what workd well.

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Murphy mutters...

Posted June 6, 2013

What?

They are making Dr. Who? episodes again? Frankly, I think it all went to shit after Peter Davidson left the series. If you wanted to be ballsy the time to have a Female Doctor would have been Doctor Number Six.

Instead we got Bozo the Clown or some shit.

Respects,

Murph

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Barnesm would have you know...

Posted June 6, 2013

They are making Dr. Who? episodes again?

Yes,

Yes they are.

Blarkon would have you know...

Posted June 6, 2013

Colin Baker asserts that he wanted to play a darker Doctor, including a flowing black cape, and they dressed him up like an idiot. His son also died soon after he got the role, which didn't help with the other problems the series was experiencing back then.

w from brisbane has opinions thus...

Posted June 6, 2013

Tell me your favourite Dr Who, and I will tell you your age.......approximately.

Brother PorkChop ducks in to say...

Posted June 6, 2013

Jon Pertwee

w from brisbane asserts...

Posted June 6, 2013

Brother Porkchop,

Jon Pertwee. Of course, those darned repeats can really throw out the modelling, but I would say your age starts with a 5.

Bangar has opinions thus...

Posted June 6, 2013

Tom Baker is a favourite, but I'd say David Tenant is my favourite. I wonder if any one will mention Peter Cushing?

DILLIGAF asserts...

Posted June 6, 2013

Tossup between Pertwee and Baker. Probably Pertwee.

Ippy Percival mutters...

Posted June 6, 2013

"...which didn't help with the other problems the series was experiencing back then" - Come on man, out with it, say the name of the "problems" aloud. John fucking Nathan fucking Turner! *spits*.

Barnesm reckons...

Posted June 6, 2013

Sylvester McCoy

Murphy mutters...

Posted June 7, 2013

Peter Cushing was my first encounter with the Doctor, on Saturday Morning Sci-Fi Theater on Channel Five.

That said, Tom Baker.

Respects,

Murph

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Brother PorkChop puts forth...

Posted June 7, 2013

Close W, close, but it is a late 4. I remember lying on the floor with a cat for a pillow on cold wet Saturday afternoons watching Dr Who through my fingers for a scary bits. Then for some light relief following the Doctor, it was the Banana Splits and Danger Island. Good times.....

w from brisbane has opinions thus...

Posted June 7, 2013

Uh-oh, Chongo!

Jayanthi's Atomic Cat reckons...

Posted June 8, 2013

Peter Davidson...that Black Orchid episode still brings a tear to me eye...

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Dilph swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted June 6, 2013

I still think the best new doctor - and I've been expounding this theory since Eccleston's run ended - would be Dylan Moran.

Surly, hungover irishman who leans heavily on a competent sidekick who can decipher his mutterings and save the day. And the sonic screwdriver isn't used as a bottle opener anywhere near often enough.

I can just picture him leaning against a wall, hungover as all hell, telling his assistant to turn the knob - no, no, the other knob - to make the god-forsaken caterwauling of the alarm sirens stop. And incidentally saving the day in the process.

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Blarkon swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted June 6, 2013

Someone suggested Tim Minchin as the next Doctor.

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yankeedog would have you know...

Posted June 6, 2013

Peter Cushing as my favorite Grand Moff Doctor. Bangar double-dog dared me.

Tom Baker for favorite Doctor.

I never thought much about the Timelord's gender; however, I notice the general trend is that he seems to generally be getting younger through his various regenerations. Next Doctor at this rate will be played by a twelve-year-old child actor.

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ShaneAlpha is gonna tell you...

Posted June 6, 2013

The Doctor wants to be a ginger.

I vote for Rupert Grint as the next Doctor.

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Murphy has opinions thus...

Posted June 7, 2013

Let's be honest though, isn't the gender flipping so cliche? Almost so 2003?

Why not make the Doctor transgendered or something? More to the point, why does there have to be a male/female distinction at all?

Respects,

Murph

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Jayanthi's Atomic Cat asserts...

Posted June 9, 2013
I'm with Murph. Really, the Doctor, at least to my recollection, has always been a white Caucasian male with a pommy accent. We could equally ask why he has never been a non-caucasian man.

And my better half has exhorted me not to forget the Doctor-Donna thing.

If any of this is nonsensical its the stoopid phone again

John Birmingham asserts...

Posted June 9, 2013

That's some impressive last minute commenting Jay'

Ippy Percival would have you know...

Posted June 9, 2013

Which reminds me that Catherine Tate would be pretty amazingly awesome (and the ret-conning would be beautifully hideous).

Ippy Percival has opinions thus...

Posted June 9, 2013

And by sheer fluke, I am just now seeing Tim Minchin on the TV singing 'Only a ginger can call another ginger ginger'.

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Jayanthi's Atomic Cat swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted June 9, 2013
Obama for the next Doctor, I say!

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