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The Old Persuader

Posted October 8, 2013 into Food & Drink by John Birmingham

Details for where to get your Old Persuader are up at the Stone&Wood site, along with some of the story of the beer.

The Old Persuader is The Mash Collective’s third beer release. Inspired by the transition into Summer and the preparation that inevitably entails… think, mowing that unkept lawn, cleaning the greasy barby, and pulling out the abandoned beach wear and cricket set, well this strong lager that’s gutsy but refreshing was envisioned as the friend that tells you to sit down and just relax…

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The lager draws parallels with freshly mown grass, think grassy, spicy hops, scattered over a fresh malt palate with a glow of a well deserved alcohol kick. It’s the beer that gets the job done, for a person who gets the job done!

Techo Stuff

Style: Bock/ Lager hybrid, Alc/Vol 6.6%

But most importantly, this is where you can get it in a coupla days. (Tip o' the glass to W for the link).

On tap at:

Great Northern Hotel (Byron Bay)
The Rails (Byron Bay)
Nimbin Hotel (Nimbin)
Bangalow Hotel (Bangalow)
Black Coffee Lyrics (Surfers Paradise)
Pig n Whistle (Riverside, Bris)
Grand Central (Bris)
The Villager (Bris)
Cartel (Bris)
Bosc (Bris)
Archive (Bris)
Elephant Arms (Bris)
Sabotage (Bris)
Urbane (Bris)
The End (Bris)
Tipplers Tap (Bris)
The Scratch (Bris)
Story Bridge Hotel (Bris)
Embassy Hotel (Bris)
Bitter Suite (Bris)
Iceworks (Bris)
Yamanto Tavern (Yamanto)
Warners at the Bay (Syd)
Prince of Wales (Syd)
Steyne Hotel (Syd)
Hart’s Pub (Syd)
The Local (Syd)
Yullis (Syd)
Royal Albert (Syd)
Petersham Bowling Club (Syd)
Quarrymans (Syd)
Pumphouse Bar (Syd)
Forest Lodge (Syd)
Clarendon Hotel (Syd)
East Village (Balmain, Syd)
Union Hotel (Newtown, Syd)
Frankie’s Pizza (Syd)
Collaroy Beach Club (Syd)
The Grain Store (Syd)
Station Bar (Katoomba)
Albion Hotel (Newcastle)
Rainbow Hotel (Melb)
The Royston (Melb)
Park Hotel (Melb)
Kelly’s Bar & Kitchen (Melb)
Beer Deluxe (CBD Melb)
Terminus Hotel (Melb)
Great Northern (Melb)
Cookie (Melb)
Beer Deluxe (Hawthorn Melb)
Young & Jacksons (Melb)
Brother Burger (Melb)
Prince Albert Hotel (Melb)
Village Melbourne (Melb)
Bettenays (Melb)

In bottles at:

Great Northern Hotel (Byron Bay)
The Cellar (Byron Bay)
Beach Hotel (Byron Bay)
Ocean Shores General Store (Ocean Shores)
Taphouse (Kingscliff)
Black Coffee Lyrics (Surfers Paradise)
Lennox Hotel (Lennox Heads)
Justin Lane (Burleigh Heads)
Archive (Bris)
Lock n Load (Bris)
Cardigan Bar (Bris)
Story Bridge Hotel (Bris)
Vines (Cleveland)
Public Bar (Bris)
Aquila (Bris)
Yamanto Tavern (Yamanto)
Bitter Suite (Bris)
The Scratch (Bris)
Grand Central Hotel (Bris)
Chalk n Cheese (Bris)
Alliance Hotel (Bris)
Stewart Barracks (Bris)
Archive (Bris)
Foxy Bean (Bris)
Kerbside (Bris)
Brew Cafe (Bris)
Story Bridge Hotel (Bris)
Elephant Arms (Bris)
Melbourne Hotel (Bris)
Craft Retail (Redhill)
Harry Brown (Yamanto + Eatons)
Camperdown Cellars (Syd)
Porters (Syd)
Beer Cartel (Syd)
Longueville Hotel (Syd)
Steyne Hotel (Syd)
Steve’s Cool Breeze (Syd)
Firestation Hotel (Syd)
Earls Juke Joint (Syd)
465 The Avenue (Syd)
Bondi Beach Cellars (Syd)
David’s Cellars (Syd)
Black Penny (Syd)
Cromer Cellars (Syd)
Oak Barrell (Syd)
S+P Liquor (Syd)
Treehouse Hotel (Syd)
Bottle’O (Wickham)
Bottle’O (Lampton)
Prince of Wales (Newcastle)
Plonk (ACT)
Warners at the Bay (Newcastle)
Purvis (Melb)
Caufield Cellars (Melb)
Acland Cellars (Melb)
Blackhearts & Sparrows (Melb)
Inkerman Hotel (Melb)
Beer Deluxe CBD (Melb)
McCoppins Fitzroy (Melb)
Valley Cellar Door (Melb)

53 Responses to ‘The Old Persuader’

Gramme has opinions thus...

Posted October 8, 2013

I like the name. Too bad I signed up for this OcSober bullshit.

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insomniac puts forth...

Posted October 8, 2013

nor in the Illawarra

Dick has opinions thus...

Posted October 8, 2013

no Western Victoria

Peter Bradley is gonna tell you...

Posted October 8, 2013

Nor in South Australia.

Darth Greybeard swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted October 8, 2013

Ah Paul, that's just to lure you back to our exotic foreign shores.

Rhino is gonna tell you...

Posted October 9, 2013

Nor in Atlanta, GA

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan is gonna tell you...

Posted October 9, 2013

Greg, if someone could promise me a bottle, it might close the deal.

Jacques Stahl has opinions thus...

Posted October 12, 2013

Nor Hobart.........

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Brother PorkChop ducks in to say...

Posted October 8, 2013

Yippeeeeee!!!!!! Harry Browns at Eatons Hill!!! What is "you can get it in a couple of days" exactly? Does it mean mid this week now? Like Wednesday/tomorrow?

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Therbs ducks in to say...

Posted October 8, 2013

Gramme - Ocsober? Sorry, but bwahahahaha!

*wipes eyes*

My apologies.

Prof - that's too bad. Be comforted by the fact that Mr Bangar provided me with a bottle of improved water on the weekend after some of us burgerers attended the felafel play. A good drop it is too. The play was great.

Darth Greybeard mutters...

Posted October 8, 2013

Mr Bangar's improved water is a thing of beauty. In fact, I might have a spoonful now. Makes your beard soft and curly y'know.

Bangar mumbles...

Posted October 8, 2013

Thanks for the kind words Gents, in the midst of some honey bourbon production.

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan mumbles...

Posted October 9, 2013

Bangar's honey bourbon?!? Jesus Christ, mate, you're killing me here.

NBlob swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted October 9, 2013

Dammit. I knew I was at the wrong end of the lunch table. Must get me some of Bangar's water+.

Therbs puts forth...

Posted October 9, 2013

NB - its a smooth drop. Going to have to ration it out.

Yeah, right. As if that's gonna work.

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan has opinions thus...

Posted October 9, 2013

A very smooth drop. I share mine with no one.

Bangar would have you know...

Posted October 9, 2013

Again with the kind words ;) PNB I've got a bottle of honey bourbon with your name on it ... the last of that run ... you only have to collect it. A minor detail I'm sure.

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan puts forth...

Posted October 10, 2013

Hold onto it. It may take some time, but I intend on collecting it myself.

NBlob has opinions thus...

Posted October 10, 2013

You also have an island that is awaiting you, if you recall.

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan mumbles...

Posted October 10, 2013

Can I combine the two? That would make scheduling much easier.

Bangar mumbles...

Posted October 10, 2013

I don't know about the combining, but your brew is safe.

Abe Frellman is gonna tell you...

Posted October 11, 2013

Bangar, any tips for the amateur blender? I've had a crack at a drambuie with ok results. Product is a little cloudy, could this be too much honey? Also, how imperative is it to fill the cask? Is air the enemy?

Bangar puts forth...

Posted October 12, 2013

Haven't had any issues with oxidisation Abe, and a good tip is a stainless funnel and coffee filters. Honey always leaves particulates so filtering helps the appearance. Best of luck.

Abe Frellman asserts...

Posted October 12, 2013

Thanks for the tips. Yes I used poaching bags for filters as I was out of coffee filters, so maybe that was part of the issue. Basically I just decided to experiment with a big bottle of Grants and a few other blended whiskers that people had given me thinking I like all whiskies...hmmm. Anyway I let some herbs and honey steep in the bottle for a week before barrelling it. Ultimately I will put something fortified in the barrel - this was really about cleaning out the nasties from a second hand barrel.

Bangar asserts...

Posted October 13, 2013

1 litre of whiskey

2 cups orange honey

3.5 tablespoons whole coriander seeds

1) Combine all ingredients in a sterilized jar. Seal and shake vigorously until honey has disolved completey

2) Store in a cool dark place for a month shaking occasionally

3 )Strain and bottle

4) Enjoy. I haven't made this recipe but it comes from a good source.

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Lobes would have you know...

Posted October 8, 2013

Its on tap at the Rainbow in Melbourne. I'll grab one with dinner tomorrow ($14 steak night)

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Rhino swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted October 9, 2013

Why the name "The Old Persuader"?

NBlob would have you know...

Posted October 9, 2013

Mr Rhino, sir.

The Old Persuader is Birmo's pet name for, well it's a bit delicate with ladies present. Lets say The other Bald Man, the one eye'd trouser python, little Birmo, the baby maker, the pendulum.

I doubt most who neck this drop would know they have their lips on Birmo's euphemism.

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan ducks in to say...

Posted October 9, 2013

I don't care what you say. I still want some.

Therbs would have you know...

Posted October 9, 2013

Paul I'd send you some but alcohol can't be sent via mail or courier to the U.S. Same goes for foodstuffs. That's 'cos your customs johnnies are meanies.

Brother PorkChop ducks in to say...

Posted October 10, 2013

They aren't working full time at the moment so might be a good time to slip some Old Persuader into the Prof.

NBlob asserts...

Posted October 11, 2013

boom tishboom tish

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Dino not to be confused with swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted October 10, 2013

There is an outlet 15 minutes away.

Tomorrow I will try this amber rose`.

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w from brisbane mutters...

Posted October 11, 2013

I am sitting here sipping on a glass of The Old Persuader. I am not a reviewer of food and beverages. I prefer just to eat and drink, but I'll give some impressions.

First, the bad news, it's $12 a bottle. No, that was not a typo, $12 for a 500 ml bottle of beer. I cancelled the family holiday for this year and bought 2 bottles. I bought it at my nearest listed outlet. The Stewarts Wine Co. at the Barracks in Brisbane. It is a fancy grog shop. Maybe it is cheaper elsewhere. But, even the staff at the shop were a little agog at the price.

It is a very nice beer. I drink lots of different beers and I haven't tasted a beer with a flavour quite like it. Not an intense flavour in the mouth, but the flavour says with you long after the swallow, not in a bad way. Oh yes, I could drink a lot of these, if I could afford it. It would go well with food. Something gamey, I think. I think it would taste great with some kangaroo steaks. A very nice and interesting beer.

w from brisbane ducks in to say...

Posted October 11, 2013

p.s. JB's text on the bottle is excellent and the whole design looks great. Very distinctive.

w from brisbane swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted October 11, 2013

I'm on to the wine now and am in a philosophical mood.

Now, I reiterate, the Old Persuader is a very nice beer.
But, $12 for 500 ml. I can get Chimay Blue for cheaper than that, and it is 9% (alc/vol).
And Chimay Blue is made by Trappist Monks in a Abbey in Belgium! Not beer made by a bunch of old stoners in Byron Bay. (no disrespect intended and I am just speculating).
It just makes me wonder, whatever happened to the sixties?

Bangar swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted October 11, 2013

Ouch Cooper's Vintage is half the price and a very good beer to boot.

Abe Frellman puts forth...

Posted October 11, 2013

Look at it this way. You could probably get some cheap kangaroo if you live near a major highway and with the money you save on steak for your next barbecue, you could afford to get pissed on it. I can recommend some good mortgage lenders if you have equity in your house that you would like to, ahem, liquefy, if you REALLY want to tie one on.

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Brother PorkChop has opinions thus...

Posted October 11, 2013

Good luck with that Dino. I am completely over dropping into Harry Browns to see if it has arrived yet. Each time it is not there but so far I have 2 bottles of red, a slab of James Squire Sundown Lager and a bottle of Angostura 1812 rum. Too friggin broke now for the Old Frickin Persuader!!

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Abe Frellman would have you know...

Posted October 11, 2013

JB,

For what they're selling them for in the ACT, we should do a little side deal on your private stash. Currently the going rate is half a dozen slightly used flats in Lyneham, formerly occupied by AusAid / Dept Climate Change power couples, to the 500ml Pursuader.

Roger Moore DOES personally pour said libation down the purchaser's gullet though, right?

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NBlob reckons...

Posted October 11, 2013

Brother Pork Chop and Comrade W pose an interesting question.

What can a respectable man spend on elbow grease?

I have friend with a taste for hundred dollar bottles of red. Others drive a lesser car or eat lesser steaks so their weekends include Asashi, Peroni or similar imported beerage. I won't drink cheap vodka, but can't justify the $200/bottles. Excellent they may be, but like scallops, Wagyu & coral trout I can't justify it to myself or SWMBO on a frequent basis.

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John Birmingham puts forth...

Posted October 11, 2013
Twelve bucks a bottle? Holy shit! I'm looking at the two cartons I got by courier today and thinking they might find their way onto the black market.

w from brisbane swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted October 12, 2013

Though I can see on this web page, the Park Hotel at Werribee is offering schooners of The Old Persuader for $6.

So, I am now a little confused

http://theparkhotel.net.au/

Abe Frellman mumbles...

Posted October 12, 2013

In all seriousness, Plonk has Old Persuader for $9.90 a throw...clearly going with a two per customer rationing approach as a hat tip to its workers' paradise locale, rather than letting market forces decide. He laughed when I asked the 'case price' after he told me the unit price. "They only sent me two cases, so there is no such thing as a case price!" Now to convince my wife to go get me another brace before they run out. One is chilling in the fridge to have with tonight's roast beef extravaganza.

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JG mumbles...

Posted October 15, 2013

Congrats on your new beer, JB. Hilarious that it's named The Old Persuader. We all know where that comes from. Very cheeky. Good luck with it. I haven't tried it yet but the bottle, label, and marketing of it (eg freshly mown grass) are great.

P.S. Knocked off all my Fitbit friends, you included. Also deleted my Twitter acc

John Birmingham mumbles...

Posted October 15, 2013

My fitbit died on me for two weeks.

JG asserts...

Posted October 15, 2013

Oh. Bummer. I jumped ship too soon. Well, invite me again to re friend you on Fitbit then. You'll have to do so through my email: name at gmail (j....g.....@gmail.com). I can't invite you now, seeing as you're off FarceBook.

I love the little gadget, and use it in conjunction with RunKeeper and MyAsics on my iPhone.

JG

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JG swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted October 15, 2013

^ spending less time online. Training for a full marathon,

P.S. My daughter, Tina, in her final wks of creative writing degree at QUT, is writing an essay ab

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JG is gonna tell you...

Posted October 15, 2013

... (Grrr... Internet keeps knocking me offline, soz)

.... Daughter's writing a uni essay about how you market yourself: ie the JB empire/franchise.

Must try The Old Pursuader.

JG :)

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Surtac reckons...

Posted October 17, 2013

Managed to cruise past Plonk on the way to work this morning - first opportunity I've had to get there. I suggest if Canberra region burgers want to try the Old Persuader, they get out there quickly.

The bag limit has been reduced to one bottle per customer, still at $9.90 per unit. And it took a lot of me spouting detail about the beer before he relented and admitted to having any. I don't think I got the last bottle (the case was on the floor behind the service counter) but he did seem to rummage around in it a bit before producing one.

I thought you ought to know. Any chance of a repeat batch, John, or is it strictly a one-off?

John Birmingham mutters...

Posted October 17, 2013

Pretty sure it's a oncer, tac.

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Surtac has opinions thus...

Posted December 22, 2013

A bit of an epilogue to my tale of beer acquisition woe as above.

I was out at Fyshwick Markets this morning, hunting and gathering ahead of Christmas. I dropped into Plonk as you do, because I could and because it's full of beer.

Well, guess what? There were four, yes four, bottles of the Old Persuader lurking on the shelf grinning at me. Of course I grabbed them all, along with two bottles of whatever was next to them (some Red Duck black IPA thing) to get me the 6 bottle 10% discount thingy, and chortled my way to the register and out.

So I know what I'll be drinking with Christmas lunch. Ho ho ho!

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