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Chinese Moonshot

Posted December 17, 2013 into Blunty by John Birmingham

Glass of water for Mr Havock!

Because China going to the moon is one of the best things happening on this cockamamie planet right now.

At Blunty.

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w from brisbane swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted December 17, 2013

The Chinese Govt is very active everywhere.
At the end of the most sketchy path in every remote place you will some Chinese people doing stuff.
I was only watching a surf travel clip the other week. A foolhardy surfer dude filming himself, on a surf hunt, broken down in his 4 wheel drive, in the Angolan desert.
"I think I am in trouble" he said, "I have been here for hours and the car won't start. The only people who have driven past are Chinese and they don't seem to stop."

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Lobes mumbles...

Posted December 17, 2013

Kind of on topic this report by citibank predicting a decline in chinese demand for coal.

"The limit to coal use appears to be how much pollution the Chinese population is willing to tolerate"

http://www.resilience.org/stories/2013-09-12/peak-coal-in-china#

pitpat reckons...

Posted December 17, 2013

Maybe, although putting scrubbers on the stacks might also be an idea. I think -although probably wrong- that it wasn't until the US introduced the clean air act that visual polltuion was significantly reduced. Arguably emmision controls on vehicles, smelters and heavy manufacturing might also improve the situation. The obituary for King coal has been written before but he still rules the grid.

Lobes asserts...

Posted December 17, 2013

King Coal doesnt have the political power in China that he does in Australia and elsewhere. I have no doubt it will continue to play a major part in the Chinese economy but if competitors like gas and renewables really take off the Chinese will have no problems at all just walking away from massive coal projects. Thats not going to happen in Australia the billionaires would never allow it.

Theres a bit of a trend developing here though. If the Chinese can even semi-successfully transfer to a low-carbon economy it gives them massive, massive soft power. They currently lead in space exploration, have made big leaps in environmentalism and have a 30 year record of improving human rights. Maybe in eons to come they will talk of how the Chinese saved the global climate and the SInoPax that followed.

John Birmingham would have you know...

Posted December 17, 2013

I almost wrote about this today. The was an HIGH-larious peice on site yesterday about the those dastardly Chinese not buying and burning enough of our coal anymore. Green pinko bastards.

pitpat reckons...

Posted December 17, 2013

Yep Lobes, the energy mix is changing and hopefully for the better. In Chinas case it will probably be led by nuclear -initially conventional then probably Thorium. As far as I can tell apart from Hydro the rest of the renewables are window dressing

The other big change that I see is from the US with development/exploitation of their natural gas resources which in all likelyhood they will be exporting to China (once they feel comfortable enough) and putting a big question mark over the economic viabiltiy of coal seam extraction in Eastern Aus.

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pitpat asserts...

Posted December 17, 2013

Good show chaps, nothing like a space race to pick up the spirits. Yep and I agree the sooner we are off this rock the safer we will be- species wise- individually we are all dead from the day we are born.

JG mumbles...

Posted December 17, 2013

I reckon people will be living on other planets in 200 to 300 years times, pitpat.

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Brother PorkChop mumbles...

Posted December 17, 2013

I remember way back when it was proposed that Straya build a shuttle out of a fibro housing commission house powered by 4 purple Valiant Chargers, manfully driven by a quartet of young Italian fellas. Maybe a last huzzah for the Holden factory in 2016 - 4 revved up Commodores?

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JG has opinions thus...

Posted December 17, 2013

... only 40 years late to the moon party. And did China plant a few random footprints on the moon? Hmm? Well? I don't think so. Still, all the best to them. I'm sure China and India will soon be world domineering superpowers, if they aren't already, now that the US and Australia (hoho) are free falling.

Mind you, the US is doing well on the space research/exploration front. I liked the US's cool high sky dive this year (or was it last year?). You know... where the astronaut jumped down from space? I think that was the US's gig. Now, it's off to Mars (international project). And, who can forget the Major Tom rendition by that super astronaut. Not into specifics right now: couldn't be arsed Googling the details. The UK's Richard Branson is onto a mega stunt too: planning space tourism, etc.

Carry on, China. May all moon monkeys shine. When it comes to space research and travel, I guess international boundaries sort of blur because it's a hugh undertaking and, really, a global success story, regardless of which nation carries out the work. A huge investment.

P.S. I remember watching the live TV broadcast of mankind's first landing on the moon when I was six. One small step...

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Surtac reckons...

Posted December 17, 2013

Must admit I'm very pleased to see humanity still aiming to get off this fragile rock.

I'm reminded of Jerry Pournelle's observation of some years ago: "I always knew I'd see the first man on the moon in my lifetime, but I never imagined I'd also see the last one."

Maybe he won't be disappointed after all.

Halwes ducks in to say...

Posted December 17, 2013

You wont be so happy when they start mining it!

SZF mumbles...

Posted December 18, 2013

Mine the shite out the bastard I say - our 4 billion year wait for revenge on his planet-killer parent Theia starts now!

Or...just get that sweet, sweet He3 for our to-be-built sweet fusion plants.

I'm good with either.

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Lobes mumbles...

Posted December 17, 2013

The Skydive from Space was by an Austrian athlete sponsored by an Austrian soft drink company. Major Tom aka David Bowie is British and the live version from ISS was performed by a Canadian astronaut.

Fascinating how you all think they're from the USA. Its not a stretch to see a potential future where China owns your mind the same way the USA does now.

Murphy asserts...

Posted December 17, 2013

They already do for many Americans.

It is called Wal-Mart.

Respects,

Murph

On the Outer Marches

JG asserts...

Posted December 17, 2013

Excellent, Lobes. Thanks for setting the record straight. :)

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Therbs swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted December 17, 2013

They already own mine. Tsingtao beer. End of.

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camel lot swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted December 17, 2013

Don't know what's better, space commies or space nazis:

http://youtu.be/Py_IndUbcxc

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Brother PorkChop asserts...

Posted December 17, 2013

Not sure how to get from Chinese folk on the moon to this but what the hell...

http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2013/12/pouring-hot-aluminum-into-an-ant-hill-reveals-its-secret-hidden-beauty/

Dick has opinions thus...

Posted December 18, 2013

Don't care how you got there, maybe mining? But what a great use for all my empty beer cans!

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ShaneAlpha is gonna tell you...

Posted December 17, 2013

What's better then Communism you ask?

SPACE COMMUNISM!

Because, like, space.

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Dino not to be confused with mumbles...

Posted December 17, 2013

w,

I'll buy it if I get the chickybabe doing interpretive dancing (in an American accent).

I have a weakness for 'art'.

w from brisbane mumbles...

Posted December 17, 2013

Dino.
You hear the inherent call to seek, push, improve and transcend. You, like mankind, are aspirational. You look to the road untravelled. Like Acura, you are guided by the necessities of the human spirit on its great journey. To strive, to seek, to find and not to yield. You are an inspiration to the whole planet as we spin through this infinite universe.
But, as regards your request. No.

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libber8 has opinions thus...

Posted December 18, 2013

Someone should tell the Chinese about this

http://www.haynes.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10001&storeId=10001&productId=58053&langId=-1

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