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Morons ruining everything

Posted December 20, 2013 into Science and Tech by John Birmingham

The internet is cool, except for they way it lets ignorant munters feel like they're anything other than ignorant munters. But the internet is also cool because sometimes it learns 'em. It learns 'em good.

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68 Responses to ‘Morons ruining everything’

insomniac swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted December 20, 2013

I think that's excellent.

I feel the same way when morons start talking about fluoridation of water and how the stuff THEY use is a DEADLY POISON and DID you KNOW there are 8643 FLOURINE compounds.

Then you have to teach them about covalent and ionic fluorine, etc etc

Murphy asserts...

Posted December 20, 2013

Fluoridation, corrupts the bodily fluids, you know.

Respects,

Murph

On the Outer Marches

ShaneAlpha swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted December 20, 2013

Blame Texans for flouridation. Damn them and their lack of cavities due to natural flouridation of their water.

insomniac is gonna tell you...

Posted December 20, 2013

Not sure if Murph is serious or pulling my leg ... spelled fluoridation correctly so not obviously a nutter ... been drinking fluoridated water all my life and I'm jhgsge ... jj houwqihwg jhkjn iuiundjiUHQW ...

damian mutters...

Posted December 20, 2013

Ever seen a commie drink water, insomniac?

Sooner or later we all take a turn as the Group Captain Mandrake to someone's General Ripper.

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan mumbles...

Posted December 21, 2013

Damien, do you realize that in addition to fluoridating water, there are studies underway to fluoridate salt, flour, fruit juices, soup, sugar, milk, ice cream? Ice cream, Damien. Children's ice cream.

You know when fluoridation began? 1946. 1946, Damien. How does that coincide with your post-war Commie conspiracy? It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual, and certainly without any choice. That's the way your hard-core Commie works.

I first became aware of it during the physical act of love. A profound sense of fatigue, a feeling of emptiness followed. Luckily I was able to interpret these feelings correctly. Loss of essence.

I can assure you it has not recurred. Women sense my power, and they seek the life essence. I do not avoid women, Damien, but I do deny them my essence.

Brian asserts...

Posted December 21, 2013

Paul, I believe it's more correct to say that woman know about your life essence and instead go along with your unspoken wishes.

Female wisdom . . .you have to acknowledge it.

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted December 21, 2013

I don't "have" to do anything. You aren't the boss of me.

insomniac has opinions thus...

Posted December 21, 2013

After an evening of drinking "flavored" water at the Christmas party I must have fallen victim to said fluoridation. I have headaches, loss of essence, and generally suffering, not to mention the free wisdom being dished out by the resident female

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Brian has opinions thus...

Posted December 20, 2013

Wonderful.

I'm old school, in so far . . .'your choice, your problem'. Except when it come to urban superstition that harms others

But . . .unhappily, stupid ignorant munters will always be with us.

As an aside . . .little mention has been made about the uselessness of hand sanitisers (modern equivalent of holy water), and vitamin supplements (holy wafers). Use soap, eat right . . .how hard is that.

ShaneAlpha would have you know...

Posted December 20, 2013

Or in most cases they can combine the two and eat soap.

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Chaz mutters...

Posted December 20, 2013

As the worlds population expands so does the number of fkwits.

pitpat mumbles...

Posted December 20, 2013

And geniuses.

ShaneAlpha reckons...

Posted December 20, 2013

and serial killers.

Barnesm would have you know...

Posted December 21, 2013

and genius serial killers

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Durand swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted December 20, 2013

Can we start calling this sort of thing "Santa-Biotics"?

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Bangar swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted December 20, 2013

More off than on I think MIQFB is required, Minium IQ For Breathing/Breeding (users choice).

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NBlob swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted December 20, 2013

When Not tending the elephants #10000, I am proudly of 2nd regiment 1st phalanx Rapid reaction hippy stomping force.

I will not tolerate antiscience nor magical thinking. You can Believe whatever the hell you like; 1 Dog, No Dog, a cornucopia of Dogs. You can rub blue mud into your bellybutton till the cows come home, you can shoose not to eat cows. I couldn't care less. seriously 0.0 Give a Sh!t factor.

But.

When you start huckstering magic cures, pimping antiscience or deliberately obsfucating the truth, strap your offended-pants on because Thee & Me are at war.

My alltime favourite stupidism is "Science is just One way of knowing something." My 2nd is "Arn't sciematists changing thier minds all the time?"

My snark was bred to hunt stupid, I used to hood her beak and mitt her claws so as to minimise the harm done to stupid peddlers, but these days she goes out unhindered. I count the Unfriended statuses @farcebook like scalps.

Nocturnalist has opinions thus...

Posted December 20, 2013

+++My alltime favourite stupidism is "Science is just One way of knowing something." My 2nd is "Arn't sciematists changing thier minds all the time?"+++

Puts me in mind of a Chick tract where a poor misguided science-type shows a model dinosaur off to an evangelist, talking about how much fun palaeontology is. The next couple of panels go something like:

"Ah, but did you know that scientists keep changing their minds about what dinosaurs were like, and even disagree with one another regularly?"

"WHAT?! But... but that means I can never believe anything any scientist says ever again!"

The tract finishes with the former dinosaur enthusiast on his knees on the laboratory floor, sobbing brokenly and begging Jesus to forgive him for ever having listened to the scientists' lies.

A co-worker of mine has distilled it down a little further than that. Start talking about anything like this around him and he simply sneers "Oh. Right. Scientists." and that's the end of that chapter.

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan asserts...

Posted December 22, 2013

I don't trust scientists because they are the only ones who get to do science.

Chaz reckons...

Posted December 23, 2013

well Paul you did choose to become a lawyer....

I'm certain there's an applied particle physics MSc out there with your name on it!

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MickH swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted December 20, 2013

This is very similiar to the problems the telecommunications industry is having with the mum lead 'not near our kids' mobile phone tower pomgrom.

Its all based on the writings of a dead NZ engineer that was primarily writing about EME from high power transmission lines which is a completely different duck.

The delicious irony is not lost on engineers though. The same mums encourage their offspring to use mobile phones. So which is capable of the possiblity of more damage? (there is no proof of any damage) the tramsmitter your are holding next to your ear or the one a K away?

Tweeky reckons...

Posted December 24, 2013

I remember back in engineering school (I did electrical and electronic engineering) in one of my classes we calculated how close to a cellphone bases-tower you'd have to be get a dangerous dose of microwave radiation and it out to be 12", a foot. That's right, to get a dangerous dose you have to stand a foot in front of the base-tower antenna to get "Microwaved".

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Dino not to be confused with reckons...

Posted December 20, 2013

I am a Moron.

There is a risk with every single 'action' and little Science is absolute.

There is a risk with vaccinations.

Some people have had adverse reactions.

It comes down to probabilities.

Don't get me wrong I am pro Vaccination.

Dino not to be confused with reckons...

Posted December 20, 2013

But the Flouride in Water?

Really it helps teeth?

Really?

Byron City Council doesn't agree.

What we should do is drop a "active' element to reduce obesity.

What is the real health problem here?

Aluminum waste?

Therbs swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted December 23, 2013

Byron Council? You take notice of Byron Fucking Council? You do realise they are a prime bunch of anti science fuckwits.

Dino not to be confused with is gonna tell you...

Posted December 23, 2013

Therbs,

I couldn't agree more but their efforts in sustaining the last vestiges of the Melany Hippie Population should be supported.

"Hippies are people too"

Don't get me wrong I love avocados and macadamias but soon you won't be able to see the Glass House Mountains for coffee trees and Barista carts.

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sibeen mumbles...

Posted December 20, 2013

Just recently there has been a minor victory in the never ending war against fuckwits. The Australian Vaccination Network (sic) has been ordered to change its name. I'm of the belief that the court should also have ordered Meryl Dorey to be blown the fuck up, but more reasoned people who I sometimes associate with think that I can get a tad extreme...as if.

One minor quibble with the linked post. Smallpox...it's gone. Unless some evil scientist is stockpilling some variant around somewhere, humanity shouldn't have to put up with this scrouge again.

Yah SCIENCE!

Bangar would have you know...

Posted December 20, 2013

Not quite gone still samples aroung in labs, but eridacted in the wild.

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Dino not to be confused with is gonna tell you...

Posted December 20, 2013

OK JB,

I go up to the local playing my Christmas Present to myself(High Voltage ACDC) on fkn 11 and it sounds perfect on my ute stereo, and the fkn Hilltop Hoods 'accost me' and flash 'green 100 doallar bills at me Jb!

Now you control them JB.

I don't care if they have a fkn Jack Russel.

As Murph says- "there willl be Blood"

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Dino not to be confused with is gonna tell you...

Posted December 20, 2013

Any way the HillTop Hoods are fkn Millionare Cocksuckers.

Make a mention next podcast JB.

They have my address.

Chickenshit Losers

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Dino not to be confused with has opinions thus...

Posted December 20, 2013

And we won't talk about Nelson Street Annadale 1984?

We Won't talk about Warriewood or the Shangri La.

We won't talk about it,

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Dino not to be confused with ducks in to say...

Posted December 20, 2013

Merry Chritmas ASio,

Sio like Uncle.

The Man from...

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Dino not to be confused with is gonna tell you...

Posted December 20, 2013

That noise you here is a Submarine Claxon.

"Dive Dive"

Hahahahah.

More info on request....

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Zygmunt Kletterstein mutters...

Posted December 21, 2013

But the Hippies love Ayurvedic medicine. And that's full of the use of Mercury and similar elements and horrids.

Huzzah!

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pi asserts...

Posted December 21, 2013

If chemicals were bad for you, they wouldn't be so expensive.

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drej reckons...

Posted December 21, 2013

OT, Manteresting is shutting down for the time being. Great site I found courtesy of this blog. Webtime productivity levels looking healthier.

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Dick is gonna tell you...

Posted December 23, 2013

I actually like the English Professors writing excercise further down.

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Tweeky asserts...

Posted December 24, 2013

I have no time for these wilfully ignorant anti-vaccine retards and any who refuses to have their kid(s) be vaccinated (Unless for valid medical reasons) should be held legal liable and to account if any of their kids get sick and die or even worse cause other kids to get sick and maybe. I've got Asperger's syndrome but it sure as hell doesn't come from vaccines (Mum made she we got all our shots) it's an inherited neurological condition on the upper end of the Autism spectrum. I also have no time for these anti-fluoridation retards who're basing their views on false and disproven science and wooly thinking.

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Scratching my Head would have you know...

Posted December 24, 2013

Does this mean the elixir of the gods is bad for me as there are no heavy metals or trace elements in it other than hops, yeast and purified mountain spring water?

I shall commence eating toothpaste to make up for this immediately.

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Conspiracy Cat mumbles...

Posted December 26, 2013

My oldest son is autistic. His autism WAS caused by vaccination, and there's not a person in this world who can convince me otherwise.

Surtac has opinions thus...

Posted December 26, 2013

Sorry, I can't believe that. Both my girls are high-functioning ASD and vaccination was most definitely not the issue. The eldest, 20yo - Aspie and ADD, was (in hindsight) obvious immediately post-partum, but the diagnosis took a few years. The youngest - 13yo, Aspie and ADHD, was again obvious but we only got a diagnosis after pre-school.

IIRC, the vaccination 'theory' only appeared after my eldest was born,, but was thoroughly and officially debunked a few years ago - when the so-called researcher was found to have invented his 'results'. The refutation was in The Lancet I believe.

I know where my daughters got their 'autism'. It wasn't from vaccination - they got it from me.

NBlob puts forth...

Posted December 26, 2013

Miss CC, with great respect you may as well blame the stars ,or the fluoride.

There is simply no medical means by which A can lead to B.

Some kids, a vanishingly small % have a reaction: rash, elevated temperature, all the symptons of a allergenic response. A further tiny minority of Those kids a tiny group have a strong reaction, like a flu.

But one may as well blame a broken leg on the imunisation.

If you choose to believe one led to the other, there's probably nothing I can say or do to convince you otherwise, but I beg you, don't tell other parents to Not immunise their kids.

Tweeky ducks in to say...

Posted December 27, 2013

Miss CC aside from the fact you clearly are a gullible fool who has believed all that anti-vaccine BS (Including Jenny McCarthy's erroneous belief that the MMR shot caused her child's Aspergers) which has been debunked in the so called http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMR_vaccine_controversy which started with the publication of a now debinked and discredited paper by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Wakefield who has now subsequently been deregistered for proffessional misconduct. He'd published his paper with the intent of discrediting the MMR vaccine so that he and fellow co-conspirators could then profit off their own new autism-linked tests and their own new vaccine, unfortunately his actions have caused enormous damage and it's a near certainty that children have died from treatable infections either due to a) not being vaccinated or b) catching them from unvaccinated children.

Now as i've said in a previous post I have Asperger's syndrome (An inherited neurological disorder) and I also have aspects of adult ADHD, it is quite common for people with Asperger's who also have aspects of related neurological disoders such as ADHD, OCD, and Tourettes. I have one brother who has ADHD and the other who is "Ghosted" (Asperger's personality) where he has some but not all of the key traits of Asperger's, the only one out of my siblings who's neurologically typical (NT for short) a fancy term for normal is my sister.

I seriously and very strenuously suggest that you go and educate yourself about Asperger's syndrome as you're clearly quite ignorant and misinformed about what causes it (It's an inherited condition), so please stop parading your wilfull ignorance. If you live in Australia then I recommend you take him to Dr. Tony Atwood (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Tony_Attwood) a specialist dealing with children who're Asperger's or High Functioning Autistics and here's his website (http://www.tonyattwood.com.au), he has written some excellent books and i've met him at several Asperger's conferences in New Zealand and he is an excellent speaker

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Conspiracy Cat has opinions thus...

Posted December 27, 2013

tweeky, those sorts of insults are uncalled-for. My son does not have Asbergers, nor does he have ADHD or ODD. He is Autistic. It WAS caused by immunisation. I was there. I saw what happened. No study by alleged experts can ever convince me or anybody else who was there that we are wrong.

Vaccines are poison. They can cause illness, permanent disability or even death. Unfortunately, the diseases they are meant to protect children from can also cause permanent disability or death. It's a difficult choice for any parent to make: put poison in your baby, or risk seeing him/her suffer from a preventable disease. Getting emotive and calling people names because they say something you don't agree with only makes it harder for them to make an informed choice.

Not that it's easy to make an informed choice. Pretty much every website has an agenda for or against immunisation. All have 'proof' that their point of view is the only 'right' one, and anyone who disagrees with them 'doesn't love their children'. In an ideal world, there would be a website with ALL the pros and cons, so that parents could make an informed choice without all the emotive pressure.

But then, in an ideal world, there would be no disease.

NBob, I would not dream of telling anybody whether or not to vaccinate their kids. I only have the right to make that call for my own kids. Incidentally, after much careful research, I did have my subsequent children immunised. Vaccines are poison, yes, but given the resurgence of some of the more insidious diseases, I felt immunisation was the lesser of the two evils.

It's worth noting that in Victoria, the chicken pox virus has mutated and the vaccine provided by the government has no effect whatsoever. Three years on, and there is still no effective vaccine for the new strain. So I would advise adults who have not had chicken pox to stay out of Victoria during December and January, when the virus is doing the rounds.

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Conspiracy Cat swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted December 27, 2013

tweeky, those sorts of insults are uncalled-for. My son does not have Asbergers, nor does he have ADHD or ODD. He is Autistic. It WAS caused by immunisation. I was there. I saw what happened. No study by alleged experts can ever convince me or anybody else who was there that we are wrong.

Vaccines are poison. They can cause illness, permanent disability or even death. Unfortunately, the diseases they are meant to protect children from can also cause permanent disability or death. It's a difficult choice for any parent to make: put poison in your baby, or risk seeing him/her suffer from a preventable disease. Getting emotive and calling people names because they say something you don't agree with only makes it harder for them to make an informed choice.

Not that it's easy to make an informed choice. Pretty much every website has an agenda for or against immunisation. All have 'proof' that their point of view is the only 'right' one, and anyone who disagrees with them 'doesn't love their children'. In an ideal world, there would be a website with ALL the pros and cons, so that parents could make an informed choice without all the emotive pressure.

But then, in an ideal world, there would be no disease.

NBob, I would not dream of telling anybody whether or not to vaccinate their kids. I only have the right to make that call for my own kids. Incidentally, after much careful research, I did have my subsequent children immunised. Vaccines are poison, yes, but given the resurgence of some of the more insidious diseases, I felt immunisation was the lesser of the two evils.

It's worth noting that in Victoria, the chicken pox virus has mutated and the vaccine provided by the government has no effect whatsoever. Three years on, and there is still no effective vaccine for the new strain. So I would advise adults who have not had chicken pox to stay out of Victoria during December and January, when the virus is doing the rounds.

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Conspiracy Cat would have you know...

Posted December 27, 2013

tweeky, those sorts of insults are uncalled-for. My son does not have Asbergers, nor does he have ADHD or ODD. He is Autistic. It WAS caused by immunisation. I was there. I saw what happened. No study by alleged experts can ever convince me or anybody else who was there that we are wrong.

Vaccines are poison. They can cause illness, permanent disability or even death. Unfortunately, the diseases they are meant to protect children from can also cause permanent disability or death. It's a difficult choice for any parent to make: put poison in your baby, or risk seeing him/her suffer from a preventable disease. Getting emotive and calling people names because they say something you don't agree with only makes it harder for them to make an informed choice.

Not that it's easy to make an informed choice. Pretty much every website has an agenda for or against immunisation. All have 'proof' that their point of view is the only 'right' one, and anyone who disagrees with them 'doesn't love their children'. In an ideal world, there would be a website with ALL the pros and cons, so that parents could make an informed choice without all the emotive pressure.

But then, in an ideal world, there would be no disease.

NBob, I would not dream of telling anybody whether or not to vaccinate their kids. I only have the right to make that call for my own kids. Incidentally, after much careful research, I did have my subsequent children immunised. Vaccines are poison, yes, but given the resurgence of some of the more insidious diseases, I felt immunisation was the lesser of the two evils.

It's worth noting that in Victoria, the chicken pox virus has mutated and the vaccine provided by the government has no effect whatsoever. Three years on, and there is still no effective vaccine for the new strain. So I would advise adults who have not had chicken pox to stay out of Victoria during December and January, when the virus is doing the rounds.

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Tweeky has opinions thus...

Posted December 27, 2013

Are you trying to spam this thread Miss CC because you've posted the same post three times.

"My son does not have Asbergers, nor does he have ADHD or ODD. He is Autistic."

You clearly have not paid any attention to the relevant detailes of my previous post, Asperger's, ADHD, OCD, Tourettes and a few other neurological disorders are all closely related and so is Autism. Asperger's syndrome is at the upper end of what's called "Autism Spectrum Disorder" (Emphasis on Spectrum) where at the bottom end is classic (Or Low functioning Autism) Autism where the person (Usually male) is locked into their own world is totally, or almost totally non-repsonsive, and in the middle is High-functioning Autism (Think of Rain Man as an example). You really should see one of the meetings I've gone to which is the local Asperger's support group and there's a huge variation plus there're a few high-functioning autistics there too. I might add that most of the people at my support group would have very little, if any, time at all for your eroneous belief the your son's vaccinations caused his autism, I suggest you look to both sides of his family and see if any of his relatives (Likely to be male) exhibit characteristics of ASD.

"It WAS caused by immunisation."

No. It. Is. Not. Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD for short) are an overwhelmingly inherited neurologically condition, sure environmental factors can aggravate it (Plus bad parenting) but it is still an inherited condition.

"Vaccines are poison. They can cause illness, permanent disability or even death. blah blah rant rant"

No, a properly designed and tested vaccine isn't poison and you also don't seem to understand that there is no such thing as a 100% safe medicine, no matter how well designed it is you'll always get a very small portion of those who're treated who have adverse reactions. As for getting emotive and calling you names i'm getting sick and tired of both those who purpetuate the anti-vaccine propanganda for their own selfish reasons and those who are stupid and gullible enough to swallow that rubbish hook, line, and sinker. Also you should look into the mirror when you acuse someone of getting emotional as your reactions seem to be that and you've allowed them to get the better of you.

Now on a final note please look look up and read those wikipedia links I provided and also have a look into Dr. Tony Atwood.

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Conspiracy Cat swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted December 27, 2013

Perhaps, Tweeky, you should maybe shut the fuck up unless you have something useful to add to the debate. And no, your insults and nasty insinuations do not constitue 'useful'.

Tweeky is gonna tell you...

Posted December 27, 2013

I have something useful to say to this thread and I haven't been nasty, if I had you would have known about it. You clearly have have not bothered to read any of the information in the links i've posted and your reactions suggest that you're merely reacting and not thinking in a logical or reasonable manner at all which suggests you are beyond reason on this subject and are not capable of rationale response on the subject. The simple fact of the matter is that your son has an inherited neurological condition and you don't want to admit it but instead lock on to a convenient scape-goat (The MMR-vaccine) to blame for his condition. The simple fact of the matter is that vaccines have nothing to do with ASD and it can not be cured (Not without literally rewiring parts of the neocortex) but it can be treated with suitable therapies.

No, I will not shut the fuck up when I hear horse-shit being spouted from the likes of you who are willfully blind and can't admit they're wrong; I wouldn't be surprised if you were one of those twits who beleives in the Apollo moon-landing conspiracy.

Dino not to be confused with reckons...

Posted December 27, 2013

Tweeky,

I have never heard of the 'Moon Landing Conspiracy' but am fascinated to learn more about it.

Would you please describe it for me?

Keep in mind I have a Science Background.

Tweeky reckons...

Posted December 27, 2013

Thr "Moon Landing Conspiracy" refers to the various BS theories (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_landing_conspiracy) that various crackpots and nutjobs (Unfortunately one of my brothers believes in this conspiracy horseshit) who believe the whole Apollo-programme was an elaborate hoax (Never mind the overwelming evidence that it really did happen). A lot of these anti-vaccine nutjobs (And their idiot cousin anti-Flouride wackjobs) are of a similar variety to these "Moon Conspiracy" "Theorists" in the way way they manage to pull together unrelated facts, half-truthes, outright falsehoods and just general woolly thinking; something I suspect that Birmo has no time for.

Dino not to be confused with is gonna tell you...

Posted December 27, 2013

Thanks Tweeky,

I have found this-

http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/33900.html

Some people are 'Psyco' I have to admit.

One of the results of the conditions you describe, and I must confess I am a 'sufferer', is a reduction in people skills. I believe that some truths, even Scientific ones, change over time. Then there is the whole interpretation of data, the various schools of thought/paradigms and the net result(although with the best of intentions) of a muddle of discourse due to the Media or "interweb". Lots of crazy stuff on the interweb!

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Dino not to be confused with reckons...

Posted December 27, 2013

Captain,

Securty have a question-

Set Phasers to "Tis the Season to be Jolly"?

Or

"Fa lalala la la la la la"?

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NBlob reckons...

Posted December 27, 2013

Hm, conflicted. Part of me wants to leap to the defence of a lady in distress. Part of me wants to cheer on Tweeky.

Tweeky, round these here parts we tend to encourage the exchange of opinions of others with (often feigned) respect. Many of us hold opinions anathema to others, but the Gothic throws open its doors to some of the outliers in the political, economic, fiscal & foreign policy spectra. To date the closest we'd had to outliers in the health care field was some who chiropract & one yoga fiend who eats meat rarely enough to engender suspicion. Now Miss CC has laid out her opinions. It's up to us to convince her if we can and give her space to pursue her own road to hell if we can't.

Re: the multiple post thing, our electron-wright isn't at his best at the moment. I've been having problems for a fortnight or so. I may have broken him by using the Cryllic alphabet. For instance it's taken me 3 attempts (so far) to post this.

Miss CC, Tweeky has an abrupt choice of words. I won't apologise on his or her behalf, but I'd urge you to shelve your offence. People tend to react very strongly when discussing fields like this. Especially if they have near & dear ones affected &/or afflicted.

Please read the links. Consider the opinion of experts in the field, especially those with nothing to gain. When the best science available says A can't lead to B I suggest it'd be worth looking into.

NBlob is gonna tell you...

Posted December 28, 2013

They done gone runded orf. I guess I missed the boat.

AuntyLou swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted December 29, 2013

I think you just did a good job of cooling down an overheated (and possibly no-win) argument. And you are right about this blog...it is nothing if not polite. And I for one am very grateful that airing an opinion doesn't get one ostracised - being the contrary cow that I am! So good on you NBlob.

NBlob mutters...

Posted December 29, 2013

Thank you AuntyLou

One of the reasons I started hanging out here, several otherwise productive years ago, was the reasonable and respectful exchanges between Burgers holding diagrammatically opposing points of view. MckinneyTexas is one of those Unreconstructed Mao Tse Tung fans, who think the cultural revolution was a Western Imperialist Media beat up, and the Workers Paradise is just around the corner. Whereas Riech Marshal Boylan wants the western world culturally cleansed and wouldn't be agin nuking the Middle East if it facilitated access to our oil. Comrade Damian thinks the only good tree is one on a pulp ship heading for China and Havoc wants all military spending redirected to growing dope.

Or something like that.

;)

Brian reckons...

Posted December 29, 2013

Fishing must be bad up your way NBlob.

Theres such a thing as a cricket match to watch for some of us.

NBlob would have you know...

Posted December 29, 2013

You know those hot afternoons where baiting the hook seems like too much effort? That.

damian swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted December 29, 2013

Sounds about right. Farken trees.

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Paul_Nicholas_Boylan mutters...

Posted December 29, 2013

Cat - None of this matters. Tweeky doesn't know you, doesn't know us, doesn't understand that you are a cherished and honored part of this place. Lori and I love you, and stand behind you. Period.

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NBlob would have you know...

Posted December 29, 2013

*arches eyebrow*

damian reckons...

Posted December 29, 2013

No matter, we all can't ignore that down-south place forever after all

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Jayanthi's Atomic Cat has opinions thus...

Posted January 9, 2014

Very interesting perspective here from a Slate Magazine contributor: http://www.slate.com/articles/life/family/2014/01/growing_up_unvaccinated_a_healthy_lifestyle_couldn_t_prevent_many_childhood.html.

As a medical person, this sentence resonated with me: "If you think your child’s immune system is strong enough to fight off vaccine-preventable diseases, then it’s strong enough to fight off the tiny amounts of dead or weakened pathogens present in any of the vaccines."

I agree with the comment above that nothing in life (and medicine) is 100% safe, including vaccination. But my vote is still not to have children dying unnecessarily from preventable diseases.

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Posted January 24, 2014

I don't mean to keep adding things in here...but I found this and it's graphic. http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-mh-antivaccination-movement-20140120,0,5576371.story#axzz2r9L25Qe0

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