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The new Doctor

Posted August 25, 2014 into Telly by John Birmingham

Worked until 9.30 last night, trying to get the current manuscript out the door today. Rewarded myself with the latest episode of Dr Who on iView. I've only watched a handful of Smith/Tennant eps so there was a lot of backstory and fan service I knew I was missing in the opening scenes. (Who are these lesbian crime fighters, one lizard one not?)

But still, I enjoyed it hugely and thought the storyline about identity and its loss was deftly handled. Capaldi was great, although I did keep waiting for him to burst into obscenities. Maybe next week when the Daleks show up.

For now, it's back to that manuscript.

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Halwes puts forth...

Posted August 25, 2014

I also think Capaldi was a great doctor and the storyline was original and interesting. It got a bit soppy a couple of times but overall excellent.

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Murphy_of_Missouri mutters...

Posted August 25, 2014
I've got to admit that Dr. Who has left me cold since it went out of production in the 1990s. I've tried to warm up to the new series but without much luck.

I did watch the last bit of the new episode last night and I have to say his performance was first rate.

"I'm not your boyfriend," is a line I think many of us have been waiting to hear for years.

Respects,
Murph
On the Outer Marches

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JBtoo mumbles...

Posted August 25, 2014
It struggled to hold my attention, probably because I was a huge Matt Smith fan and it will take a while to accept Capaldi in the role. It was the same for me when Tennant took over from Ecclestone.

The best bit about the "I'm not your boyfriend" line was the follow up that he was reminding himself, not her.

Barnesm swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted August 25, 2014

+1

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Miss maudy reckons...

Posted August 25, 2014
I really struggled with the Matt Smith incarnation at first, mainly because he reminded me of someone I used to work with who was a completely gormless git who also used to flirt clumsily with ALL the girls, not because of anything wrong with his Doctor. I think it took me all of his first season to get my head around the fact he wasn't Azza with a dark wig!

So, I think I was more open minded this time to a new Doctor... I enjoyed the episode, I enjoyed all the past references, and there were a couple of moments toward the end where I started to feel like Peter Capaldi would be alright (when they went for coffee was one of them; and I liked the not your boyfriend line as well.)

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Therbs would have you know...

Posted August 25, 2014
Apparently there were quite a few disappointed whovians who had woken up for the 5.00 A.M. broadcast on Sunday. That's 5 fkn A fkn M on fkn Sunday. I'd be well disappointed too getting up that early for something which ain't live sport. Deserve whatever they get.

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Aaron swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted August 25, 2014
I have liked all the incarnations so far but Matt smith took a while as I think the writing has suffered since Russell Davies left as main writer after the end of tenant. The 50th anniversary ep got me back on board. I have a great feeling about capaldi. For next doctor I would live to see one who still solves with his smarts but is more uncompromising with his enemies. Ps and no more bloody daleks. They are done alright.

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Aaron ducks in to say...

Posted August 25, 2014
I have liked all the incarnations so far but Matt smith took a while as I think the writing has suffered since Russell Davies left as main writer after the end of tenant. The 50th anniversary ep got me back on board. I have a great feeling about capaldi. For next doctor I would live to see one who still solves with his smarts but is more uncompromising with his enemies. Ps and no more bloody daleks. They are done alright.

Dave W asserts...

Posted August 25, 2014

I can live without a cliffhanger season-ender featuring Daleks and/or Cyberman, too. In fact, I think I heard that they've aimed for storytelling is different and has a slower pace. So I hope this means that the baddies will be different, too.

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Bunyip asserts...

Posted August 25, 2014
The dinner invite / larder quip was golden.

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Barnesm ducks in to say...

Posted August 25, 2014
And excellently recapped by the indomitable Girl Clumsy.

Darth Greybeard has opinions thus...

Posted August 25, 2014
Girl Clumsy is totally domitable.

Barnesm swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted August 25, 2014
would you prefer the unsinkable girl clumsy?

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Boscolamb is gonna tell you...

Posted August 26, 2014
I'm slowly warming to Capaldi, but I hate the Scottish accent. To my American ear, entire sentences he'd rush through sounded like jibberish. Even rewinding the DVR didn't help. I think I'm not alone in this. I hope producers take note.

Halwes mumbles...

Posted August 26, 2014

Come off it. No one butchers the queen's ( god save her fascist soul ) english like the yanks. I have to use the sub titles when I watch American shows.

Lulu swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted August 26, 2014
I haven't watched the whole thing yet, but to my ears it sounded as if Capaldi had toned down the Scottishness slightly. He was much more Scottish on The Thick Of It (and like JB I keep waiting for him to turn into Mr Sweary),

Barnesm mumbles...

Posted August 26, 2014
Might I suggest this

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Aaron mumbles...

Posted August 26, 2014
Watched it last night. Pretty happy overall but again moffat who has great ideas seems to rely on blind luck for his characters yo escape rather than pulling the rug out with some clever sleight of doctor hand. But capaldi brings it so looking forward to it.

Lizard lesbians? Yeah why not

Paul_Nicholas_Boylan mumbles...

Posted August 26, 2014
There is something about lesbians in general that I've always considered a touch reptilian.

Not that there is anything wrong with it.

Blarkon swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted August 26, 2014
Not at all.

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Halwes ducks in to say...

Posted August 26, 2014

Gees in two days you've pissed off Maoris and lessos PNB. Let's hope you never run into a 16 stone Maori lesso. Although that would be an encounter I'd like to watch.

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Blarkon swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted August 26, 2014
Thought it was the weakest "new Doctor" episode since the reboot. Ultimately the show stands or falls on the writing and for every "Doctor's Wife" and "Blink" there's been a lot of chaff. They've got a great lead, but the question seems to be is anyone still able to come up with new material that leverages that to its fullest extent?

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Sudragon is gonna tell you...

Posted August 26, 2014
Interesting Fact: Capaldi has an Oscar.

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damian has opinions thus...

Posted August 26, 2014
I vaguely remember that when Colin Baker came in there was talk of a move to a "darker" doctor, though of course this did not happen. I suppose in the meantime they've done this with the John Hurt doctor, but Capaldi seems like the best opportunity for some morally ambivalent inner tension since Hartnell (who did that rather well, as I understand it).

It's sort of a pity there wasn't more than one telemovie with Paul McGann. Not that I'm saying it'd necessarily have been awesome or anything (it could, or it could flop badly... hypothetical alt history stuff there), just it could have provided some neat "improving" stories for the canon.

damian mumbles...

Posted August 26, 2014
I should say - one telemovie and one 5 minute teaser to introduce Hurt.

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Aaron swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted August 27, 2014
I liked the john hurt war weary doctor and wish they would go there more but they don't want to hurt their family friendly brand I guess.

I think some more writers with Moffat at head would make a lot more blink quality episodes.

I hope they do a spin off lizard lesbian chronicles.

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simongarlick swirls their brandy and claims...

Posted August 27, 2014
This episode existed for one reason – to reassure younger fans of New Who that it’s OK for the Doctor to be old. Clara gets upgraded from being a piece of the set to being an audience surrogate. Still not a character though.

The dinosaur out of its time, lost, all alone. “The world is grey, everything I knew is gone.” We get it.

The robot out of its time, repairing itself for millennia, all alone. Come on Moffat, we get it.

The broom speech. “There’s nothing of you left”. The face in the tray bit showing 12 his own face. Fuck Moff, give it a rest.

Vastra’s veil speech. “He’s old. The young face was just an act. If you can’t accept that he’s older, you are a shallow person.” Jenny to Clara. “I don’t just like her, I love her, even though she’s different.” If you are just “liking” him for his looks, you don’t really love him. MOFFAAATTTTTT

Clara: fucking everything in the whole episode. Oh, she’s only 27? Gee, thanks for that Strax, that line didn’t half stand out like dog’s bollocks. “Hey Doc, that’s not the only grey hair”, and just in case you haven’t been slapped in the face with it enough, here comes a call from Clara’s boyfriend so that Matt Smith can explain to the audience – I mean, Clara – that it’s OK for the Doctor to be old and grey.

The “Clara doesn’t understand regeneration and wants her young Doctor back” plot was inexplicable shit. She has more understanding of Time Lord regen than anyone! She spent time with three different Doctors of different ages simultaneously in the 50th, and thanks to the crap Impossible Girl crap story arc crap she’s the only companion to have personally encountered every different incarnation of the Doctor across 2,000 years. Shit. Fuck you Moffat, lazy writing.

Episode highpoints: Capaldi, “times like these I miss Amy”, eyebrows.
Episode lowpoints: everything else.


At a higher level this episode embodies something even more annoying – Moffatt’s twin tendencies to

a) regurgitate his own previous plots and storylines - S08E01 is basically S02E04 “The Girl In The Fireplace” (writer: Steven Moffatt) re-done to emphasis the Doctor's age. Clockwork robots in a broken time-traveling spaceship trying to harvest human bodyparts to perform repairs, the Doctor struck with the reality that he's ancient and immortal and personal relationships with humans just don't work; and

b) make the Doctor a timetraveling Sherlock Holmes. Moffatt is lead writer and showrunner of “Sherlock” and “Doctor Who” at the same time, and it shows. Not in a good way.

Dick asserts...

Posted August 27, 2014
Tell us what you really think, Simon. Stop holding back.

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JG mumbles...

Posted August 30, 2014
I like Capaldi as the new doctor.

The first Dr Who episode screened in November 1963 when I was five months old.

I have faint memories of watching Dr Who on black-and-white TV. Some memories of Jon Pertwee (and maybe the doctor before him), but Tom Baker (long scarf doctor) is the one I think I saw the most of, even though he annoyed me.

I remember that Catweazel used to screen right before Dr Who on TV. Both pretty scary shows for young children. I was terrified of the Daleks.

Not really a keen Dr Who fan, but I may start watching the odd show now again. I enjoyed the new series pilot with Capaldi. I saw him interviewed by Julie Z before it went to air, so I guess I already grew to like him before the show went to air. He's refreshing and kinda sexy.

JG

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